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Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders?

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Why do so many incompetent men become leaders? Article in the Harvard Business Review. Please discuss...
Primarily because leaders are the least useful people in an organization. They exist to cater to the peculiar human desire to see a face representing everything. The desire is so pervasive that they invent non-existent (and hence maximally incompetent) gods to be the ceo presiding over natural forces as well. :p
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
I have a problem with the premise that most managers fail or are poor. Management is often judged by those managed based upon how the managers does by them. From that perspective yes, most managers suck.

Much of a managers job is balancing the needs of those above him with the needs of his people... balance is probably the wrong word... carry out the orders of those over him while minimizing the anger and resentment of his employees. Often those given the title of "good managers" just have less stress from on high.

But there are a lot of terrible managers out there. But for every one of them there are a half dozen employees who complain incessantly about things beyond their bosses control.

As for women, I think there is a bit more to it than this. As responsibility levels rise, the term "maternity leave" becomes more and more problematic. I realize it isn't fair or reasonable. But the reality is that if you have a high level of responsibility, taking long term time off becomes a huge problem.

I suspect this also has a lot to do with the pay level differences. When a large percentage of women take off anywhere from months to often years to have children, it's hard to expect their pay to be equal. I am all for equal pay for equal work. But equal pay, regardless of the fact that I stayed on the job for 10 years while she took 3 maternity leaves.... seems more than a bit unfair too.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
A competent leader (manager) ensures that he passes answers upward, not problems.
he ensures that those below see the advantages in working as a team and not in competition for his favours.
A good manager rapidly organises himself out of a job, and moves on.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
That's cuz he's so uncommon.

Nahh, he couldn't even manage the Scottish leader and parliament.

and Has failed in the supreme court to get the parliaments decision overturned.
The money he through at it would have turned a few politicians in the USA

555,000 people have singned a petition to parliament to ban him from entering the Uk. More than enough to force a debate in parliament
He has now lost his honorary degree, and business ambassador post has been stripped by Nicole Sturgeon Scotlands first minister.
Does not sound so tough to me. Unless pissing people off is being tough.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Nahh, he couldn't even manage the Scottish leader and parliament.

and Has failed in the supreme court to get the parliaments decision overturned.
The money he through at it would have turned a few politicians in the USA
He has now lost his honorary degree, and business ambassador post has been stripped by Nicole Sturgeon Scotlands first minister.
Does not sound so tough to me. Unless pissing people off is being tough.
This is all above me pay grade.
I don't know Trump or Limey politics well enuf to keep up with you.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
"Most presidents of the US or UK prime ministers usually have about 10 years in office before they go crazy," Salmond, now the SNP's foreign affairs spokesman, told Russia Today on Sunday.

"Donald Trump has made it as a candidate."
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
"Most presidents of the US or UK prime ministers usually have about 10 years in office before they go crazy," Salmond, now the SNP's foreign affairs spokesman, told Russia Today on Sunday.

"Donald Trump has made it as a candidate."
They don't go crazy.
They already were that way.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You only have to look at their eyes after a few years in office.
Thatcher, Tony Blaire and George Bush and Ronald Reagan's eyes became wild.
I think I begin to see....
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