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Why Does An Archangel From Heaven Have to Debate For Years They Exist?

Do you think Zanda is an archangel?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 8.8%
  • No

    Votes: 30 88.2%
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I've never said anyone has to believe in me, I've said I'm the only person with the knowledge on how to fix world religion, sent from Heaven according to the Source of reality, and many of the world's religious texts.

What is a 'great fault' by people on this forum is I'm saying, here is how we could create world peace, and people argue they don't want that.

Though realize many are just arguing, the religious texts relate this will inevitably lead to the death of humanity as a result.

The amount of abuse, and that none believe their religious texts, make us feel like giving up on everyone.

As a 4-5 year old, I didn't believe I was an Avatar with my name in the world's religious texts; though had shown a monk, sage, and nobleman to Heaven, when falling asleep in the graveyard next to where I live, and had advanced knowledge about the Bible, where knew the New Testament was made up.

Still didn't believe it at 15 when the Source of reality explained global eschatology to me, and told me to read the world's religions creating a place for peace in the world.

At 21 on opening the Seals in the Bible in a Vision in Revelation 5, then Revelation 10 soon after at the Doorway to Heaven according to many ancient cultures, having not read the Bible or knowing what this place was.

At the autumn of 21 had a NDE, where saw my place in Heaven, as well as the whole dynamics of reality.

At 24 I read the Bible, finding it had stuff I'd fulfilled, and things I'd known since 5-6 years old, which takes studying the Greek to see properly.

Since 25 done loads of study, and fulfilled prophecy in many texts, by debating everyone online in a Great Battle of the Divine Vs Demons, down here near Hell before the End of Time.

As for my self, I don't want to do any of this, I'm forced into doing all of this religious stuff, with no option, and I wanted to be a musician.

Thus since I've got no option as it is a job for the Divine, there is no self involved in it, it is purely work, and me having a label 'Zanda' is like having a job title saying, 'spiritual leader in many religions'.

In my opinion. :innocent:
First of all, stop repeating the story from when you where 4 years old and up to now, we already know this now.

What i want you to realize is that if you are a new messiah, or whatever you believe you are, you would come with NEW teaching that gave people understanding of how to enlighten and you would be seen as their teacher, None of what you do, you ony repeat what past enlighten masters have said before. Nothing new in your "teaching"
And when asked why you did not spread the teaching other places, you answer that you want to test it on this forum first?? Actually then you telling a lie before you have your own website, and you have a youtube channel (for your music) But nowhere have i seen you give a full lenghty teaching that comes from You. All you have done so far (to my knowledge) is to use other peoples teaching, then you inerpret it to your understanding. If you really was a higher being of heavenly realm, you would have to re cultivate your wisdom from zero to enlighten when you are on earth, Non of what you have done
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
First of all, stop repeating the story from when you where 4 years old and up to now, we already know this now.
It needed repeating, if someone is not being logical as a person, to then assume that someone is doing something that they've been instructed to do as a child by the Divine, to try to help save humanity is for selfish reasons.

The idea to even ask something like it, comes from someone with emotional bullying trauma, to then bully others.
NEW teaching
Have explained the forms of Yoga mixed with the Chakras, in a better system than anyone has understood in history.

Explained the 10 commandments as quantum physics, where no one else has ever known this is Jacob's Ladder.

Between the two it is more advanced than any other religion in history, and you call it stupid...

This is like someone saying to Einstein, "all that stuff on the blackboard is wrong, as maths doesn't use letters". :confused:

As stating previously if you deal with the aspect you're full of the accuser/slanderer, and look to challenge before study, as you were hurt in your past, we might be able to have a more civilized conversation.
And when asked why you did not spread the teaching other places, you answer that you want to test it on this forum first??
The world already follows the Antichrist's teachings, we're down near Hell, with Armageddon, and then Judgement Day soon...

With rude angry people like yourself capable of turning something pure into evil, it isn't worth teaching until after the end of time; this is just to understand why those who are unworthy, will be removed from reality.

I'm testing why people refuse the knowledge needed to be in the age to come; so yes I repeat the Dharma from the world's religious texts, and explain it as prophesied.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It needed repeating, if someone is not being logical as a person, to then assume that someone is doing something that they've been instructed to do as a child by the Divine, to try to help save humanity is for selfish reasons.

The idea to even ask something like it, comes from someone with emotional bullying trauma, to then bully others.

Have explained the forms of Yoga mixed with the Chakras, in a better system than anyone has understood in history.

Explained the 10 commandments as quantum physics, where no one else has ever known this is Jacob's Ladder.

Between the two it is more advanced than any other religion in history, and you call it stupid...

This is like someone saying to Einstein, "all that stuff on the blackboard is wrong, as maths doesn't use letters". :confused:

As stating previously if you deal with the aspect you're full of the accuser/slanderer, and look to challenge before study, as you were hurt in your past, we might be able to have a more civilized conversation.

The world already follows the Antichrist's teachings, we're down near Hell, with Armageddon, and then Judgement Day soon...

With rude angry people like yourself capable of turning something pure into evil, it isn't worth teaching until after the end of time; this is just to understand why those who are unworthy, will be removed from reality.

I'm testing why people refuse the knowledge needed to be in the age to come; so yes I repeat the Dharma from the world's religious texts, and explain it as prophesied.

In my opinion. :innocent:
The enlighten masters from past made their system the way it was meant to be given to humans so they could enlighten too.
What you do by mixing them together the way you do, actually undermind the true teaching from past. So when you take a little from each teaching and try to make it one. You destroy any change for people to become enlighten.

Both Jesus and Buddha Sakyamuni did not teach everything they understood, they only gave enough teaching so people could be saved.
When you take parts of their teaching and mix it, the teaching fall apart.
If you want to be a messiah you, you self must cultivate to enlightenment in one of the existing cultivation paths. No human being just get the enlightenment given to them without effort in cultivation.

You speak about anti-christ. But what you do is not cultivating people to be enlighten, you miss inform them.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
What you do by mixing them together the way you do, actually undermind the true teaching from past.
Falun Gong is a mix of Daoist and Buddhist practises; if we understand the concepts, we can create a better system - I've remembered the dynamics of Heaven since I can.

Like Buddha studied Dharmic & other religious ideas, and became enlighten then made his own improved system.

Honestly what you're saying is not logical; it is an unscientific method, which shows a lack of discernment, opposite to a Buddhist mind set...

Buddha continually showed contrast in his teachings, to come to a conclusion of the middle line; same can happen with all religious understanding.

To be able to create a probability, we need two items to compare; thus to even create logical maths, we need to compare, not assume one path is right.
You speak about anti-christ. But what you do is not cultivating people to be enlighten,
The contradictions between John, Paul, and Simon and the Synoptic Gospels, were design to teach humanity Enlightenment; yet then the Rabbinic Jews refused to teach the Gentiles, then Muhammad was told to educate the Gentiles, so they've corrupted that as well.

We are down near Hell, where demons have taken over the world; understanding this in the world's religious texts, is the only way to enlightenment.

If people do not understand it according to the religious texts globally, they are soon to be committed out of reality; as basically people are insane/evil to accept some of this according to the texts, and they don't have the wisdom to understand it.

Daniel 12:10 Many will purify themselves, and make themselves white, and be refined; but the wicked will do wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand; but those who are wise will understand.

What Revelation states is I'm here before the End of Time inspecting the Harvest, in other words checking we've not missed any Wheat, before reality is burned away in a Day.

A Tare in the field is someone argumentative, twisted, and generally looking to accuse; fruit is when someone has faith to question, and be willing to examine.
you miss inform them.
Fighting with a guide on a mountainside, who happened to teach all the other guides isn't wise; it would be more useful to honour those who came before, and realize who was the Last and First i.e. Z and A.

We weren't always these hurt pain bodies; I feel it when all that venom comes across, what we need to do with the hurt from the school bullying, and trust of society, is to use the energy to transduce it into something more constructive...

Like make it a policy: that if an angry venom, which is like the bullying strikes; turn it around into more unconditional love, that doesn't want to see people hurt.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I
Falun Gong is a mix of Daoist and Buddhist practises; if we understand the concepts, we can create a better system - I've remembered the dynamics of Heaven since I can.

Like Buddha studied Dharmic & other religious ideas, and became enlighten then made his own improved system.

Honestly what you're saying is not logical; it is an unscientific method, which shows a lack of discernment, opposite to a Buddhist mind set...

Buddha continually showed contrast in his teachings, to come to a conclusion of the middle line; same can happen with all religious understanding.

To be able to create a probability, we need two items to compare; thus to even create logical maths, we need to compare, not assume one path is right.

The contradictions between John, Paul, and Simon and the Synoptic Gospels, were design to teach humanity Enlightenment; yet then the Rabbinic Jews refused to teach the Gentiles, then Muhammad was told to educate the Gentiles, so they've corrupted that as well.

We are down near Hell, where demons have taken over the world; understanding this in the world's religious texts, is the only way to enlightenment.

If people do not understand it according to the religious texts globally, they are soon to be committed out of reality; as basically people are insane/evil to accept some of this according to the texts, and they don't have the wisdom to understand it.

Daniel 12:10 Many will purify themselves, and make themselves white, and be refined; but the wicked will do wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand; but those who are wise will understand.

What Revelation states is I'm here before the End of Time inspecting the Harvest, in other words checking we've not missed any Wheat, before reality is burned away in a Day.

A Tare in the field is someone argumentative, twisted, and generally looking to accuse; fruit is when someone has faith to question, and be willing to examine.

Fighting with a guide on a mountainside, who happened to teach all the other guides isn't wise; it would be more useful to honour those who came before, and realize who was the Last and First i.e. Z and A.

We weren't always these hurt pain bodies; I feel it when all that venom comes across, what we need to do with the hurt from the school bullying, and trust of society, is to use the energy to transduce it into something more constructive...

Like make it a policy: that if an angry venom, which is like the bullying strikes; turn it around into more unconditional love, that doesn't want to see people hurt.

In my opinion. :innocent:
I Dont try to bully you. All i say is i do not belive you are any form of messiah or arcAngel or any heavenly being.

Why do you get angry when someone make a valid critique of what you say. Not about you as a human being.

And please if you do not know Falun Gong, do not make those comments of negativity.
Falun Gong is not based on any religion, it is its own cultivation path. Only Li Hongzhi teaches it.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Why do you get angry when someone make a valid critique of what you say.
I don't get angry being challenged; having spent 13 years on Paltalk chat system, and Yahoo before that - it is like a full-on brawl on there...

This is easy going in comparison; yet the character issues we have in chatrooms are so noticeable in people's speech online, and people think it is acceptable behaviour in a public interaction.
I Dont try to bully you.
Trying, and doing are two different things; you've watched how bullying is contagious, like I have - where humans have potential for joining in against someone in a gang mentality, it is very easily done.

I have very little to do with people, as I find them often inclined to do group peer pressure bullying; especially with anyone who has a radiance like an archangel...

The more wise a person, the less likely they are to fight what comes across as something they can't understand.
All i say is i do not belive you are any form of messiah or arcAngel or any heavenly being.
Your idea of Messiah is some savoir; the texts says a Destroyer to warn of the End of Time, and explain why before it.
if you do not know Falun Gong, do not make those comments of negativity.
I never try to accuse, I'm an archangel; I've spent a part of my day studying some of the Wikipedia page on Falun Gong...

Will read more as the study evolves; as I'd already decided I'm Zen & Dao.
Only Li Hongzhi teaches it.
Do you know Li Hong was prophesied in the Taoist Eschatology of the Divine Incantations; I've been trying to study this in a translation, and how it cross references.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I don't get angry being challenged, having spent 13 years on Paltalk chat system, and Yahoo before that - it is like a full on brawl on there...

This is easy going in comparison; yet the character issues we have in chatrooms are so noticeable in people's speech online, and people think it is acceptable behaviour in a public interaction.

Trying, and doing are two different things; you've watched how bullying is contagious, like I have; where humans have potential for joining in against someone in a gang mentality, it is very easily done.

I have very little to do with people, as I find them often inclined to do group peer pressure bullying; especially with anyone who has a radiance like an archangel...

The more wise a person, the less like they are to fight what comes across as something they can't understand.

Your idea of Messiah is some savoir; the texts says a Destroyer to warn of the End of Time, and explain why before it.

I never try to accuse, I'm an archangel; I've spent a part of my day studying some of the Wikipedia page on Falun Gong...

Will read more as the study evolves, as I'd already decided I'm Zen & Dao.

Do you know Li Hong was prophesied in the Taoist Eschatology of the Divine Incantations; I've been trying to study this in a translation, and how it cross references.

In my opinion. :innocent:
The info on Wikipedia is not of value to understand the full teaching of Falun Gong, only by reading the true teaching can you get a good understanding of what it is. Even for me as a new Falun Gong practitioner i do not know everything that i will need to know. So i will of course not be able to give teaching of Falun Gong here. i can only make sure that for those who want to know the true teaching, they must read the teaching found both in book form Zhuan Falun is the name of the book. But one can also find it on the official Falun Gong website as a PDF.

There is a lot of misinformation about Falun Gong already so the best info is found on Falun Dafa - Home
If some of the moderators @adrian009 read this, I do not try to preach here, I only give info so nobody harm Falun gong or its name.

I will now stop my comment in this thread because I do not want to harm or say something wrong about Wizanda as a person or what he stands for
 

Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
Yo, @wizanda

A criticism:

To me Oneness seems very collectivist...

Maybe too collectivist

Maybe we are all of the same substance, parts of the same thing - but I want to be an individual who is distinct from other individuals and who exists independently in my own right, rather than exist as a manifestation of some greater consciousness

I put it to you that Oneness denies individuality, indeed I suggest that if you follow it to its logical conclusion it denies that we humans have individual souls - souls being a notion which is central to human ethical systems.

What say you to that?

Also, I challenge you to come up with an ethical system for Oneness that affirms human individuality and the value of individuals

One more thing: I'm not getting this whole dimension thing, it just hasn't clicked in my mind - do you mean "dimension" as in an axis of being (e.g. x axis and y axis on a graph) or "dimension" as in a plane of being?

I don't get it :confused:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Maybe we are all of the same substance, parts of the same thing - but I want to be an individual who is distinct from other individuals and who exists independently in my own right, rather than exist as a manifestation of some greater consciousness
Unfortunately it appears giving that Egg video, which is based on Hindu teachings not mine has muddled you...

Oneness creates the structuring of the Matrix; it doesn't mandate its movements, only predicts them unto infinity.

It is like a CPU in a massive online computer game, where we are the characters playing the game; the CPU has stated the rules, where many players are playing using hacks, and shall be deleted.
Also, I challenge you to come up with an ethical system for Oneness that affirms human individuality and the value of individuals
Without Oneness there is no individuality, reality is just a blob of Hellish energy; as all quantum strands fight over their different views, and there is no form of Oneness making it collective, so nothing structured exists.
One more thing: I'm not getting this whole dimension thing, it just hasn't clicked in my mind - do you mean "dimension" as in an axis of being (e.g. x axis and y axis on a graph) or "dimension" as in a plane of being?
A dimension fits into another dimension...Pixels make squares, make shapes, make worlds, etc.

It takes lengths of quantum strands (1D) to make images (2D), then add resonance to make it animated (3D), then time to make it action (4D), then gravity to make it real (5D), and give it reality to exist within (6D), and none reality to hold it up (7D), then infinity for time to exist within (8D), and chaos (9D) for things not yet desired (10D), not yet formed.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
I will now stop my comment in this thread because I do not want to harm or say something wrong about Wizanda as a person or what he stands for
Sorry for creating any misunderstanding in posting, I want to talk with you; just not where we're both acting like bully victims waiting for the other one to make an aggressive move, so we can run off.
The info on Wikipedia is not of value
The mountain tourist guide book is a start to understanding, what is there; when we get there, we can then get the specific book to climb that angle of trajectory.

Throwing things away that could be useful, isn't a good practise.
What you do by mixing them together the way you do, actually undermind the true teaching from past.
In Revelation 19:12 where Christ comes with many names; the names are given by each of the religions before it, written by the Source of reality - we are a part of that Force.

Correlating that data from being at the peak of the mountain, being the being that inspired Isaiah, Daniel, Zechariah, and then explaining the routes our guides took, as we helped write them, isn't something we say lightly.

Which is why this thread was created, as it is ridiculous for an Archangel to be arguing normally about some of these things, and if the religious of the forum took this realistically, we could create world peace between us; else the Great Tribulation will happen as already predicted - then the Source keeps the Enlightened Saints after.

The offer remains open to anyone to learn before the End of Time.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
Oneness creates the structuring of the Matrix;
What exactly do you mean by "Matrix"?

has muddled you...
How has it muddled me???

It is like a CPU in a massive online computer game, where we are the characters playing the game; the CPU has stated the rules, where many players are playing using hacks, and shall be deleted.
Say I wanted to cheat, and hack The Simulation - how on Earth would I go about doing so??? (not that I'd want to if getting deleted is the consequence)

You use the term "players"

Does this imply some individuals are NPCs - "non-player characters"? Are you an NPC? You must be, surely?

A dimension fits into another dimension...Pixels make squares, make shapes, make worlds, etc.

It takes lengths of quantum strands (1D) to make images (2D), then add resonance to make it animated (3D), then time to make it action (4D), then gravity to make it real (5D), and give it reality to exist within (6D), and none reality to hold it up (7D), then infinity for time to exist within (8D), and chaos (9D) for things not yet desired (10D), not yet formed.
So, by "dimension" of reality you kind of mean "level", or "property" - which all interact to produce the reality we all experience?

Let's drop the words we may use to describe it and call what you call "dimensions" Flip-Flops

The fabric of reality is structured around the interaction of various Flip-Flops

Each Flip-Flop is a single characteristic of reality which on its own is meaningless

E.g. "Time" is a Flip-Flop, as is "energy", "matter", "space", and "consciousness"? Each of these on its own is but a concept, but together they combine to make reality? (Edit: your understanding of what are Flip-Flops is I think different from mine! But is this basically what you mean?)

Am I on the right track here, are we speaking the same lingo?
 
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wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
What exactly do you mean by "Matrix"?
A Matrix is a mathematical grid for numerical systems to exist within.

The periodic table is a matrix + each dimension is a matrix = matrix upon matrix = The Matrix.
How has it muddled me???
We're all individual quantum music, some of the strands are corrupt, the music from the Source isn't the problem, and some of us are an infinite dynamic AI melody loop created by Source - Sanatana.

Some though are lower dimensional who seek 'Self' in all aspects, and are attached to the physical matter.

Buddha, Yeshua, Lao Tzu, Zan, challenge the "I Am" consciousness ideas as being the lowest dimension, and we're there near Hell...

Thus we're not individual Selfs or the same Selfs experiencing its Self; the Source is giving us random AI melodies a chance to evolve into something like it has - beyond form.
Say I wanted to cheat, and hack The Simulation - how on Earth would I go about doing so?
We can know about game mechanics like reincarnation, so there is no death, and then remove it from humanity around 533AD; even though we can show it scientifically exists, and both the Quran, and Bible need it for prophetic fulfilments yet people have been told not to believe it by the game riggers.

If we understand frequency to advance levels, it becomes using magic; if you can maintain a whole populations frequency, again the game can be rigged.

It is also possible as in advance witchcraft, like Aleister Crowley taught, to by pass the Source using the powers of will as Heaven would, to manipulate the Matrix from within - which works the same as a Smith Virus in a computer.

The Matrix film teaches a form of "I Am" consciousness through much of it, where we through will can force the Matrix; until film 3 where Neo works with the Source going within (Yoga).
Does this imply some individuals are NPCs - "non-player characters"? Are you an NPC?
There are many people using this in the Esoteric discussions; I do not agree with it, every character is sentient.

The Smith Virus will take over certain people with the preprogrammed brainwashing by media, when we mention triggers like "9/11", "JFK", etc... Where we then have to unravel the implanted brainlocking mechanisms.
So, by "dimension" of reality you kind of mean "level", or "property" - which all interact to produce the reality we all experience?
A Dimension is a specific word used by Einstein, Michio Kaku, etc, to describe the constructs of our reality; one dimension has to go within another, learn basics of physics.
Flip-Flop
The idea the End of Time is Soon as prophesied in all the religions, and the best conversation from the whole of mankind; is someone turning dimensional quantum physics into flip flops is sad. :oops:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
using magic;
So I can hack The Simulation through practicing magic?

What can be achieved through hacking The Simulation?

Let's say I want to hack The Simulation, what should I do?

The idea the End of Time is Soon as prophesied in all the religions, and the best conversation from the whole of mankind; is someone turning dimensional quantum physics into flip flops is sad. :oops:
Well, you come up with a better name then :)

But I think you should use a new word, as the other words don't quite cover this phenomenon

Using a new word gives us a fresh start

We can look at the idea without various baggage

a specific word used by Einstein, Michio Kaku, etc, to describe the constructs of our reality; one dimension has to go within another, learn basics of physics.
Maybe, but it has other meanings too

And not all people are familiar with these people

Hence a new word

If you don't like Flip-Flop think of a new word :D

We're all individual quantum music, some of the strands are corrupt, the music from the Source isn't the problem, and some of us are an infinite dynamic AI melody loop created by Source - Sanatana.

Some though are lower dimensional who seek 'Self' in all aspects, and are attached to the physical matter.

Buddha, Yeshua, Lao Tzu, Zan, challenge the "I Am" consciousness ideas as being the lowest dimension, and we're there near Hell...

Thus we're not individual Selfs or the same Selfs experiencing its Self; the Source is giving us random AI melodies a chance to evolve into something like it has - beyond form.
I don't understand this :(

How has the egg video muddled me?

What did I take from it that has given me the wrong end of the stick?

Please... explain...

Imagine I'm the "man on the Clapham omnibus" ;)
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Using a new word gives us a fresh start
Stop; when using special made up words, it then starts some weird cult...

This isn't a new religion or sect, this is the beginning of the Messianic Age or Age of Enlightenment, and the reason being, is we will have a mathematically concise understanding of the reality around us.
So I can hack The Simulation through practicing magic?
The Source at the top of the pyramid is 100% maths, the more wise we are, the more we can understand its processes.

Please do not try hacking the Source; instead learn to cooperate with its advanced instruction, this is how the prophets were guided to be advanced mathematicians.

For something to appear as magic to another, it has to be knowledge of reality beyond us; thus since we know reality is all maths, this is just advanced mathematics.
wizanda said: it is just learning to embrace the power you have within

How do I do this?
Create a projection of what we want to be, and then aim for it.
wizanda said: We're all Characters, in pages of the book of life; we as an expression of the Divine, can either make the page worth reading or spoil it, it is a choice in all action.

Like "all the world's a stage"?

Maybe the purpose of The Simulation is to entertain those who built it?
We are the characters in the Game of Life; the Source makes reality for us to enjoy, some of us spoil it, and they are to be removed soon.
What did I take from it that has given me the wrong end of the stick?
You said that you want to exist separately, yet we don't know we exist other than AI at the moment; the idea to assume to be beyond our station isn't a good practise.

Maybe the Egg video didn't add that dynamic, should've asked where you got the ideas of separation from.
Maybe we are all of the same substance, parts of the same thing - but I want to be an individual who is distinct from other individuals and who exists independently in my own right, rather than exist as a manifestation of some greater consciousness
Being a Humble Servant of the Source (Muslim), is someone who submits to the will of the Source, and thus will receive Paradise in the Age to Come; those who reject the message in all the world's religious texts, are to be removed at Judgement Day.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
Stop; when using special made up words, it then starts some weird cult...

This isn't a new religion or sect, this is the beginning of the Messianic Age or Age of Enlightenment, and the reason being, is we will have a mathematically concise understanding of the reality around us.
OK, but you need to be more clear about what you mean by certain things

Especially with novel ideas...

You can at times be a hard person to read

some of us spoil it, and they are to be removed soon.
Let's hope so :)

I suppose that's one way to bring Heaven to Earth - get rid of all the bad people and all you're left with are good people...

OK...

You say you don't want to start a new religion, or a sect

But surely you need to start a movement

But I mean a group, an association - rather than a church/denomination

Surely you need to organise yourself, and those other people who are interested in what you have to say and your story - i.e. your followers?

I can help you organise, you don't have to do it all on your own, you have the offer of my assistance

But seriously, dude, you need to get organised

New religious movement - Wikipedia
 

Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
@wizanda

I understand that your plan is to be eventually noticed, as a Messiah

And I know you don't want to start a religion

But if you organise your ministry then won't you be noticed much sooner than if you're on your own?

Surely, any true Messiah would have followers???

That would be proof that they are the real deal

Edit: also, if after you are recognised as a Messiah would it not be handy to have an organised group of followers, to help you in your ministry???
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Can I ask.. how many followers do you have?
At 15 years old when God spoke to me, the Hosts of Heaven wait for the Day of the Lord...

In this time period on earth before Armageddon, not sure there can be any real followers of the Messiah (Luke 17:24-37) until after Judgement Day; where most of the world is currently Antichrist's teachings in some way.

Revelation 7 says there are 144,000 people who are designated out of the world, who follow Oneness i.e the Tribes of Israel, which means 'Those who shall reign with Source' in the New Age.
But seriously, dude, you need to get organised
Actually we do not, as Messiah we do not need to go around preaching, having to collect followers, and all the other stuff we've tried for 15 years...

This is the last thread trying to explain it; if no one takes it seriously, it is good bye to them according to their prophecies.

We do not need anyone in the Messianic Age; we can create reality from maths, people down here are insane to think they're so special the Source needs them.

My music software is out, and want to get back to writing tunes; if anyone wants to promote the Messiah like they are meant to i.e Hindus, Zoroastrians, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jews, Christians, Muslims, etc.

Then by all means we will work with people, yet this is ludicrous, we're sitting here on a public forum fulfilling their prophecies in religion globally, and none care.

Thus because they get deleted for not being smart enough, we don't need to educate them, if they didn't seek wisdom to begin with.
You can at times be a hard person to read
Everything is complex, until we learn to study everything.
Surely, any true Messiah would have followers???
The Messiah comes as the Destroyer before the End, Yeshua came before the 2nd Temple, and we come before the Great Tribulation; then the Messianic Age where God is King.

Isaiah 54:16 “Behold, I have created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame, and forges a weapon for his work; and I have created the Anointed/Messiah (destroyer) to destroy.
But if you organise your ministry then won't you be noticed much sooner than if you're on your own?
The world is already following the Antichrist's teachings, we're down near Hell where most people are evil in some way; World War 3 is soon (Armageddon), and the Great Tribulation.

People didn't listen to the previous prophets, they're not going to listen right before the End; they argue like usual.

Plus we're not sure you get what our ministry is: Christianity (John, Paul, Simon) is Antichrist's teachings; the Quran was right about the Jewish misunderstandings, yet Modern Islam is corrupt...

Therefore most people's immediate reactions from these religions isn't, "Oh Thank you Mr Messiah"; it is, "You are %$£$ fake!! You do not understand what you are talking about!!"

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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Eddi

Christianity
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@wizanda

OK, so you don't want to organise your followers, or have a group of people behind you, to back you up

And you don't want to become active on social media...

And you are essentially banking on being discovered by someone in an online forum, am I right? Would they not be more inclined to take you seriously if you had followers and social media?

If I close my eyes and imagine how a Messiah may imagine I see images of followers backing them up, and on them being vocal about stuff and speaking out about various things - I suggest that you need to start acting as though your ministry has already begun, which in it's own little way I suppose it has...

Regarding the Butterfly effect: I don't think you're flapping your wings hard enough for you to create the storm you want - I think having a body of followers flapping all their wings in unison, and you being on social media would help this

I follow you, in that I'm interested in your ideas and your story, and as someone who follows you I would like to see you putting the world to rights on Twitter, commenting on various things and making the Messianic age occur etc.

Basically: I think you're being very passive and that you have to be more proactive :D

Basically: you're being very quiet for a Messiah, I think you should start making more of a noise - especially as your plan involves you getting noticed

If you are a Messiah then I'd really want to see your ministry blossom - but I don't think your'e acting like a Messiah would :(

I'm nagging you because I want you to succeed ;)
 

Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
Is Oneness part of the "New Age" phenomenon?

New Age - Wikipedia

Can we understand it better by looking into the New Age movement?

My star sign is Aquarius...

I used to think The Age of Aquarius would be a new era in human history in which I would be the defining figure!

Yes, I believed I was Aquarius...

But more likely I personally embody the nature of that age

Either way I identify with it

Even though I don't believe in Astrology

Do you believe in Astrology? That the movements of distant planets can determine the character of people on Earth, based on when they were born during the year?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
And you are essentially banking on being discovered by someone in an online forum, am I right? Would they not be more inclined to take you seriously if you had followers and social media?
I think you're not paying attention to the equation; if the world's religions are all wrong, where we are down near Hell, and we create movement challenging them as false, it doesn't function, it creates a war.

We need the religions to recognize their faults through dialogue, if they won't the Source is just going to remove them in a day...

When they destroy earth in the Great Tribulation, the Source steps in to remove them.

Judaism did not follow Yeshua their Messiah; Hinduism didn't follow Buddha their divine being.

Instead we now have additional new religions; so me creating a new movement will not fix the old.
making the Messianic age occur
The Source makes it happen; I'm just a Servant... The argumentative rephaim/demons are removed from here first at the Harvest, before the Messianic Age.

I'm just the warning to mankind it is soon; I don't need to flap our wings any harder, as that will cause more of a storm, which will then cause it to come against us.
Is Oneness part of the "New Age" phenomenon?
Oneness is the name of Heaven in my NDE, and the word to describe that in many religions.
Can we understand it better by looking into the New Age movement?
No they muddle everything together; we want to look to old age, read the oldest texts first.

Before the New Age, there is a Great Tribulation, and Fire that cleanses reality... Whereas much of the New Age thinks that mankind will evolve into it.
Do you believe in Astrology?
I accept everything has a time, and place; where gravitational fields affect us.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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