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Why do we know so little about Jesus?

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Dude
The Bible says that Jesus denied he is God
Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19)

And he said to him, ‘Why are you asking me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.’ (Matthew 19:17)

In the Hebrew scriptures, the ‘son of man’ is also used many times speaking of people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17; 144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6-8; 3:1-3).


Look Jesus was showing that man, that No man is Good or Perfect on earth, therefore only God is good and Perfect and deserves only the right to be called Good and Perfect.

Did you even bother to notice when speaking about the Son of man.

That the ( son ) is a lower case ( s ) indicating a person of a much lesser standard.
Unlike Christ Jesus has the Son of God
Which is has a higher case ( S ) indicating a person of a much Higher Standard.

Therefore upon reading the Bible watch for these things.
Like in the bible you will come across
god which has a lower case ( g ) than the Almighty God , which has a Higher case
( G ) which indicates a much Higher God. And not a lower case ( g ) which indicates a god trying to be the big ( G ) Almighty God.
 

proudpagan

Member
Look Jesus was showing that man, that No man is Good or Perfect on earth, therefore only God is good and Perfect and deserves only the right to be called Good and Perfect.

Did you even bother to notice when speaking about the Son of man.

That the ( son ) is a lower case ( s ) indicating a person of a much lesser standard.
Unlike Christ Jesus has the Son of God
Which is has a higher case ( S ) indicating a person of a much Higher Standard.

Therefore upon reading the Bible watch for these things.
Like in the bible you will come across
god which has a lower case ( g ) than the Almighty God , which has a Higher case
( G ) which indicates a much Higher God. And not a lower case ( g ) which indicates a god trying to be the big ( G ) Almighty God.
‘My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28)
‘The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him.’ (John 4:23)

All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, “Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God.” The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many of his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’.

Also the virgin birth is disputed. The Hebrew word is ALMAH (al-mah) and it is used 7 times in the Bible. Strictly speaking, it means young woman but depending on the Bible that you are using, it is translated as virgin, maiden and damsel, as well. There is another Hebrew word which is specifically translated as virgin. It is BETHULAH (be-too-lah) and it appears in the Bible 50 times. 38 times it is translated as virgin while the other 12 are spread out over the words maid and maiden.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Why do people know so little about Jesus?

Because alot of people have little knowledge if not none at all what the Bible actually does say on the subject about Jesus.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Why do we know so little about Jesus.

That's quite simple. Because people are not taught the Truth of Scriptures. That's why people know so little about Jesus.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
‘My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28)
‘The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him.’ (John 4:23)

All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, “Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God.” The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many of his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’.

Also the virgin birth is disputed. The Hebrew word is ALMAH (al-mah) and it is used 7 times in the Bible. Strictly speaking, it means young woman but depending on the Bible that you are using, it is translated as virgin, maiden and damsel, as well. There is another Hebrew word which is specifically translated as virgin. It is BETHULAH (be-too-lah) and it appears in the Bible 50 times. 38 times it is translated as virgin while the other 12 are spread out over the words maid and maiden.

Who else wrote the scriptures besides Israel?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I personally believe that every event, every word of the life of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has been recorded and some near death experiencers have been shown about parts of his life that were unknown until now:

Could Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus really have said this?

Your Right about what you say.

Jesus Yeshua, said many times, that he did not come to bring Glory unto himself, but Glory unto the Father.

Therefore the whole life of Jesus Yeshua has little meaning only those things that are Written is all that is needful .
Jesus Yeshua came not of himself, But the Father who sent Jesus Yeshua to draw all men unto the Father, That is what's needful.
 

DennisTate

Active Member
Your Right about what you say.

Jesus Yeshua, said many times, that he did not come to bring Glory unto himself, but Glory unto the Father.

Therefore the whole life of Jesus Yeshua has little meaning only those things that are Written is all that is needful .
Jesus Yeshua came not of himself, But the Father who sent Jesus Yeshua to draw all men unto the Father, That is what's needful.

But I do believe that all that happened has been recorded and is being revealed ......
especially in these latter days.

Don Brubaker's Near-Death Experience


"You will tell others about me, Don," the voice of God said, out of nowhere. "That is your mission. That is why you are going through these experiences."

I listened patiently.

"You must learn to love others, to have compassion and to forgive them. You must live that others may see me in you."

In a flash, I could recall every person I had ever held a grudge against, every quarrel I had ever left unresolved.

Suddenly I am enveloped and floating in a deep, electric blue sky. It is the most amazing and beautiful blue I have ever seen. It feels velvety soft. The air seems to sparkle with purity. I am at peace, feeling restful, serene.

I perceived a light moving toward me. It is bluish white and gives off small yellow flashes and sparks at the edges, growing in intensity until it is almost too intense to look into.

And there is a figure in the middle of the light. My very being leaps in recognition that this is Jesus Christ. It's Christ coming toward me. I gaze at his extraordinarily handsome face. The eyes are full of love and acceptance. I am immersed in a feeling of joy and hope and all good things.

Christ's voice rings gently, like the sound of tiny, pleasant silver bells.

"Don, do you want to stay here, or do you wish to go back?"

I hesitated to answer. I am wrapped in a warm sense of love and peace. The color is such a pleasure to see and feel. And Jesus indicates no impatience.

I realize that I am grinning like a little boy getting his first puppy.

I am seeing God's own Son. This is the Lord. This is Jesus!

Suddenly, a soft sense of sadness creeps into my thoughts. I think of my dear family. I can sense the sorrow they would feel if I were gone. I know I must go back to them, that I have work to do.

I wonder about that. It was God who gave me my mission. Why, then, if God wants me to minister to others, is Jesus offering me an opportunity to stay here in heaven?

The answer surfaced from my own thoughts. This is a test. Again, Christ speaks: "Don, do you want to stay or go back?"

"I want to go back," I answered immediately, knowing I made the right choice.

Jesus smiles.

"You have chosen well. Go. I am with you," Jesus says gently.

Everything changes again, as if someone has turned a page in a book. I see myself in the midst of a huge crowd. It's not a modern crowd. They are dressed in the clothes of Bible times. I look down at myself. So am I!

The crowd seems to be jeering at me. Why? Then I see more: I help a man, someone who has been brutally whipped and abused. The crowd is upset because I am offering assistance. But the beaten man has eyes that burn with love and compassion.

How could anyone want to hurt this man? I lift the man off of the dusty road to his feet.

The man turns, and from somewhere he lifts a huge wooden cross to his back. The man begins moving toward a hill. The hill is called Golgotha. With each new moment, I realize more and more clearly what I am seeing.

These people are going to crucify Christ.

I follow, stunned, I watch in horror as Jesus is nailed to the cross, the spikes pounded through his wrists and the sensitive insteps of his feet. I watch helpless as the cross is propped up and dropped into position with an ugly thud. I cover my face with my hands.

If only others could see what I've seen. The world would get on its knees ... The world would be at peace.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Hi, Terry. I don't know why I didn't notice this thread when you first started it, but I'm glad it was resurrected and hope it will turn into a good discussion. I'm going to assume that most of the questions you asked were basically rhetorical in nature and that you weren't expecting to see each one of them actually addressed. If I'm wrong, and you were looking for specific responses to each of them (especially to those in your section about what Jesus did not specifically teach), please tell me and I'll be happy to give you my input on each one individually.

I do believe that Jesus left us with all that we need to know to be a Christian, as He never used the word "Christian" himself but did point out that men would be able to recognize His followers by the love they demonstrated for one another. If a person professes a belief in Jesus Christ, a conviction that He is what He professed to be (i.e. "the way, the truth and the life"), and demonstrates a desire to live in accordance to how Christ told us to live, I would call that person a Christian. All of those things, those "requirements" are found in the Bible, in the words Jesus left us and in the way He lived His life.

On the other hand, I definitely don't believe that everything He taught His disciples found its way into the Bible. I strongly suspect that He taught them the answers to the questions you raised, and that the people who actually heard Him talk knew exactly what His position was on those very issues. They are important issues, not because a person can't be a Christian without understanding them, but because they help us to comprehend God's plan more fully. Of course I personally believe that these things are important enough that God has restored to us what was lost for so long and that He continues to provide further knowledge as we are ready to receive it. I believe that our Father in Heaven foresaw the loss of knowledge that would accompany His Son's death and planned the restitution of all things when the time was right.

Hi Karhryn
You are right I did not expect individual answers to the questions I put. But I knew that the more literal minded would give answers any way.
This thread took an age to get going, and I had forgotten about it when a few posts showed up.
I wrote the Op as much as an exercise, as I did to find answers for my self.
My hope was that it provoke a few people to start thinking for themselves.

The posts I have read so far are little surprise, as they reflect the faiths of the individuals fairly well.
Though few are liberal enough to think out of the box.

I am happy that some people have given it any thought at all.

Of course there are published answers for ever question I put, many of them contradictory.
So I am very pleased that some have answered for them selves.

Your post was exactly what I have come to expect from you, and was very welcome.
 
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