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Why do you think it's wrong for someone else to be gay?

Alien826

No religious beliefs
I want to make one point only, as I agree with the idea that who brought you up is more "family" to you than some traveling salesman that your Mom happened to fancy one day long ago.

Actual paternity and maternity is critical in nature. A male lion that takes over a pride will kill the young of the previous male. The females then come into heat almost immediately and he gets to father a new generation of his own offspring. That happens because the genes that code for that behavior won out over the genes that didn't, and I mean won out in the sense that there are now more of them in the gene pool.

That's at the gene level though, which has little regard (metaphorically) for the well being of individual creatures that they create, other than their ability to "serve" the genes. The good news is that we don't have to follow those rules.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
I reread what I wrote and it doesn't make sense. My bad. Perhaps it's easier for gay people to get HIV because there sexual practices may be riskier but that doesn't give you the right to think any less of them. Hopefully one day you will accept them and start being kind to them.
What about warning practitioners of homosexuality of hell. Would that be considered as kind? I don’t believe they will be around in the Millennium Reign by my understanding of the Scriptures.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
What about warning practitioners of homosexuality of hell. Would that be considered as kind? I don’t believe they will be around in the Millennium Reign by my understanding of the Scriptures.
That wouldn’t be nice. They will always be here. You are judgemental. Hopefully one day you can overcome that.
 
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Alien826

No religious beliefs
The point was that natural bloodlines are impossible with same sex individuals unless there is actually procreation going on with the opposite sex, like bisexual activity. It's artificial in terms of establishing natural genetic lineages, not the morality aspect of adopting a child.
That's a narrow view of Evolution.

Your own children have half your genes. Your brother's children have a quarter of your genes. (Is that right percentage wise? It works for illustration.) So, if you help your brother to bring up his children you are contributing to the survival of your own genes, but at a lower level than if you had your own children. This happens in many species.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That's a narrow view of Evolution.

Your own children have half your genes. Your brother's children have a quarter of your genes. (Is that right percentage wise? It works for illustration.) So, if you help your brother to bring up his children you are contributing to the survival of your own genes, but at a lower level than if you had your own children. This happens in many species.
Which proves natural lineages between a man and a woman.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
That wouldn’t be nice. They will always be here. You are judgemental. Hopefully one day you can over that.
Oh yes, there is existence when the 1000 years are up, then Satan will be released for a little while longer. Homosexuality could be brought back then.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
What about warning practitioners of homosexuality of hell. Would that be considered as kind? I don’t believe they will be around in the Millennium Reign by my understanding of the Scriptures.
I think that warning someone that they are about to drive over a cliff would be a kind thing to do. Bear in mind though that not everyone believes that the cliff exists or if this particular road actually leads to the cliff, so don't be too strident about it, and let the warning be the end of it. :)
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I think that warning someone that they are about to drive over a cliff would be a kind thing to do. Bear in mind though that not everyone believes that the cliff exists or if this particular road actually leads to the cliff, so don't be too strident about it, and let the warning be the end of it. :)
Eh, worry about your own ‘warnings’ about your own ‘problems’.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
You’re the guesser.

Well, no! My certainty is the same as yours. We both act on our individual certainty. You are not that special in that you are the only human, which is certain. That is the problem. Now if you could show that we actually were uncertain and couldn't act differently that you, you would have a point.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
You only believe what you believe because you were indoctrinated as a child. Your faith was determined by where you were born. You never objectively weighed logic and evidence to arrive at your conclusion; it was spoonfed to you.
I believe Christians actually come from heaven. I only became born again shortly after my 50th birthday, never being, or even behaving very Christian before, but yes, I was always at an advantage being born to Christian parents.

It‘s the likes of Professor Richard Dawkins and all those atheists that are worse off through indoctrination.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Uh, maybe in your simple gnorance it's that.

It has more to do with what is called the Oedipus Complex.

You need to study Freud more because you know nothing about the man.
Yes, there is more to Frued. Like how1 you're afraid of vaginas and how they scare you because they make you think of castration.
We all know your background isn't psych. I actually have had a study of Frued. Today there are very few clinicians who practice his psychoanalysis because it's been very thoroughly debunked and debunked again more as we learn about neuropsychology.
But Freud didn't use science to arrive at this idea. He started out with a theory and then worked backward, seeking out tidbits to reinforce his beliefs and then aggressively dismissing anything else that challenged those ideas. That's according to Frederick Crews, a one-time Freudian follower and professor of English at the University of California, Berkeley.

"Freud passed himself off as a scientist. He was very sensitive to objections and would simply laugh at an objection and claim the person making it was psychologically ill," Crews told Live Science.
Sigmund Freud — also known as the father of Psychoanalysis — introduced some very interesting theories throughout the first half of 20th centuries, and irrespective of the fact that most of his theories later proved to be bogus, there is no harm in examining his views and having an intellectual discourse over Psychoanalysis or Psychodynamic therapy.
Freud has, for the most part, fallen completely out of favor in academia. Virtually no institution in any discipline would dare use him as a credible source. In 1996, Psychological Science reached the conclusion that “[T]here is literally nothing to be said, scientifically or therapeutically, to the advantage of the entire Freudian system or any of its component dogmas." As a research paradigm, it’s pretty much dead.
The point was that natural bloodlines are impossible with same sex individuals unless there is actually procreation going on with the opposite sex, like bisexual activity. It's artificial in terms of establishing natural genetic lineages, not the morality aspect of adopting a child.
Nature does not give one damn. Survival of the species is important to the individual species, and even that this "true bloodline" is utterly without merit and unneeded. It only matters to those with ideologies that include genetic purity. Such an idea is totally alien to Nature.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I believe Christians actually come from heaven. I only became born again shortly after my 50th birthday, never being, or even behaving very Christian before, but yes, I was always at an advantage being born to Christian parents.

It‘s the likes of Professor Richard Dawkins and all those atheists that are worse off through indoctrination.
Richard Dawkins was raised in a Christian household. He broke free from his indoctrination.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Richard Dawkins was raised in a Christian household. He broke free from his indoctrination.
Not what I heard. He helped start a new religion by writing books with no facts. I’ve recently seen photos of him shaking hands welcoming fanatics into an atheist hall of fame accepting his annual award scheme.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Not what I heard. He helped start a new religion by writing books with no facts. I’ve recently seen photos of him shaking hands welcoming fanatics into an atheist hall of fame accepting his annual award scheme.

Yeah, that is the problem with the thinking of some people. They are special as individual as for truth, objective, rational and all those other words. Well, they are not. I am the special one for that and you are one of them. ;)
 
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