Why do some scientists reject evolution?

[dust1n]

Creationism must really be suffering then, seeing as no one observed it...

You don't have to be stringent with God, but science must be put to very different, incredibly insane standards that God would never be subject to.

 

[WyattDerp]

But what is your evidence that mutations was random and not entended .

What is yours that it WAS intended?

This cannot be proven either way.

Can you understand that? Will you stop asking for evidence for something that cannot be proven, when nobody even claimed there is such evidence, and when no such evidence is needed for WHAT they actually claimed? Will you, in other words, ******* stop trolling... ?!

 

[FearGod]

Can the Qur'an or prayer?

we are talking about science.

It's random in the sense that there are so many factors into what damage might happen and where in your strand of DNA that happens, and how the mutation took place, because there isn't just one way.

is that evidence .

 

[dust1n]

But what is your evidence that mutations was random and not entended .

What, what's my evidence that mutations are random and not intended by God? I don't know, where's your evidence that you are talking right now and not God? :sarcastic

I don't get what you are trying to get at here. Are you trying to say that genetic mutations over millions of years is what Allah intended for it to be and its not random, or that evolution doesn't happen?

 

[FearGod]

What is yours that it WAS intended?

This cannot be proven either way.

Can you understand that? Will you stop asking for evidence for something that cannot be proven, when nobody even claimed there is such evidence, and when no such evidence is needed for WHAT they actually claimed? Will you, in other words, ******* stop trolling... ?!

Asking for evidence is trolling .

 

[dust1n]

we are talking about science.

You asked geology could predict and earthquake? That's the criteria you have for determining legitimacy in science, but not... your own religion?

So I ask, can the Qur'an or prayer predict an earthquake?

is that evidence .

No. I'm trying to clear up your misunderstanding about what is meant about random mutation. Whether mutations are random or not really doesn't have to do with whether evolution is true or not.

 

[Iti oj]

even if mutations were not random and controlled by god evolution would still be true.

this is not a debate about god, thus you have no point,

also points are being ignored.

 

[FearGod]

You asked geology could predict and earthquake? That's the criteria you have for determining legitimacy in science, but not... your own religion?

So I ask, can the Qur'an or prayer predict an earthquake?

Quran and prayers has nothing to do with science.

No. I'm trying to clear up your misunderstanding about what is meant about random mutation. Whether mutations are random or not really doesn't have to do with whether evolution is true or not.

i am talking about mutations and not evolution.

i agree evolution is true,but my question is :
what is your evidence that mutations was random and not programmed or intended ones.

 

[FearGod]

even if mutations were not random and controlled by god evolution would still be true.

this is not a debate about god, thus you have no point,

also points are being ignored.

i don't have problem to understand a programmed evolution.

 

[WyattDerp]

Asking for evidence is trolling .

The way you just misquoted me, wtf is that? How do you call that? Dishonesty? Stupidity?

I said you're asking for evidence for something

a.) that can't be proven
b.) which you haven't proven to be otherwise either
c.) nobody but you claimed CAN even be proven
d.) isn't necessary to be proven to understand the process of evolution, and that it's actually going on

and doing that repeatedly is trolling, yes. It surely is spam. You just keep ignoring all responses you don't like, twist the rest, and ask non-sequitur questions. It's childish and intellectually dishonest.

 

[Iti oj]

wether or not mutation is designed or random is a meaningless difference
in regards to evidence i would suggest appearance and the amount of "failed" and "bad" mutations.

 

[Iti oj]

for example the human back bone while it supports our bipedal locomotion its not optimally designed and has several defects and cause many health issues. had the mutations been designed then we would be curved differently.

 

[FearGod]

wether or not mutation is designed or random is a meaningless difference
in regards to evidence i would suggest appearance and the amount of "failed" and "bad" mutations.

What do you mean by appearance

Bad mutations aren't evidence because it can be for both sides.

 

[Iti oj]

What do you mean by appearance

Bad mutations aren't evidence because it can be for both sides.

who would design bad mutations?
also look at my spine argument.

 

[Muslimman]

for example the human back bone while it supports our bipedal locomotion its not optimally designed and has several defects and cause many health issues. had the mutations been designed then we would be curved differently.

Who told you that, Dawkins :areyoucra

You are defending atheism or evolution here ?

 

[Iti oj]

Who told you that, Dawkins :areyoucra

probably, but Ive looked into. from and engineering and physics point of view its true.

 

[SkepticThinker]

And why to make assertions of it to be random mutations and not to be intended ones.

What?

Can you tell me by science of geology that tomorrow at 13:55 am an earthquake will strike NY city with scale of 8 .

Why would you expect such a prediction? What does that have to do with evolution and genetics????

So when it'll happen and why it happened at one specific time,is't a random or intended one.

I have no idea what you're saying.

This is how scientists can indicate where genetic changes occurred: By mapping and studying the genomes of various species and comparing them with each other. “Comparative genomics also provides a powerful tool for studying evolutionary changes among organisms, helping to identify genes that are conserved among species, as well as genes that give each organism its unique characteristics.”
http://www.genome.gov/11509542

That is the point,do you have any evidence that it was random mutation and not intended or programmed ones.

Now you're changing the point? You asked me “How can you observe the tiny changes that have to occur through millions of years.” I answered that for you. I even provided a website for you which outlines how this is done. You should give it a read and inform yourself. Lest you’d want me to believe that you are being willfully ignorant.

Now you want to move the goal posts?

if you have an evidence that it was randomness then i am all ears.

Well, this was an exercise in intellectual dishonesty if I ever saw one.

Sorry, you don’t get to change the criteria now. Address what I said, please.

 

[FearGod]

who would design bad mutations?
also look at my spine argument.

Please quote your reference about the scientific research about the bad design of human back bone.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Who told you that, Dawkins :areyoucra

You are defending atheism or evolution here ?

????
Dawkins is a biologist.

 

[Muslimman]

Please quote your reference about the scientific research about the bad design of human back bone.

I am interested to know what dawkins told them this time

What i find really interesting is that some online persons follow him like that