Why do you accept Jesus as Messiah?

[ppp]

Like I said, we have two and three people looking at the same information, data and history and coming to two different conclusion.

I have no problem that you have a different conclusion.

I'm not sure not as strictly true. I doubt that you have a huge problem with it. But you do tend to lob in the occasional poison pill. Stating and sometimes implying that my disagreement with you is merely borne out of my wayward passions.

 

[Kenny]

I'm not sure not as strictly true. I doubt that you have a huge problem with it. But you do tend to lob in the occasional poison pill. Stating and sometimes implying that my disagreement with you is merely borne out of my wayward passions.

you do sometimes give it a hue

 

[ppp]

you do sometimes give it a hue

Hue? I don't recognize the reference...

 

[Muffled]

What made you believe in Christ? No one has met Him. All we have are reported, unverified Biblical records of His earthly ministry. We cannot prove the authenticity of those records.

So what made you a devout Christian? Something you believe Jesus said or taught? How do we know what Jesus actually said when we have no written words in His handwriting? How do you authentic that Jesus spoke those words in the Gospels as He didn’t confirm His sayings in writing anywhere?

So are Christians believing in Jesus on ‘reported’ sayings and here say? If you believe in the Bible, how do you know it’s true? Evidence? Or do you just trust that it is from God and that’s that?

I believe it was when I asked God to be Lord. The Holy Spirit brought to mind that it was Jesus also. This meant that the words of Jesus were as trustworthy as the words of God and Jesus said that He is the Messiah.

 

[Muffled]

Mainly I believe in Christ because unlike in the case of Christ there is loads of evidence for Baha'u'llah, and He affirmed it so.

None of the categories in your questionnaire apply to me and I'm sure there are others who are not Baha'is that are in the same boat.

I believe as a religious philosopher he can't be wrong all the time.

 

[Muffled]

OK, then this is only for Xians? Shoulda said so in the title!

I believe theri are Jews who believe He's the Messiah but other Jews don't consider them Jews anymore. I am not sure about Muslims. People from other religions can have opinions based on what they have read.

 

[alypius]

Do I accept that there was a Troy? Yes. That there was a Trojan War. Yes. Several. That the goddess Athena roamed the battle fields of one of them? No.

Aren't the Iliad and the Gospels different forms of writing?

 

[alypius]

Civil war records will be supported by objective evidence, death certificates, records of recruits, training, battles, etc etc etc.

Wouldn't records of those battles rely on the authorial activity of the writer?

 

[ppp]

Aren't the Iliad and the Gospels different forms of writing?

Relevance?

 

[alypius]

Relevance?

Isn't it important whether the Iliad's form of writing intends to claim something about the past, compared with the Gospels?

 

[rational experiences]

I'm a human. My baby life nearly died. I lived a life of being healthy sick in pain healed lived on surviving. The same lived condition. Constant.

I'm intelligent. I'm not indoctrinated.

I knew it wasn't a one man status I don't self idolise.

I read a book it says don't self idolise.

All I see is self idolators.

Yep it's real it's why life gets sacrificed and hurt. Family unity non existent.

I didn't believe in Jesus the term. I believed in the teaching which is a different determined correct one s of thinker.

Do not believe in my path don't follow me he taught. I didn't want a following.

Yet you did. The book said so. Yet lots of men told I was bodily hurt too.

As the temple circuit turned in Bethlehem old pyramid science had used it too.

Why a wandering star was linked precisely to causes of precise earth sciences.

As history told you.

Now it can be anywhere.

 

[ppp]

Isn't it important whether the Iliad's form of writing intends to claim something about the past, compared with the Gospels?

The Iliad does claim something about the past. I hope that you don't think that other religions, from both before and after Christianity, were different from Christianity in that way.

 

[alypius]

The Iliad does claim something about the past. I hope that you don't think that other religions, from both before and after Christianity, were different from Christianity in that way.

What does the Iliad claim about the past?

 

[ppp]

What does the Iliad claim about the past?

That the Trojan War happened. That there were apples of discord. That Athena walked the battle field. That Odysseus was know for his eloquence. And so very much more.

Have you never read it?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What made you believe in Christ? No one has met Him. All we have are reported, unverified Biblical records of His earthly ministry. We cannot prove the authenticity of those records.

So what made you a devout Christian? Something you believe Jesus said or taught? How do we know what Jesus actually said when we have no written words in His handwriting? How do you authentic that Jesus spoke those words in the Gospels as He didn’t confirm His sayings in writing anywhere?

So are Christians believing in Jesus on ‘reported’ sayings and here say? If you believe in the Bible, how do you know it’s true? Evidence? Or do you just trust that it is from God and that’s that?

Because He has revealed Himself to me, and it makes the most sense to me.