Why do the laws of physics exist?

[The Sum of Awe]

Why are things the way they are? Why does gravity exist? Why do gravitons act in the way they do? Why is time relative? Why does an object in motion stay in motion? Why can't something come from nothing? etc. etc.

Somewhere down the line, far beyond what we know, there has to be something completely random and chaotic, something that just happened to exist.

I would, personally, assume it's of another world, something that doesn't abide physical laws and therefore is not physical. It'd be something more perfect than the imperfect, limited physical world.

Which is why I believe in an all pervading force connecting the physical world from boundaries technically outside it. But this connection between the two is so strong that they literally become each other.

To me, it'd save a lot of time with "Why does this other world just so happen to exist?", to say the other world is void, emptiness, the lack of. This force is chaotic in its own nature, but is incarnated physically as the universe. The body of God is limited, but the spirit of God is unpredictable.

 

[Desert Snake]

Ehm real answer? Cause it's the natural laws of the observable universe, that's why mars isn't so different from earth, the planets follow the same rules/seems that way at least/ they only differ in the chemical & biological makeup. If you had a spacesuit that could "handle" the conditions you could walk around on any solid surface planet, given the gravity factor, we can guess at that

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Ehm real answer? Cause it's the natural laws of the observable universe, that's why mars isn't so different from earth, the planets follow the same rules/seems that way at least/ they only differ in the chemical & biological makeup. If you had a spacesuit that could "handle" the conditions you could walk around on any solid surface planet, given the gravity factor, we can guess at that

Yes, but why?

 

[Desert Snake]

Yes, but why?

Good question.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Good question.

Not sure if that was sarcasm or truth

 

[Desert Snake]

Not sure if that was sarcasm or truth

Lol truth.

 

[Awkward Fingers]

My guess?
...because they do...
The laws are just functions of matter and energy, and how they react to each other.
If they reacted differently, we would have a different universe, which might or might not support the chance for life, and if it did, the laws could be completely different, and some otherly adapted creature could be asking the exact same thing you are now.

 

[Thana]

Awesome question.

I figure it's because it makes it all work, Everything is the way it is so that we can have this life, This world, and these thoughts

 

[Willamena]

Somewhere down the line, far beyond what we know, there has to be something completely random and chaotic, something that just happened to exist.

I would, personally, assume it's of another world, something that doesn't abide physical laws and therefore is not physical. It'd be something more perfect than the imperfect, limited physical world.

Which is why I believe in an all pervading force connecting the physical world from boundaries technically outside it. But this connection between the two is so strong that they literally become each other.

What if I told you it need be nothing more mysterious than your own mind, here and now. I know that a superbeing beyond the world is more glamorous, but at least you know your own mind.

To me, it'd save a lot of time with "Why does this other world just so happen to exist?", to say the other world is void, emptiness, the lack of. This force is chaotic in its own nature, but is incarnated physically as the universe. The body of God is limited, but the spirit of God is unpredictable.

See, even the English language works against this idea. "Lacking" the other world generally implies its negation (not the other world).

 

[Willamena]

Some past thoughts on the matter.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/936066-post32.html

 

[idav]

To me, it'd save a lot of time with "Why does this other world just so happen to exist?", to say the other world is void, emptiness, the lack of. This force is chaotic in its own nature, but is incarnated physically as the universe. The body of God is limited, but the spirit of God is unpredictable.

That "limited" aspect of the physical is made up of that chaotic aspect that resides outside of space. At the micro level it full of energy with electrons jumping space etc.

Pretty good why is that we are an art expression of god, the universe a painting already finished for all its time. Wouldn't hurt an eternal being to actually try and be something.

 

[Quintessence]

Things are the way they are because it is the only way they can be by virtue of their intrinsic nature/properties/essence/soul/spirit.

 

[fantome profane]

Things are the way they are because if they were different it wouldn't be the same.

The laws of physics are really nothing more than descriptions of what we observe. They are not divine ordinances, there are no inter-dimensional policemen handing out tickets for exceeding the speed of light, no one telling the rocks that they are not allowed to float like balloons. There is just observation, and description of observation.

 

[brokensymmetry]

Why are things the way they are? Why does gravity exist? Why do gravitons act in the way they do? Why is time relative? Why does an object in motion stay in motion? Why can't something come from nothing? etc. etc.

Somewhere down the line, far beyond what we know, there has to be something completely random and chaotic, something that just happened to exist.

I would, personally, assume it's of another world, something that doesn't abide physical laws and therefore is not physical. It'd be something more perfect than the imperfect, limited physical world.

Which is why I believe in an all pervading force connecting the physical world from boundaries technically outside it. But this connection between the two is so strong that they literally become each other.

To me, it'd save a lot of time with "Why does this other world just so happen to exist?", to say the other world is void, emptiness, the lack of. This force is chaotic in its own nature, but is incarnated physically as the universe. The body of God is limited, but the spirit of God is unpredictable.

Ultimately, I suspect, there is some physical relation that describes the properties and interactions of the most fundamental physical stuff. I suspect this because the more we learn about the physical world this is the trend. I suspect this physical relation is just as 'brute fact' as the stuff it describes interacting, and the two, the physical substance and the rule, go hand in hand somehow. This is how I always envisioned it, but that may be pure fantasy and wishful thinking on my part also.

 

[Gehennaite]

I've always been curious as to why life can only develop on planets like Earth. Why is it that laws don't include planets like Jupiter into the mix? I could imagine a race of sentient beings ascending from the rich elements of Jupiter, yet according to all the universal constraints imposed upon us - it is evidently impossible.

I don't understand why possibilities are so extremely limited in a supposedly evolutionary reality...

 

[1137]

I've always been curious as to why life can only develop on planets like Earth. Why is it that laws don't include planets like Jupiter into the mix? I could imagine a race of sentient beings ascending from the rich elements of Jupiter, yet according to all the universal constraints imposed upon us - it is evidently impossible.

I don't understand why possibilities are so extremely limited in a supposedly evolutionary reality...

Who says life can't evolved on a gas giant like Jupiter? We couldn't possibly claim that, only that life as we know it can't.

 

[kashmir]

Who says life can't evolved on a gas giant like Jupiter? We couldn't possibly claim that, only that life as we know it can't.

exactly, there could be "life" on all kinds of planets, scientists even say, what ever life could and is existing on Mars, we may never know, because we don't know what to look for.

pretty sure they dont even know what Jupiter is all about, we cant see past the outer gasses.
Its all speculation from what they know to be true on earth with those gasses.
Never the less, they are prob right, kick *** science, for their ability to determine it as is.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Why are things the way they are? Why does gravity exist? Why do gravitons act in the way they do? Why is time relative? Why does an object in motion stay in motion? Why can't something come from nothing? etc. etc.

We perceive that they are, but we don't really know. To us they are repeatable observations consistent without our own frame of reference but maybe not outside of it. All answers to your question would be guesses.

 

[Tumah]

Things are the way they are because if they were different it wouldn't be the same.

The laws of physics are really nothing more than descriptions of what we observe. They are not divine ordinances, there are no inter-dimensional policemen handing out tickets for exceeding the speed of light, no one telling the rocks that they are not allowed to float like balloons. There is just observation, and description of observation.

That doesn't really take care of the question, it just moves it a step backwards:

Why do all observable entities seem to act along a certain set of rules?

 

[1137]

That doesn't really take care of the question, it just moves it a step backwards:

Why do all observable entities seem to act along a certain set of rules?

Because?