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Why do you hate Trump\ Why do you hate Hillary?

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I've seen that 2017 and 2018 were 2 years where the POTUS has been vilified behind measure (now the last episode of Family Guy was really disgusting)....and I wonder: why do people hate him so much?
I mean...people's antipathy for him has the most various sources...but most of them are unreasonable and childish...like Russophobic idiocies and things like "he's a women-obsessed pig".

There are also his insistent self-important demeanor, his obsessive and irresponsible lying to preserve his self-image, and his general immaturity.

But I do not nearly so much hate him as I despise his supporters. It is not really his fault that he is utterly broken yet unduly enabled.

I admit I hate Hillary's guts and she disgust me as woman, as politician and as lawyer (being a jurist myself). But my hatred is REALLY justified: she's behind Benghazi murder and that mess unleashed the destruction of Libya, which caused enormous economic losses for my country and a migration crisis that overwhelmed all Southern Europe.

Heard that tale, sometimes wonder if you mean it.

Besides two district attorneys in Sicily discovered horrendous and shocking dossiers that link Hillary's foundation to criminal organizations investigated for human trafficking.
All this took place when the Kenyan guy was POTUS

And right here you throw your credibility decisively in the trash bin...

"Kenyan"? Come on. You are not even trying to be taken seriously.

Is there a reason that in the 2019 world of politics people are still bringing up Hillary Clinton?
Good question.
To the best of my understanding it is a matter of conjuring a boogeyperson with the right balance of fantasy and real existence, nothing more.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Is there a reason that in the 2019 world of politics people are still bringing up Hillary Clinton?
I bring her up everytime people complain about DJT saying that hag should have won

if I was not objective I would say: "I hate all dems". I don't. I think Sanders is good, I think Alexandria Ocasio C. is good. But Hillary is demoniac, diabolic, evil incarnate.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I bring her up everytime people complain about DJT saying that hag should have won

if I was not objective I would say: "I hate all dems". I don't. I think Sanders is good, I think Alexandria Ocasio C. is good. But Hillary is demoniac, diabolic, evil incarnate.
We should note that the left brings up Hillary regularly, both directly
(claiming she'd be our savior had she won) or indirectly (carping
about why anyone would vote for Trump).
Regarding why Trump won, Hillary's book explains it on the cover.
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I've seen that 2017 and 2018 were 2 years where the POTUS has been vilified behind measure (now the last episode of Family Guy was really disgusting)....and I wonder: why do people hate him so much?
I mean...people's antipathy for him has the most various sources...but most of them are unreasonable and childish...like Russophobic idiocies and things like "he's a women-obsessed pig".

I admit I hate Hillary's guts and she disgust me as woman, as politician and as lawyer (being a jurist myself). But my hatred is REALLY justified: she's behind Benghazi murder and that mess unleashed the destruction of Libya, which caused enormous economic losses for my country and a migration crisis that overwhelmed all Southern Europe.
Besides two district attorneys in Sicily discovered horrendous and shocking dossiers that link Hillary's foundation to criminal organizations investigated for human trafficking.
All this took place when the Kenyan guy was POTUS


I suspect it really depends on the media you watch. CNN portrays Trump as a villain, FOX portrays Clinton as a Villain. A daily diet of dislike, distrust from opinionated news reporters is bound to affect your feelings about both since a majority don't really personally know either.

We are left to rely on the claims of others who we really don't know either. No reason to trust any of it but still our feelings are what they are, influenced by a myriad of third party inputs.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I suspect it really depends on the media you watch. CNN portrays Trump as a villain, FOX portrays Clinton as a Villain. A daily diet of dislike, distrust from opinionated news reporters is bound to affect your feelings about both since a majority don't really personally know either.

We are left to rely on the claims of others who we really don't know either. No reason to trust any of it but still our feelings are what they are, influenced by a myriad of third party inputs.
I understand. I watch neither of them.
Of course nobody possesses the absolute truth...I relied on the media of my country most of which surely demonize Hillary and are pretty neutral about Trump.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I work on not hating.
(Hatred is best applied to family.)
I've had some success here, limiting my feeling to merely being repelled by some.
Hatred interferes with finding merit in people when it's deserved.
Even Trump, Obama, Cheney, & Pelosi have their good points.
Liking a politician too much is also best avoided.

I don't hate the American people....whether they voted for Hillary or Trump.
I've expressed hatred towards Hillary here....many times but I have NEVER insulted those who voted for her or for Obama.

RF people humiliated me, called me names for posts of mine that tried to defend or justify Trump.

That made me understand that people here are tough on anyone, but on themselves.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't hate the American people....whether they voted for Hillary or Trump.
I've expressed hatred towards Hillary here....many times but I have NEVER insulted those who voted for her or for Obama.

RF people humiliated me, called me names for posts of mine that tried to defend or justify Trump.

That made me understand that people here are tough on anyone, but on themselves.
Tis good that you limit your hatred, which is something to manage well.
I've noticed that you endure some flack here...deservedly so at times.
But you continue with humor & good cheer.
Many could learn from you.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Regarding why Trump won, Hillary's book explains it on the cover.
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The issue is serious. I believe Hillary is involved in something huge...here deputy Meloni (0:48) presents the copy of an email that shows how Hillary knew that Libya would be bombed because Gaddafi wanted to destroy the French neo-colonial exploitation in W.Africa

The US could have had a monster as President

 

GodInUs

Member
I've seen that 2017 and 2018 were 2 years where the POTUS has been vilified behind measure (now the last episode of Family Guy was really disgusting)....and I wonder: why do people hate him so much?
I mean...people's antipathy for him has the most various sources...but most of them are unreasonable and childish...like Russophobic idiocies and things like "he's a women-obsessed pig".

I admit I hate Hillary's guts and she disgust me as woman, as politician and as lawyer (being a jurist myself). But my hatred is REALLY justified: she's behind Benghazi murder and that mess unleashed the destruction of Libya, which caused enormous economic losses for my country and a migration crisis that overwhelmed all Southern Europe.
Besides two district attorneys in Sicily discovered horrendous and shocking dossiers that link Hillary's foundation to criminal organizations investigated for human trafficking.
All this took place when the Kenyan guy was POTUS

Hate is quite a strong action, I don't personally know either of them to give a logical or factual answer. But if your referring to total complete strangers that you've seen/heard on the Tell - Lie - Vision then sorry I can't relate or help you there.
 
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