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Why do you believe The Bible is the literal "word of God?"

tomspug

Absorbant
I have yet to be let down by the Bible. Every time I look for answers, I find a 100% satisfactory one in it. It's easier to have faith in a constant God when the "Word of God", a real, touchable thing, is also constant.

It is my belief that the more you read the Bible, the more clarity you have in your faith. At least, this has been my experience. So I would perhaps ask, "why do you believe the Bible ISN'T the literal Word of God?"
 

science_is_my_god

Philosophical Monist
I have yet to be let down by the Bible. Every time I look for answers, I find a 100% satisfactory one in it. It's easier to have faith in a constant God when the "Word of God", a real, touchable thing, is also constant.

It is my belief that the more you read the Bible, the more clarity you have in your faith. At least, this has been my experience. So I would perhaps ask, "why do you believe the Bible ISN'T the literal Word of God?"
Sure, I find "comfort" and "answers" in a Dr. Suess book. They all have the "moral at the end of the story," but does this mean it should be taken with a literal interpratation? And, to answer your question, the reason I don't take the "Word of God" seriously is because I didn't see any of the events take place, and, over the course of 2,000 years, any story gets its facts twisted.
 

tomspug

Absorbant
Sure, I find "comfort" and "answers" in a Dr. Suess book. They all have the "moral at the end of the story," but does this mean it should be taken with a literal interpratation? And, to answer your question, the reason I don't take the "Word of God" seriously is because I didn't see any of the events take place, and, over the course of 2,000 years, any story gets its facts twisted.
Most of the Bible isn't narrative, in case you haven't read it. So even if the history is off, it's by human error and not God's. Most of it IS about "the moral of the story", or rather "the nature of the relationship between man and God". Besides, 2,000 years is one thing, but how about under 100 years? That's how close we are to the authorship of the New Testament in terms of manuscript documentation.

Most scholars don't debate the accuracy of the overall history of the Bible, but they do debate the "accurate details" like numbers, locations (whether or not they existed), and individual events.

There is practically no debate over whether or not Jesus was crucified. But it is debated whether or not he performed miracles and was raised from the dead. (I'm just giving an example of the kind of 'debate' there is over literal truth.)
 

science_is_my_god

Philosophical Monist
Actually, there are plenty of arguements historians make that claims that Jesus never really died at all, that the vinegar he was forced to drink was a form af anesthetic, and he was removed from the cross unconscious, not dead. That would be a good plan his followers could have done. Not only would that save his life, but also create the illusion of being "ressurected." And yes, the Bible is constantly narrative, the freaking disciples are the narrators!!! I have read both the new and old testaments several times. I used to be Catholic, but "god" blessed me with the logic to rule out his existence. Go ahead, quiz me on the "Word of God" if you want.
 

tomspug

Absorbant
Actually, there are plenty of arguements historians make that claims that Jesus never really died at all, that the vinegar he was forced to drink was a form af anesthetic, and he was removed from the cross unconscious, not dead. That would be a good plan his followers could have done. Not only would that save his life, but also create the illusion of being "ressurected." And yes, the Bible is constantly narrative, the freaking disciples are the narrators!!! I have read both the new and old testaments several times. I used to be Catholic, but "god" blessed me with the logic to rule out his existence. Go ahead, quiz me on the "Word of God" if you want.
Sure, people can believe whatever they want. That doesn't mean are anything other than a 'minority'. REAL historians use the same principles to analyze history as a whole. They don't give Christianity any special scrutiny and skepticism.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Actually, there are plenty of arguements historians make that claims that Jesus never really died at all, that the vinegar he was forced to drink was a form af anesthetic, and he was removed from the cross unconscious, not dead. That would be a good plan his followers could have done. Not only would that save his life, but also create the illusion of being "ressurected." And yes, the Bible is constantly narrative, the freaking disciples are the narrators!!! I have read both the new and old testaments several times. I used to be Catholic, but "god" blessed me with the logic to rule out his existence. Go ahead, quiz me on the "Word of God" if you want.

Why are you so angry?..Dont believe in God..and be at peace with it..Since you are so convinced you should be relieved..

Love

Dallas
 

science_is_my_god

Philosophical Monist
Sure, people can believe whatever they want. That doesn't mean are anything other than a 'minority'. REAL historians use the same principles to analyze history as a whole. They don't give Christianity any special scrutiny and skepticism.
Sure, you can believe what you want, if you don't want to believe in gravity, that's fine, but don't expect to fly when you leap from a cliff. And yes, to find the validity of a claim one MUST look at the claim in a critcal way, because the human mind is flawed, and ANY claim made has the potential to be incorrect. After all, "skepticism" is just part of our free will, yes?
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Jesus told parables, I am not denying that. What happened with Jesus wasn't a parable.
If someone writes a biography and the hero of that book tells a story to his children or something, that doesn't make the whole book a work of stories. Just the same, even though Jesus told parables, it doesn't mean the the whole of the story is a parable.
 

science_is_my_god

Philosophical Monist
I'm not stating the fact that the entire word of god is false, I am simply implying that even if parts of it are even slightly untrue that makes it an unreliable source of information.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Jesus told parables, I am not denying that. What happened with Jesus wasn't a parable.
If someone writes a biography and the hero of that book tells a story to his children or something, that doesn't make the whole book a work of stories. Just the same, even though Jesus told parables, it doesn't mean the the whole of the story is a parable.

I agree...He existed (first of all) IMHO..and He was crucified..and as He walked He talked..He spoke in parables so people could understand better..And I think he impressed quite a few people..

Love

Dallas
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I'm not stating the fact that the entire word of god is false, I am simply implying that even if parts of it are even slightly untrue that makes it an unreliable source of information.

I am very sorry! I wasn't responding to what you said but with some others were saying. :(
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I'm not stating the fact that the entire word of god is false, I am simply implying that even if parts of it are even slightly untrue that makes it an unreliable source of information.

No it doesnt for me...thats what my brain is for ...which my heart pumps blood to..

Love

Dallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Are you implying that even if bits and pieces of the Bible are untrue, you would still credit it as being reliable?

Yes thats my implication..Even though Im not saying parts and peices are "untrue"..Im saying they don't apply to my life..And life has changed..But there are many wisdoms to be found in the Bible..Many "truths"..

Its in fact personal interpretation..For me..The world is chaotic..Nothing is cookie cutter..(and I've baked quite a few cookies) :)

Love

Dallas
 

science_is_my_god

Philosophical Monist
Yes thats my implication..Even though Im not saying parts and peices are "untrue"..Im saying they don't apply to my life..And life has changed..But there are many wisdoms to be found in the Bible..Many "truths"..

Its in fact personal interpretation..For me..The world is chaotic..Nothing is cookie cutter..(and I've baked quite a few cookies) :)

Love

Dallas
Well my "personal interpretation" is that it has a few words of wisdom, but on the most part, it's gibberish. The most of it "doesn't apply to my life" either. Exactly my point.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Aw, I'm also sorry! I thought you were responding to my comments. I guess the world doesn't revolve around me after all.:D

I sometimes forget that not everyone knows the context of what I am responding to or the fact that many people respond while I am writing out a response. I forgot to use a quote from the ones I was responding to. :)
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I think that every one who reads the books of the Bible are going to get different ideas as to what it means. It is also true that a verse taken out of context may convey a different meaning it kept in context.
My ideas are derived from the fact that when Jesus taught the people, he spoke in parables. He spoke in symbolism a lot of the time when teaching. Sort of like Aesop's fables.
 
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