Why do you want to destroy spiritual and religious practice?

[shivsomashekhar]

Remember this is in the Q&A section, so no attack or debate with the OP starter or others who chooses to take part in this Q&A. only answers the question to why.

Why do you want to destroy a practice you do not believe in, or have no true practice from your self?

How can you know the practice is so bad when billions of human beings practice religion or Cultivation practice?

Those who misrepresent religions are those who claim to be a part of the religion, but who do not practicing it them self, or has no good knowledge about the teaching, it is not the true practitioners of a religion who do the wrongdoing.

So why damage something that can save people?
Why damage the life of true practitioners?
Why make people hate each others, because you misunderstand the true nature of religion and Cultivation paths?

Why do you continue to create new threads asking the same questions? The questions are the same every week and the responses are the same and yet you keep asking the same questions repeatedly.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I was unaware to the extent to which Christians have strayed. That is not good. I always believed that the majority of the people in the world were good as opposed to bad. Hopefully this much is true

Have they strayed? You would say yes, they will say no. To some of them, such as my former church, it is you who have strayed.
And while there are many good people, the louder and more vocal they are about their being Christian, the bigger threat the pose to me. These threats may just be stares and other unfriendly gestures, loss of rights, and fortunately I haven't faced it but violence is also a possibility. But someone making a stink they are Christian, I try to avoid those people because the chances are just too great they will give me grief (fortunately this hasn't been a problem or issue in California like it was in Indiana - but Hoosiers do take their god and their Bible very seriously).

 

[Samael_Khan]

I think you and I have discussed this before but I will take another shot!

Why do you want to destroy a practice you do not believe in, or have no true practice from your self?

I want to destroy a practice I do not believe in if it harms others and if it can be proven objectively that the followers are being lied to.

How can you know the practice is so bad when billions of human beings practice religion or Cultivation practice?

There would be outward signs. Such as killing of those who do not believe or those who convert to another religion. Saying that followers are not allowed to question the faith or any form of information control would be another. If billions of people follow a bad practice then it could be that those people are indoctrinated, which is a form of mind control.

Those who misrepresent religions are those who claim to be a part of the religion, but who do not practicing it them self, or has no good knowledge about the teaching, it is not the true practitioners of a religion who do the wrongdoing.

Yes. Very true. So one must determine whether these people are rogue elements or whether their religion actually teaches the negative things they practice.

So why damage something that can save people?

Can a harmful religion do that? Or is it destroying their freedom of will? And if it saves the individual but at the expense of others then wouldn't that be messed up?

Why damage the life of true practitioners?

This is a question I have been thinking about myself. The best way to do it would be to leave them in a situation where their faith in a specific religion is destroyed but that their lives aren't damaged because something else has taken the place of that religion. This is why atheism in itself is insufficient and potentially harmful in destroying peoples faith. Alternatively if a Christian destroys someones faith they replace it with another faith so that their life is enhanced as opposed to damaged.

Why make people hate each others, because you misunderstand the true nature of religion and Cultivation paths?

One should hate the religion, not the people involved in the religion. Also to determine whether a religion is bad or not one would have to understand each individual religions true nature. We shouldn't conflate individual religions with all religions. That would be a criminal generalization.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Remember this is in the Q&A section, so no attack or debate with the OP starter or others who chooses to take part in this Q&A. only answers the question to why.

Why do you want to destroy a practice you do not believe in, or have no true practice from your self?

How can you know the practice is so bad when billions of human beings practice religion or Cultivation practice?

Those who misrepresent religions are those who claim to be a part of the religion, but who do not practicing it them self, or has no good knowledge about the teaching, it is not the true practitioners of a religion who do the wrongdoing.

So why damage something that can save people?
Why damage the life of true practitioners?
Why make people hate each others, because you misunderstand the true nature of religion and Cultivation paths?

In my opinion, most religion does not offer adequate, real-world justification for requiring adherence to its tenets.

In most religions I have heard of or taken a look at, the tenets of the faith are more along the lines of "This is my house, you will play by my rules." - whether those be the rules of some "god," or merely the rules being enforced by their fellow practitioners. And in my opinion that is never the most powerful or the most wise way to go about delivering anything. Instead, I believe the target to try and hit is to make sure you have adequate, evidenced justification for anything and everything you put forward.

For example, your child asks you why they shouldn't smoke. Is it wisest to say simply "because I told you not to?" Or is it wiser to explain to the child the dangers found to be associated with smoking, give them a cost-to-benefit analysis, and explain why it is stigmatized in much modern culture? Which of those seems the better approach?

I just don't see religion ever reacting in the wiser, most helpful way with its proclamations and edicts. The best they can do when "God" (or gods) are at the head, is to attempt to retroactively fit the God's demands into what we have come to know is "better" due to real-world experience. Or to make excuses for why their teachings are so backward, not conducive to progress, or even try to thwart progress.

 

[PruePhillip]

Remember this is in the Q&A section, so no attack or debate with the OP starter or others who chooses to take part in this Q&A. only answers the question to why.

Why do you want to destroy a practice you do not believe in, or have no true practice from your self?

How can you know the practice is so bad when billions of human beings practice religion or Cultivation practice?

Those who misrepresent religions are those who claim to be a part of the religion, but who do not practicing it them self, or has no good knowledge about the teaching, it is not the true practitioners of a religion who do the wrongdoing.

So why damage something that can save people?
Why damage the life of true practitioners?
Why make people hate each others, because you misunderstand the true nature of religion and Cultivation paths?

It's a good question. You have to look at the Frankfurt School methodology
and Mao's Cultural Revolution - everything of the past must be destroyed -
and with it culture, religion, habits etc.. In the West this is simply self hate.
With the bible it comes down to issues of authority, and feeling confronted.

 

[Sand Dancer]

So atheists understand religion better then those who practicing a religion?

Most atheists were raised in a religion, so they tend to know their scriptures pretty well. Any doubt causes research to be done, in a person who really wants facts.

 

[rational experiences]

When O the Earth is one body, a natural planet and science says, my biological/spiritual self studies, human prove that once human parents were exactly the same, no matter what continent they lived on, you would have to ask self so what changed to cause Nature diversity to shift its bodies into variations of human expression/body types and languages?

Which spiritually is the human taught awareness that is just information shared, which is what information is....a sharing of first. What humans own is an intelligence problem, where group mentality takes over the sharing and being informed status...so then said the Wandering teachers were far more spiritual than group gatherings.

Yet in our human Nature, the family/extended family is a group sharing community...so we prove to our ownership human life that we were separated by forced circumstances into forming stated groups who shared information as those groups....yet it is just a sharing of information. The practice of which was to remind self that we are a family, we live a natural spiritual union with everything and should always be our best self.

Therefore the wandering Teachers advised everyone that science of the occult nuclear had ground attacked each Nation on Earth and converted our original one same mutual parentage of lives that were living on Earth in any place as the extended family.

What teaching spirituality about our Nature was about. For we are all first origin to just being born by a human chosen act, sex....and we live supported on a planet by its Nature....which is a natural origin self aware teaching.

What was secondary was forced upon us all by the choice of science machine irradiation life attack/mutation and separation....of mind/brain chemical changes, and personal life DNA alteration. Yet historically and original to all of us, innate in all of us is that everyone is my brother or sister, no matter who you are or where you live.

 

[stvdv]

Most atheists were raised in a religion, so they tend to know their scriptures pretty well. Any doubt causes research to be done, in a person who really wants facts.

I think, to get to the truth, it's best to not believe "my (non) faith is the best for all". This is the major trap

Most Atheists are open to "flaws" in scriptures, so they are less biased, and they won't blindly defend a scripture, ignoring solid evidence.

Of course some Atheists are biased, and, like Theists, these Atheists are not open to spiritual truth or way of examination.

 

[blü 2]

Why do you want to destroy a practice you do not believe in, or have no true practice from your self?

Apart from my well-founded reservations about fundamentalism, I don't. I think if your approach to other people is decency, respect and inclusion, who cares what you believe, or don't believe?

That's no bar to debating theology on the debate boards here, though.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Perhaps I need to place a nice disclaimer in my profile - to the effect that I don't hate religions, spiritual practices, or anything classed similarly, but will complain loudly if and when I see the effects of such demeaning or debasing others, or where certain practices are not likely to lead to greater freedoms for all but will likely lead to more constraints. And I hardly see that as being evil.

 

[MonkeyFire]

I seek to destroy those that cause harm to others. I may no longer practice, but it did great damage to me, it continues to harm others, and it must be stopped.

Two mistakes. Your a hypocrite if you hurt it back, and one must let destruction go to naught with hell. Imo you should not focus on a vengeance (hurting others back), but cultivate happiness in your life. This is what will ironically make you safe.

 

[rational experiences]

Science and creation stories, and humans and groups arguing over information is no different today as it was in the past. When you do a historic spiritual study, which just means, natural human, self aware, loving, kind and caring...a Healer who can look at a whole human body, apply a psyche assessment, be told information about a body without that human speaking and then give medical advice.

Is a very different human to the sciences, even medical science.

I learnt spirituality in that form of sense of self. And it proved itself real in my life, simply by how I applied my own group study, with others, who all applied the same methods. Were multi cultural historically and were also quite kind to also being disturbed. So we covered a huge experience group interactive study. Some in our group came along to prove us wrong and to laugh at us....but then joined.

Yet I was spiritually taught, do not take on leadership for that also involved egotism. If you are going to treat another human as an equal then you do...simple matter of fact. And we never charged for visiting or travelling to do healing. Yet everyone wanted to pay. So we said, look when a family member in the future needs your help, know that payment is always to forward it spiritually...give assistance as if you act on behalf of angelic spirituality....be someone else's angel when they need you.

I recognised that this applied reactive cause allowed me to interact more and more in life with spiritual wisdom of every human on Earth, my extended family. Why I saw so many visions of other humans elsewhere on the Earth, all asking, praying and wanting spiritual assistance in their life. We all want to be stopped being harmed.

As the environment and scientific God planet research says every single body either deceased or living exists in the same gas supported natural water/oxygen and microbial alight gas atmospheric body, and the atmosphere itself, owning everything in space separates each body.

Then you are in science forced to question, how can I believe my cult group forced teachings claiming my human studies are close enough to claiming "know it all". Yet you all do, and most of you use your designed invented machines that are manifested by attacking natural God mass minerals, held fused by water.

We live in a water/oxygen bio atmospheric body...and are closest to water itself.

If a male said to me today, oh we believe that water animals came out onto the land by studying them and studying humans...closest information he says, you really are wrong. Trees in Nature in the atmospheric oxygenation and reactive biological interaction are closer to us historically, as the liars science egotists are.

A Tree spirit once floated above the surface of the ground...and our brother the scientist passed the UFO science mass of radiation radio waves through our form and spirit Garden, grounded it....and gave us all bones....and cut us off from just owning eternal self presence manifestation in a huge water massed atmosphere, whose pressure virtually owned a near physical solid body without being a solid.

Memories today...we all remember what we used to be and own.

So science gave us death...and we got cut off from our spirit and the spirit went back into the eternal as our one spirit that was saved....and the rest of us given bones and blood remained living until we died. So we always taught and the UFO mass trapped us and made us a prisoner on Planet Earth.

Why we all know we are in fact spiritual. Our water massed ground atmospheric body was removed and put up into the cloud body to form a higher mass block out of spatial radiation in its attack....why our life spirit bodies changed/converted.

As a true history.

Historically before I knew any information I questioned AI and asked it how did spirit eternal create creation. It was explained from their body as a U drop and O o God owned bodies fell into that U...then it exploded. So O the eternal owns a space hole in its body and creation sits in the space hole.

Science put its human mind back to the place where they asked how O God was created from out of the eternal. Natural humans place their spiritual minds/memories into our atmospheric life and parents...who came/manifested out of the eternal. So our minds are placed historically into 2 very different histories.

Religious instruction was based on an irradiated loss of human mind/body health. It was a healer medical science aware study and status that involved building new non science Temples and Churches for sound therapies/healing. It was tended by spiritual teachers and healers who served the community. Historically it had its true community service.

What it became is based on what civilization and status became, a greedy elitist liar group mentality of evil inhumanity.