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Why do you think it's wrong for someone else to be gay?

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
His schtick and annual award is at the forefront of the atheist religion. No one has to claim they are a prophet to be one.
Why not actually read a book or two of his before making it fetidly obvious you're just running your mouth about him?
Ams atheist religion? Not collecting stamps isn't a hobby.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Why not actually read a book or two of his before making it fetidly obvious you're just running your mouth about him?
Ams atheist religion? Not collecting stamps isn't a hobby.
In one of his books he has written his kind of evolutionary scientist “despises” scientific creationists, yet his books have no facts specifically addressing the scientific explanation on creation. You have the opportunity to state his case if you’ve read his books. He seems a man driven by hate towards God.

It looks like it bothers you a lot.
Not in the slightest. Atheists just don’t know how to win. They’re not as happy as me.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
This comment illustrates a common assertion by some theists that atheism is a religion. "Atheist religion" is an oxymoron. I see believers do this in varying ways by dilluting the definition of "religion" to the point that it could mean any hobby or activity. And it ironically attempts to damage the value of religion that believers try to advance by trying to classify atheism as religion too.


An ordinary large snowflake?
I am not a theist. And I am not an atheist.
So try again and give evidence for your claim.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
In one of his books he has written his kind of evolutionary scientist “despises” scientific creationists, yet his books have no facts specifically addressing the scientific explanation on creation. You have the opportunity to state his case if you’ve read his books. He seems a man driven by hate towards God.
Why not actually read a book or two if his instead of making false statements about a book you can't even name?
Not in the slightest. Atheists just don’t know how to win. They’re not as happy as me.
If that's something you consider a valid point, yeah, it seems to bother you a lot. Not as happy as you? That's not even a point.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Why not actually read a book or two if his instead of making false statements about a book you can't even name?
It’s on pages 229-230 of The Blind Watchmaker. I wont quote it because of the hatred in the comment. I think you will find I’m stating fact. But why don’t you give some facts on creation from his books. It’s your opportunity to give a balanced view if you can.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Why are some people so self absorbed that the think any else really cares if they're gay?
 

an anarchist

Your local loco.
Why are some people so self absorbed that the think any else really cares if they're gay?
I think you're looking at it wrong. Some straight people, particularly religious people, care about other people's sexuality. I am a closeted homosexual in my day to day life because of today's culture. I will be judged by some for being gay, thanks to religion.

Am I self absorbed?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
It’s on pages 229-230 of The Blind Watchmaker. I wont quote it because of the hatred in the comment.
Well, if you can't quote it, we can't really talk about it, can we?

I think you will find I’m stating fact. But why don’t you give some facts on creation from his books. It’s your opportunity to give a balanced view if you can.
There are no "facts on creation." Not sure why you would think Dawkins would be presenting such a thing.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I think you're looking at it wrong. Some straight people, particularly religious people, care about other people's sexuality. I am a closeted homosexual in my day to day life because of today's culture. I will be judged by some for being gay, thanks to religion.

Am I self absorbed?
That's a possibility, yes. Honestly, far fewer people care about your sexuality than you think. Since there are many religious people that don't care if someone is gay that suggests that religion is not the cause of why some hate gays. Also there are many irreligious people that hate gays, such as atheistic communists. It isn't about religion.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It’s on pages 229-230 of The Blind Watchmaker. I wont quote it because of the hatred in the comment. I think you will find I’m stating fact. But why don’t you give some facts on creation from his books. It’s your opportunity to give a balanced view if you can.
In the God Delusion he does acknowledge the Simulation theory as gnarly difficult to disprove and concedes it does have much explainatory power. He's not out trashing your beliefs, he's stacking your beliefs up against the evidence and highlighting the short comings. And you'll have to actually cite that because I'm not convinced you've read him or gave him an honest study. Like how you aren't mentioning how he writes the doctrine of hell can be more traumatic than sexual assault (and I can say myself being groped is icky but hell gave me nightmares).
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Atheists won’t use the word religion when others describe them and the organisations they are affiliated to religious because they say it doesn't involve the worship of a god but they do worship Satan in their ignorance.
False. Satan is a character in the Abrahamic religions. It’s a religious concept that no atheist thinks is real. I wonder how you can be so confused to think a religious idea as being one atheists would believe in.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Because some people actually do care. And do everything in their power to marginalize and demonize gay people just because they're gay.
"Some". I say far fewer than many think. Also "some" gays are letting their imaginations run away with them and over blowing the syndrome.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
False. Satan is a character in the Abrahamic religions. It’s a religious concept that no atheist thinks is real. I wonder how you can be so confused to think a religious idea as being one atheists would believe in.
False, Satan is a real being and not a concept. Atheists even most Abrahamics don’t know this. But atheists can be oblivious to what they are actually worshiping and find out when it’s too late. There’s no excuse not believing, Romans 1.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Incidentally, that's also true for two straight people if she's infertile, but so what in either case? The arguments against homosexuality based in it being nonprocreative sex are irrelevant. Why should it matter to anybody if people have consensual sex with no chance of pregnancy?
It was just to point out what is wrong with homosexuality. At least for same sex people who desire a biological family of their own but can't.

Not there is anything wrong in the context of two same sex partners.

That's why I bolded physical , not moral reasons.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
In the God Delusion he does acknowledge the Simulation theory as gnarly difficult to disprove and concedes it does have much explainatory power. He's not out trashing your beliefs, he's stacking your beliefs up against the evidence and highlighting the short comings. And you'll have to actually cite that because I'm not convinced you've read him or gave him an honest study. Like how you aren't mentioning how he writes the doctrine of hell can be more traumatic than sexual assault (and I can say myself being groped is icky but hell gave me nightmares).
He doesn’t have any scientific evidence that disproves the existence of God, what I have said all along.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Syndrome? Man you're obtuse.
Syndrome: (n)a group of symptoms which consistently occur together, or a condition characterized by a set of associated symptoms.

As in this case the syndrome of those that hate gays without cause.

I don't know why you are so hostile. Too much caffeine?
 
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