Why do some atheists have to be so insulting and mean?

[Shushersbedamned]

You know @Trailblazer in real life?

No.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

She didn’t really give any details on that side of things.

then why assume they were There?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

No.

So you aren’t actually “very familiar” with what she was describing.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

then why assume they were There?

I’m not assuming anything. I’m just pointing out one possible explanation that fits the facts we have so far.

Are you assuming that @Trailblazer wasn’t pushing her religion on people who didn’t want it?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Why do some atheists have to be so insulting and mean? I am a believer and I do not ever insult atheists; in fact I tell them their lack of belief is just as rational as my beliefs since nobody can prove there is a God. I never threaten them with hell because I do not even believe in hell.

But I constantly have to defend myself from being call brainwashed and stupid and having dumb arguments, just because I believe in God and have a religion that is different from Christianity, a religion they do not know how to refute. Nobody deserves to be treated this way.

If atheists want to say they need no God for morality then some of them are not doing a very good job of demonstrating that with their air of superiority, arrogance, and rude behavior, not to mention dishonesty, lack of self-awareness and unjust treatment of others.

I am not referring to any atheists in this forum. They have been more than civil and respectful and kind.

I am being called stupid but I am not stupid. I went to college for over 15 years and I have several degrees, two advanced. But I am called stupid because my degrees are not in science subjects, because I do not know a lot about history. So what? What is more important, how much one knows or how they treat their fellow man?

Online?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I know a lot of atheists and agnostics do so online. I dont know if being online gives them the right to be rude or not. In person, we, just dont care. I live with believers; so, I have no reason to be rude. If I am its unintentional and usually if not all the time it has nothing to do with religion.

But I constantly have to defend myself from being call brainwashed and stupid and having dumb arguments, just because I believe in God and have a religion that is different from Christianity, a religion they do not know how to refute. Nobody deserves to be treated this way.

I think, if you can, try to pick your debates. Your feelings are credited; you have that right to feel that way. Another way to think of it, if you are a god believer give it god. We cant control others but with god (or so have you) we control how we react and see others in the light of our faith moreso than feelings.

If atheists want to say they need no God for morality then some of them are not doing a very good job of demonstrating that with their air of superiority, arrogance, and rude behavior, not to mention dishonesty, lack of self-awareness and unjust treatment of others.

Depends. For example, it makes no sense for me to say I need no god. Thats like saying I dont need to believe Nothing to live a good life. Since god doesnt exist, what am I exactly not needing.

Some atheists online have that view you mentioned. Probably agnostic or atheist with a grudge.

I am not referring to any atheists in this forum. They have been more than civil and respectful and kind.

I think a lot of it is online in my opinion. Do you live around atheists?

I am being called stupid but I am not stupid. I went to college for over 15 years and I have several degrees, two advanced. But I am called stupid because my degrees are not in science subjects, because I do not know a lot about history. So what? What is more important, how much one knows or how they treat their fellow man?

Course youre not stupid (ignorant). I know youre venting. Those are my thoughts.

Dismiss the other post.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

No - in general. Anyone who starts on the personal insult path is on to a losing tactic, and it just sends the message that they failed to come up with more reasonable arguments. Ad hominem - the most basic fallacy.

But when you referred to 'not bothering with them' you did exactly that yourself.

 

[Mock Turtle]

But when you referred to 'not bothering with them' you did exactly that yourself.

I'm only human.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why do some atheists have to be so insulting and mean? I am a believer and I do not ever insult atheists; in fact I tell them their lack of belief is just as rational as my beliefs since nobody can prove there is a God. I never threaten them with hell because I do not even believe in hell.

But I constantly have to defend myself from being call brainwashed and stupid and having dumb arguments, just because I believe in God and have a religion that is different from Christianity, a religion they do not know how to refute. Nobody deserves to be treated this way.

If atheists want to say they need no God for morality then some of them are not doing a very good job of demonstrating that with their air of superiority, arrogance, and rude behavior, not to mention dishonesty, lack of self-awareness and unjust treatment of others.

I am not referring to any atheists in this forum. They have been more than civil and respectful and kind.

I am being called stupid but I am not stupid. I went to college for over 15 years and I have several degrees, two advanced. But I am called stupid because my degrees are not in science subjects, because I do not know a lot about history. So what? What is more important, how much one knows or how they treat their fellow man?

Atheists who are mean to theists, are also mean to fellow atheists.
Some people are just born mean.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm only human.

You look more like a macaque to me.

 

[Mock Turtle]

You look more like a capuchin to me.

Rhesus macaque actually.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

I’m not assuming anything. I’m just pointing out one possible explanation that fits the facts we have so far.

Are you assuming that @Trailblazer wasn’t pushing her religion on people who didn’t want it?

You weren't pointing out a possibility. You threw an accusation at the OP - rather rudely too.

 

[Polymath257]

Atheists are people too. They love, they hate, they work, they hope. And some of them are mean.

Just like some theists are mean. Some people are mean.

Now, mean atheists will denigrate theistic beliefs and say that theists are stupid. Mean theists will denigrate atheistic beliefs and say that atheists are stupid and immoral. Mean atheists will call ideas they don't agree with ignorant and superstitious. Mean theists will call ideas they disagree with immoral and a danger to society. mean atheists will compare God to garden gnomes. Mean theists will compare atheists to Satan.

Let's all try not to be mean, OK?

 

[Revoltingest]

Rhesus macaque actually.

I figured that out & edited the post.
Dang!
I might've gotten credit for perspicacity if'n I weren't so ignorant & slow!

 

[Revoltingest]

Atheists are people too. They love, they hate, they work, they hope. And some of them are mean.

Just like some theists are mean. Some people are mean.

Now, mean atheists will denigrate theistic beliefs and say that theists are stupid. Mean theists will denigrate atheistic beliefs and say that atheists are stupid and immoral. Mean atheists will call ideas they don't agree with ignorant and superstitious. Mean theists will call ideas they disagree with immoral and a danger to society. mean atheists will compare God to garden gnomes. Mean theists will compare atheists to Satan.

Let's all try not to be mean, OK?

The great Buckaroo Banzai said it best.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I figured that out & edited the post.
Dang!
I might've gotten credit for perspicacity if'n I weren't so ignorant & slow!

Me too.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Atheists are people too

careful ...

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You weren't pointing out a possibility.

I spoke to my own experience. I didn't say that my experience is exhaustive.

I can certainly imagine scenarios where someone was minding their own business and ended up in a heated theological duscussion with an atheist; I've just never seen it happen in real life.

You threw an accusation at the OP - rather rudely too.

I pointed out an area where the details she gave suggested a different picture than the one she was painting. Hopefully @Trailblazer will clarify.

Edit: if I'm being guarded and suspicious with @Trailblazer, it's because her OP started this thread in a pretty negative direction.

Do you understand how the OP could be taken as pretty rude itself?

 

[Shushersbedamned]

So you aren’t actually “very familiar” with what she was describing.

I'm talking about the post, not his curtains.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I spoke to my own experience. I didn't say that my experience is exhaustive.

I can certainly imagine scenarios where someone was minding their own business and ended up in a heated theological duscussion with an atheist; I've just never seen it happen in real life.


I pointed out an area where the details she gave suggested a different picture than the one she was painting. Hopefully @Trailblazer will clarify.

Edit: if I'm being guarded and suspicious with @Trailblazer, it's because her OP started this thread in a pretty negative direction.

Do you understand how the OP could be taken as pretty rude itself?

I think she was rather upset, and that should be taken into account.