Why do you think it's wrong for someone else to be gay?

[Father Heathen]

Dunno what that has to do with anything, but OK! Good point whatever it is!

She's saying most of the hate toward LGBT is due to irrational, unsubstantiated superstition. So it does have a lot to do with it, and yes it was a good point.

 

[Father Heathen]

Yep. Shows the leaders of the story.

Who leads what story?

 

[Father Heathen]

@Twilight Hue probably views The Duggars as a model family:

19 Kids and Counting - Wikipedia

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Jim Bob Duggar - Wikipedia

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Josh Duggar - Wikipedia

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[Shadow Wolf]

Freud was ahead of his time. Still waiting for others to catch up.

He wasn't ahead of his time and no one is playing catch up because he's a crock of ****. Seriously, according to Frued you want to **** your mother.

 

[Jimmy]

You’re an atheist that bends the truth of what the Bible actually states. What’s more the Sodom and Gomorrah account shows how God punished those practicing homosexuals, no one escapes God’s justice.

No one? Accept for the gay couple who led decent hard working happy lives and lived to ripe old ages with relatively no health problems. Haha.

 

[Jimmy]

Because they aren't gay.
It would be wrong for me to be gay because I am not.
So I'd assume it wouldn't be right for someone else who isn't gay to be gay.
I certainly would want to try and convince them they ought to be gay when they are not.

Maybe their experimenting who knows

 

[Jimmy]

I was referring to Sodom and Gomorrah but as you raised the issue and in line with the topic what about homosexual caused AIDS, HIV and the resulting blood contaminated products that ruined the lives of non homosexuals in the last few decades and more recently monkeypox.

The reason cases like monkey pox are higher percentage wise in homosexual groups is because there’s fewer gays. Heterosexuals outnumber gays by a wide margin so the percentage of a disease in the heterosexual group will be lower.

The answer my friend is blowin in the wind.

Live and let live.

It’s very rewarding

 

[Estro Felino]

I define homosexuality two men who have sex and two women who have sex.

The fact that we are 8 billion people in this world, it means that homosexuals are an insignificant percentage.
Because most people have heterosexual sex.
Because if most people engaged in homosexual sex, we would be less than the half.

So I am not understanding why people feel so threatened by homosexuals, since their percentage is ridiculous.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Dunno what that has to do with anything, but OK! Good point whatever it is!

It has to do with the fact that people who learned homosexuality is wrong learned it from an ancient book that claims more than once the Earth is flat and doesn't move.

 

[Twilight Hue]

He wasn't ahead of his time and no one is playing catch up because he's a crock of ****. Seriously, according to Frued you want to **** your mother.

Uh, maybe in your simple gnorance it's that.

It has more to do with what is called the Oedipus Complex.

You need to study Freud more because you know nothing about the man.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Uh, maybe in your simple gnorance it's that.

It has more to do with what is called the Oedipus Complex.

You need to study Freud more because you know nothing about the man.

You do know that Freud had the problem of what he claimed, is not science in the modern sense.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

True but it's not an actual true blood family in terms of genetics. That's why I called it artificial.

From an ethological and evolutionary perspective, that doesn't matter. What's artificial is the ideologies around bloodlines. Humans like tracing bloodlines and attach meaning to it, but this is a human construct.

Humans are communal, and will raise other human children together. Takes a village, right? Being able to adopt offspring is an important role in human communities and this is a very common practice in nature outside Homo sapiens.

So the artificial is actually the ideology that it is somehow wrong for two people of the same biological sex to adopt where they cannot reproduce.

 

[Apostle John]

The reason cases like monkey pox are higher percentage wise in homosexual groups is because there’s fewer gays. Heterosexuals outnumber gays by a wide margin so the percentage of a disease in the heterosexual group will be lower.

Your bending facts and giving disinformation. The fact is homosexuality has driven this epidemic. Quote from the WHO website:

“the ongoing outbreak is largely developing in men who have sex with men (defined as homosexual or bisexual males in detailed case forms) networks.” Also:

• Among cases with known data on sexual orientation, 84.1% (25690/30555) identified as men who have sex with men. Of those identified as men who have sex with men, 2004/25690 (7.8%) were identified as bisexual men.

It was the same with AIDS/HIV. Homosexuals were the primary driving source for that epidemic. If there was no homosexuality there would be/ have been no epidemics of these particular diseases.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yes I am serious. If you view the facts carefully and with impartiality it’s the only conclusion anyone could come to. If there was no homosexuality there would have been no epidemic.

I didn’t say monkeypox had anything to do with HIV/AIDS but it’s spread did/does appear to be homosexuality related.

Nonsense. I guess you've never seen the stats for say, Africa?
This is just flat out bigotry.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Uh, maybe in your simple gnorance it's that.

It has more to do with what is called the Oedipus Complex.

You need to study Freud more because you know nothing about the man.

No, Shadow Wolf is right on Freud. Both of us have studied psychology quite extensively, so we do kinda know we're talking about here.
There is a reason his ideas have fallen out of favour many, many years ago and have been replaced with better ones.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Your bending facts and giving disinformation. The fact is homosexuality has driven this epidemic. Quote from the WHO website:

“the ongoing outbreak is largely developing in men who have sex with men (defined as homosexual or bisexual males in detailed case forms) networks.” Also:

• Among cases with known data on sexual orientation, 84.1% (25690/30555) identified as men who have sex with men. Of those identified as men who have sex with men, 2004/25690 (7.8%) were identified as bisexual men.

It was the same with AIDS/HIV. Homosexuals were the primary driving source for that epidemic. If there was no homosexuality there would be/ have been no epidemics of these particular diseases.

Here, you are bending facts. Without homosexuality there would still be a problem with AIDS/HIV and Monkeypox. Heterosexuals can contract them.

Why do you suppose homosexuals are "the primary driving source"? What is it about homosexuality that makes it more of a source as you state?

And, even if true, the problem shouldn't lie in the people getting the disease but the disease itself. Shouldn't a community help the people suffering from the disease rather than stigmatize them? Does victim-blaming fix the problem?

 

[Apostle John]

Here, you are bending facts. Without homosexuality there would still be a problem with AIDS/HIV and Monkeypox. Heterosexuals can contract them.

Why do you suppose homosexuals are "the primary driving source"? What is it about homosexuality that makes it more of a source as you state?

And, even if true, the problem shouldn't lie in the people getting the disease but the disease itself. Shouldn't a community help the people suffering from the disease rather than stigmatize them? Does victim-blaming fix the problem?

The information is true and can be found on reliable world health websites. Christians do try to warn against homosexuality and they would help save lives if they were listened to but we Christians don’t/cannot force homosexuals to change their practices.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The information is true and can be found on reliable world health websites. Christians do try to warn against homosexuality and they would help save lives if they were listened to but we Christians don’t/cannot force homosexuals to change their practices.

Homosexuality isn't the cause of HIV/AIDS or of monkey pox. So you and your fellow Christians who "warn against homosexuality" on that basis, are just flat out wrong. And bigoted.

 

[Jimmy]

Your bending facts and giving disinformation. The fact is homosexuality has driven this epidemic. Quote from the WHO website:

“the ongoing outbreak is largely developing in men who have sex with men (defined as homosexual or bisexual males in detailed case forms) networks.” Also:

• Among cases with known data on sexual orientation, 84.1% (25690/30555) identified as men who have sex with men. Of those identified as men who have sex with men, 2004/25690 (7.8%) were identified as bisexual men.

It was the same with AIDS/HIV. Homosexuals were the primary driving source for that epidemic. If there was no homosexuality there would be/ have been no epidemics of these particular diseases.

I reread what I wrote and it doesn't make sense. My bad. Perhaps it's easier for gay people to get HIV because there sexual practices may be riskier but that doesn't give you the right to think any less of them. Hopefully one day you will accept them and start being kind to them.

 

[Twilight Hue]

From an ethological and evolutionary perspective, that doesn't matter. What's artificial is the ideologies around bloodlines. Humans like tracing bloodlines and attach meaning to it, but this is a human construct.

Humans are communal, and will raise other human children together. Takes a village, right? Being able to adopt offspring is an important role in human communities and this is a very common practice in nature outside Homo sapiens.

So the artificial is actually the ideology that it is somehow wrong for two people of the same biological sex to adopt where they cannot reproduce.

The point was that natural bloodlines are impossible with same sex individuals unless there is actually procreation going on with the opposite sex, like bisexual activity. It's artificial in terms of establishing natural genetic lineages, not the morality aspect of adopting a child.