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Why does God create people that are going to hell?

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
God is an equal opportunity creator.....with us all having the same opportunity to make our own choices.....The path we follow is up to each individual....

I believe we all control our own destiny, God doesn't make us do anything
 
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HoldemDB9

Active Member
God is an equal opportunity creator.....with us all having the same opportunity to make our own choices.....The path we follow is up to each individual....

I believe we all control our own destiny, God doesn't make us do anything

Are you honestly saying that a child born in Saudi Arabia has the same opportunity to become Christian as a child born in the USA?
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
Are you honestly saying that a child born in Saudi Arabia has the same opportunity to become Christian as a child born in the USA?
Anything is possible with God......There is the distinct possiblility that anyone in any country can change their belief. Same as we have US citizens that are converting to other religions......
We still send missionaries to foreign countries don't we?
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
Every person has the same opportunity to follow christ and gain eternal life and true happiness.

God does not create people with the intent of them going to "hell" that would be a cruel act indeed. All children are born pure and by default fall under the Atonement of Christ untill they are able to be held accountable for thier actions.
 

herushura

Active Member
Hell is not a place of toture, is down not exist in the torah. Hell was created by the pope as a form of propagenda, "Join crusades or go to hell" Hell itself is truely a pagan creation
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
Are you honestly saying that a child born in Saudi Arabia has the same opportunity to become Christian as a child born in the USA?


All of God's children will have the same opportunity to hear the Gospel and either accept or reject Christ.

This is why we (LDS) perform ordinaces for the dead by proxy. because none shall be exempt, all shall have the opportunity and all will confess his name.

There is no way that chrisitanity can sustain itself as the one true religion without some sort of salvation for the dead. Otherwise, God would be a cruel one indeed.
 

herushura

Active Member
chrisitanity can sustain itself as the one true religion without some sort of salvation for the dead. Otherwise, God would be a cruel one indeed.

So you saying, become a christian or Die, this is why i dont take part in these sort of
religion, its all based on the fear of god, and they seam to belive that they can get around this fear by exessive praying, and perfoming odd rituals.

Fear itself is a product of monothesis religion, and its why its populer, Fear can easily turn into anger and ultimatly self-sacrifise.

There is no such thing as a true religion, Chrstianity was created to rival Judaism,
islam was created to rival judaism and chrsitianity.

The monotheses religion is nothing more then a Political Tool, a weapon. because of these religions over a billion of people have being killed. So called Christian killing, torturing children during the cruscades, catholic germans torturing yet more children because they are jews. muslims again slaying thousands on 9/11.

and So called Christians, killing, torturing thousands of meso-americans. In fact its the Jews that seems to be the most peaceful of mono-religions, yet the corrupt Judaism offsprings called Islam and christianity kill millions of jews, even though Judaism is
practicly the mother religion that responsible for islam and christianity in the first place.
 
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madhatter85

Transhumanist
So you saying, become a christian or Die, this is why i dont take part in these sort of
religion, its all based on the fear of god, and they seam to belive that they can get around this fear by exessive praying, and perfoming odd rituals.

Fear itself is a product of monothesis religion, and its why its populer, Fear can easily turn into anger and ultimatly self-sacrifise.

Ont he Contrary, only the wicked need fear, the righteous need not fear at all. My christian faith is based around the eternal nature of families, not a fear of death and hell.
There is no such thing as a true religion, Chrstianity was created to rival Judaism,
islam was created to rival judaism and chrsitianity.
Actually, Christianity and Judaism parted ways at Christ, they were one in the same untill Judasim Rejected Jesus Christ as the Savior of the world and the Only Begotten Son in the flesh.
The monotheses religion is nothing more then a Political Tool, a weapon. because of these religions over a billion of people have being killed. So called Christian killing, torturing children during the cruscades, catholic germans torturing yet more children because they are jews. muslims again slaying thousands on 9/11
My faith asserts that the Authority to act in God's name was taken fromt he earth when the Apostles were hunted down and killed. The acts of Evil men during the dark ages were not the workings of God but in fact just the opposite.

and So called Christians, killing, torturing thousands of meso-americans. In fact its the Jews that seems to be the most peaceful of mono-religions, yet the corrupt Judaism offsprings called Islam and christianity kill millions of jews, even though Judaism is practicly the mother religion that responsible for islam and christianity in the first place.
exactly, "so-called" as you put it perectly. True Christians are disciples and followers of Christ. True chrisitans would not do those things. which is why Christianity as a religion is not responsible for the atrocities that plagued previous generations.

Why do you think it took so long to restore the Gospel? the restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ had to take place during a time where it could grow and prosper, the freedom of religion which we in the U.S. take for granted allowed for the gospel to be restored without genocide. Yes there were persecutions, just as there always will be by the wicked against the righteous. Nobody "Likes" being told they are wrong. But how they handle it (accepting and changing or rebelling and continually persecuting) separates the righteous from the wicked.
 

Polite teen

New Member
God is the Source of Knowledge, Wisdom, Greatness, Mercy and Power.

So the puspose of creation is for Himself Glorified and Exalted be He.

God is our Master and our Lord, the kingdome is His kingdome, the creature are His creature,

23. He cannot be questioned as to what He does, while they are questioned.

56. And I (Allâh) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me.
57. I seek not any provision from them nor do I ask that they should feed Me.
58. Verily, Allâh is the All-Provider, Owner of Power, the Most Strong.
 

herushura

Active Member
Ont he Contrary, only the wicked need fear, the righteous need not fear at all. My christian faith is based around the eternal nature of families, not a fear of death and hell.

Actually, Christianity and Judaism parted ways at Christ, they were one in the same untill Judasim Rejected Jesus Christ as the Savior of the world and the Only Begotten Son in the flesh.

My faith asserts that the Authority to act in God's name was taken fromt he earth when the Apostles were hunted down and killed. The acts of Evil men during the dark ages were not the workings of God but in fact just the opposite.


exactly, "so-called" as you put it perectly. True Christians are disciples and followers of Christ. True chrisitans would not do those things. which is why Christianity as a religion is not responsible for the atrocities that plagued previous generations.

Why do you think it took so long to restore the Gospel? the restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ had to take place during a time where it could grow and prosper, the freedom of religion which we in the U.S. take for granted allowed for the gospel to be restored without genocide. Yes there were persecutions, just as there always will be by the wicked against the righteous. Nobody "Likes" being told they are wrong. But how they handle it (accepting and changing or rebelling and continually persecuting) separates the righteous from the wicked.

Judaism refected christ, because he was a Corrupt and blaspemous.
jesus stole greek traditions, like baptism, reformed and created a cult called
essene, the founder is called Caeserion, Ca-esse-er(ion). the exhiled messiah of egpyt, as he was thrested that he be murdered, he was well knowledged in theology, who knew about the death and ressurection of mithras, and his miraculous virgin birth.

caeserion was called messiah because he was annointed, he was called son of isis,
son of god, heir god who saves(joshua), king of kings, king of israel(JEWS), because his mother was greek/egytpian his father roman, thus made him ruler of all. he was baptist, a egytpian ritual, he was born a virgin from goddess isis, and the son of god(amen). his wife was s'elene, or magda'elene, his half sister, one of a twin, the boy was called didymus ior thomas.

caeserion created a new cult that would deliberly transform the roman empire into the holy roman empire.
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
Judaism refected christ, because he was a Corrupt and blaspemous.
jesus stole greek traditions, like baptism, reformed and created a cult called
essene, the founder is called Caeserion, Ca-esse-er(ion). the exhiled messiah of egpyt, as he was thrested that he be murdered, he was well knowledged in theology, who knew about the death and ressurection of mithras, and his miraculous virgin birth.

caeserion was called messiah because he was annointed, he was called son of isis,
son of god, heir god who saves(joshua), king of kings, king of israel(JEWS), because his mother was greek/egytpian his father roman, thus made him ruler of all. he was baptist, a egytpian ritual, he was born a virgin from goddess isis, and the son of god(amen). his wife was s'elene, or magda'elene, his half sister, one of a twin, the boy was called didymus ior thomas.

caeserion created a new cult that would deliberly transform the roman empire into the holy roman empire.

oh! really? ok then cause you say so. :rolleyes:
 
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