Gambit
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I might have a rebuttal if you answer the questions.
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Why does God allow evil?
- Thread starter Gambit
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I might have a rebuttal if you answer the questions.
You make the assumption that Christianity is true. Under this assumption, you are right. But I would also be right to explain things in terms of blue fairies if I made the assumption that blue fairies existed.
And if you think I am ridiculing God by comparing it to blue fairies, consider that they both have the sane objective evidence of existing. So, why should we consider one more plausible than the other?
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I'm pretty sure you haven't, but fire away on the substantive point if you wish.
Gambit
Well-Known Member
Why are you evading the questions?
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
If that's how you wish to see it .. I realise that patience in adversity is extremely difficult .. blaming Almighty God for the evil of men is in my opinion not worthwhile..
If you say 'God is to blame' to show that there is no 'loving God', that is also not worthwhile .. we will see who is right when the inevitable happens ie. when we die
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I recognise red herrings when I see them. Would you like to respond to the substantive point about the Holocaust.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Almighty God DOES have the final responsibilty ..
That is incorrect .. the scriptures are not fictious .. they are based on reality
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
But you don't know that. You can't prove that they were inspired by God.
What we do know is that there is a terrible amount of suffering in the world, which God is apparently happy to allow.
goodhunter819
Member
Maybe the structure of religious interpretations are incorrect, when some one reads revaluations that a beasts rises from the sea having ten crowns with the face of a lion and tail of a scorpion they laugh because it is not possible right? however the metaphor of a rising power from the sea dose not occur to the average religious mind who reads it literally, not looking at the power being a great oil company or a instillation set up in the sea , in my opinion , in that way a lot of what is read in the bible is misunderstood so, why dose God allow evil? maybe it is a testing of the strengths, since the monotheist god is known for taking the most evil nations who have the power a turning them into the best of goodly practice , for example in the bible god says I shall take away the truths from the house of Israel and give it to the sons of Ishmael... a theoretical reply?
Simplelogic
Well-Known Member
Ok….well, I don't give St. Thomas Aquinas much stock. I would believe him if that was what God says but He doesn't. God does not need evil in order to bring about good. This type of thinking is pagan in origins and has no place in the Hebrew scriptures.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
'Word of God', eh?
Gambit
Well-Known Member
I will take your refusal to respond to the questions asked as your way of conceding the point.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Then from where does it arise? God does not need it, but He allows it to exist. Should not he have done something about it? Paganism does not have Satans. With them it is squarely the failure of the people to observe the right ways (in Hinduism, 'dharma'). It began with Angre Mainyu in Zoroastrianism.
He intervenes whenever He wills, and not when you think that He should
Does an omniscient god know in advance that it will intervene or is it a fresh new thought or idea for it?
Take a second and put some thought into it please.
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Theodore A. Jones
Active Member
"I end up putting my foot in my mouth"_____for the greater good?
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
They contain truth, yes .. 'Word of God' is used by many to describe their beliefs, or creed etc. so I would be careful how you word it..
Equating scripture with 'fairy tales' is just people's claim 'with their mouth' .. fairy tales don't claim to be anything other than fiction, whereas scripture, although not always accurate, is not classified as fiction .. and for a very good reason .. It isn't!
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Good luck with that.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Some thought?!?
I don't even know if I have a reliable answer!
I think perhaps your statement makes no sense
ie. there is no 'in advance' for Almighty God .. He comprehends all instantaneously
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
But it is about beliefs, isn't it? There is no way you can prove that ancient religious texts were inspired by God, they might have been inspired by hallucinogenics for all you know. It's all assumption and wishful thinking, or "faith".
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
So he understands genocides as they occur and does nothing?