Why do you hate Trump\ Why do you hate Hillary?

[Estro Felino]

I've seen that 2017 and 2018 were 2 years where the POTUS has been vilified behind measure (now the last episode of Family Guy was really disgusting)....and I wonder: why do people hate him so much?
I mean...people's antipathy for him has the most various sources...but most of them are unreasonable and childish...like Russophobic idiocies and things like "he's a women-obsessed pig".

I admit I hate Hillary's guts and she disgust me as woman, as politician and as lawyer (being a jurist myself). But my hatred is REALLY justified: she's behind Benghazi murder and that mess unleashed the destruction of Libya, which caused enormous economic losses for my country and a migration crisis that overwhelmed all Southern Europe.
Besides two district attorneys in Sicily discovered horrendous and shocking dossiers that link Hillary's foundation to criminal organizations investigated for human trafficking.
All this took place when the Kenyan guy was POTUS

 

[Twilight Hue]

A politician's personal life I don't care about. What makes me 'hate' or 'love' any politician is their policy-making. Trump is crass and boisterous, doesn't carry presidential demeanor in a traditional sense, but he's pretty much put through some good policies that we sorely needed as a country such as Healthcare reform (a work in progress), international trade and the issue with illegals. He's pretty much kept a lot of his promises with some exceptions of course such as his personal taxes of which I said before I don't care about a politician's personal life.

I do like Hillary as a person and a fellow countrywoman as well as Obama and Bill Clinton, but I hate their policy-making in terms that they have a tendency to create many policies that favors one set of group of people at the expense of another creating more division and problems than is necessary. I think their objectives are far too socialist and far too left for a Democratic Republic and a first world free country.

 

[Sunstone]

I've seen that 2017 and 2018 were 2 years where the POTUS has been vilified behind measure (now the last episode of Family Guy was really disgusting)....and I wonder: why do people hate him so much?
I mean...people's antipathy for him has the most various sources...but most of them are unreasonable and childish...like Russophobic idiocies and things like "he's a women-obsessed pig".

I admit I hate Hillary's guts and she disgust me as woman, as politician and as lawyer (being a jurist myself). But my hatred is REALLY justified: she's behind Benghazi murder and that mess unleashed the destruction of Libya, which caused enormous economic losses for my country and a migration crisis that overwhelmed all Southern Europe.
Besides two district attorneys in Sicily discovered horrendous and shocking dossiers that link Hillary's foundation to criminal organizations investigated for human trafficking.
All this took place when the Kenyan guy was POTUS

Are you seriously trying to suggest you're in touch with reality when it comes to Clinton or Obama?

 

[Estro Felino]

but he's pretty much put through some good policies that we sorely needed as a country such as Healthcare reform (a work in progress), .

We Europeans fought for our social reforms, sometimes even by electing dictators that cleaned up burocracies .
Inertia doesn't lead you Americans anywhere

 

[exchemist]

I've seen that 2017 and 2018 were 2 years where the POTUS has been vilified behind measure (now the last episode of Family Guy was really disgusting)....and I wonder: why do people hate him so much?
I mean...people's antipathy for him has the most various sources...but most of them are unreasonable and childish...like Russophobic idiocies and things like "he's a women-obsessed pig".

I admit I hate Hillary's guts and she disgust me as woman, as politician and as lawyer (being a jurist myself). But my hatred is REALLY justified: she's behind Benghazi murder and that mess unleashed the destruction of Libya, which caused enormous economic losses for my country and a migration crisis that overwhelmed all Southern Europe.
Besides two district attorneys in Sicily discovered horrendous and shocking dossiers that link Hillary's foundation to criminal organizations investigated for human trafficking.
All this took place when the Kenyan guy was POTUS

Trump is a congenital liar, a dogwhistle white supremacist and a nepotist, who is undermining both the institutions of the USA and the international institutions that help keep the peace and aid economic growth, while encouraging intolerance at home and coarsening the terms of political debate.

 

[Estro Felino]

Trump is a congenital liar, a dogwhistle white supremacist and a nepotist, who is undermining both the institutions of the USA and the international institutions that help keep the peace and aid economic growth, while encouraging intolerance at home and coarsening the terms of political debate.

Again: these are insignificant things compared to what Hillary did and can do

 

[Sunstone]

Trump is a congenital liar, a dogwhistle white supremacist and a nepotist, who is undermining both the institutions of the USA and the international institutions that help keep the peace and aid economic growth, while encouraging intolerance at home and coarsening the terms of political debate.

"But he can't be all good", say the Trump supporters. "There's got to be something wrong with him."

 

[Terese]

I don't hate Trump, but its quite evident that he's not a good president and does not advocate for democracy and egalitarianism. Nor does his friend Putin for that matter.

Again: these are insignificant things compared to what Hillary did and can do

They most certainly are not. Also, your fear of migrants is always very clear in your posts. It is also bizarre that you love Russia very much yet Putin's attitude towards gays are hostile. Why i remark on these is because i question your reasoning skills.

 

[Jumi]

He's a mixed bag foreign policywise, but quite bad for internal politics in his country since he likes lowest common denominators.

 

[wellwisher]

Trump is not a career politician. He does not have the career politician skills, using two faces when he addresses people. Trump is very direct and what he says, like it or not, is where he is coming from. Hillary is more two faced and will smile for you even if she hates or tolerates you. Pretense is important to the left. A two faced dinner party is where everyone smile and pretends to be interested in each other to their face, while back stabbing them behind their back. Trump is not good at this. If you deserve the knife, he stabs the front. This is taboo at the two face dinner party.

Trump is from the private sector, where business have to move fast. If Apple or Microsoft come out with a new product, the other need to turn on dime before they get left behind. Government is slow like a snail and avoids any change, until all the politicians calculate the political impact on them and their donors. It is better to kick the can down the road instead of take a risk. Trump does not do a political impact or donor study, but picks up the ball and starts to run, as is normal in the private sector. You need to go for it. There is a clash of styles based on private and public sector.

When I was in college I worked summer jobs. One summer job was in a union shop. I had to pay union dues, even though I would not be their long enough to get benefits. But still the money was good.

Since my job was short term; summer, and working hard made the time go by faster, I worked hard and enjoyed it. I was told to slow down by my fellow workers, since I was making them look bad, to management. Management noticed my hard work and complemented me. I slowed somewhat, but in my zeal I often picked up the pace. Next, I would confronted by the union head who then made the union position clear. I had to dumb down or else I would be singled out and dealt with. I caved so my summer job would not become a burden.

This is Trump's position in a nutshell. He is not two faced enough for Washington and he moves too fast. Trump is doing the right thing, but this is making the smaller team look bad. The result is a self serving political revolt trying to undermine him. They are trying to set an example, so if anyone else acts up, they will think twice, so the two faced snail can walk its true pace.

For example, moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem, was a can that had been kicked down the road for decades. It was promised by everyone. It was not a difficult task, but it had to be made to look tough, with all the two face politicians straining under the immense weight. Trump picks up the ball and scores a touch our down in months. This makes everyone look incompetent. The Democrats and some Republicans have decided to foot drag to show everyone just how hard everything needs to pretend to be.

 

[Estro Felino]

Trump is not a career politician. He does not have the career politician skills, using two faces when he addresses people. Trump is very direct and what he says, like it or not, is where he is coming from. Hillary is more two faced and will smile for you even if she hates or tolerates you.

Only wicked people can be phony...and Hillary is wicked.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've seen that 2017 and 2018 were 2 years where the POTUS has been vilified behind measure (now the last episode of Family Guy was really disgusting)....and I wonder: why do people hate him so much?
I mean...people's antipathy for him has the most various sources...but most of them are unreasonable and childish...like Russophobic idiocies and things like "he's a women-obsessed pig".

I admit I hate Hillary's guts and she disgust me as woman, as politician and as lawyer (being a jurist myself). But my hatred is REALLY justified: she's behind Benghazi murder and that mess unleashed the destruction of Libya, which caused enormous economic losses for my country and a migration crisis that overwhelmed all Southern Europe.
Besides two district attorneys in Sicily discovered horrendous and shocking dossiers that link Hillary's foundation to criminal organizations investigated for human trafficking.
All this took place when the Kenyan guy was POTUS

I work on not hating.
(Hatred is best applied to family.)
I've had some success here, limiting my feeling to merely being repelled by some.
Hatred interferes with finding merit in people when it's deserved.
Even Trump, Obama, Cheney, & Pelosi have their good points.
Liking a politician too much is also best avoided.

 

[exchemist]

I work on not hating.
(Hatred is best applied to family.)
I've had some success here, limiting my feeling to merely being repelled by some.
Hatred interferes with finding merit in people when it's deserved.
Even Trump, Obama, Cheney, & Pelosi have their good points.

Ah but hate is part of the zeitgeist, you see. Musso is plugged into this far better than you.

Time to re-read "1984". I understand sales of it have shot up since Trump's election.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ah but hate is part of the zeitgeist, you see. Musso is plugged into this far better than you.

Time to re-read "1984". I understand sales of it have shot up since Trump's election.

I read it...or rather, heard it.
(I listen to books & podcasts when on the road.)
But I think the presidential parallel is greater with
Harrison Bergeron than with 1984.

 

[fantome profane]

Anyone who is responsible for putting children in cages is not someone I want to have a beer with.

 

[Estro Felino]

Ah but hate is part of the zeitgeist, you see. Musso is plugged into this far better than you.

Time to re-read "1984". I understand sales of it have shot up since Trump's election.

Our Musso has never hated Britain. He was her ally...but then she stabbed him in the back as soon as he started fighting some bankers and Freemasons.

We really needed that dictatorship and seeing how far neo-liberism has gone, we won't repent.

 

[Estro Felino]

Anyone who is responsible for putting children in cages is not someone I want to have a beer with.

Sure...I won't talk to some Prime Minister who says being Anglo-Saxon = being racist either

 

[exchemist]

Our Musso has never hated Britain. He was her ally...but then she stabbed him in the back as soon as he started fighting some bankers and Freemasons.

We really needed that dictatorship and seeing how far neo-liberism has gone, we won't repent.

Oh sorry, I thought you realised. "Musso" is my soubriquet for you.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh sorry, I thought you realised. "Musso" is my soubriquet for you.

I am thoroughly confused.

 

[averageJOE]

Is there a reason that in the 2019 world of politics people are still bringing up Hillary Clinton?