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Why does God hate if people worship other Gods?

robo

Active Member
Quran 4:48 states:

Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.

Exodus 20:3 states:

You shall have no other gods before me.

Either other Gods exist or they do not.

If other Gods exist, then there is no one God.

If other Gods do not exist, why is Allah/Yahweh warning people about non-existent things like a square circle?

What other gods are being referred to in these verses above?
 
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robo

Active Member
Because people tend to worship non-existent things in general.

In what sense are other Gods non-existent?

Are they non-existent like a square circle? A square circle is illogical.

OR

Are they non-existent like ice is before water is frozen? Non existence of ice is not illogical like a square circle.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
TO play devil's advocate, it would bug me batty if my son declared his imaginary friend to be his actual mama.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
So if you were the Almighty....(you can see this...yes you can)....
and the crowd before You bend their knees to something less...
is there a saving grace in their actions?

Any cause to let them follow You?....if they prefer something less?

And if You posses the power of creation....alone...
then worshiping someone not as able, makes no sense.

If you (a follower) are seeking security in the next life....
then any knee bending to something less would be....
hazardous to your spiritual health.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
So if you were the Almighty....(you can see this...yes you can)....
and the crowd before You bend their knees to something less...
is there a saving grace in their actions?

Any cause to let them follow You?....if they prefer something less?

And if You posses the power of creation....alone...
then worshiping someone not as able, makes no sense.

If you (a follower) are seeking security in the next life....
then any knee bending to something less would be....
hazardous to your spiritual health.
Sounds like a petty god and a procrastinating follower to me.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
A rose by any other name is still a rose. No matter what you call God, s/he is still God.

That being said, men wrote the Bible and they are P1SSED that you have the temerity to disagree with them. It's their way of the highway, and not the King's Highway, if you catch my drift. :D
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
I don't see how this slight of insult reduces my post.
Care to stick you neck out a little further?
The god you propose is weak/petty in that it becomes jealous, especially a god of creation, which could easily create things to worship itself. The followers you propose are procrastinating in that they seek life beyond the one in front of them, clinging to a world forever in the future.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
The god you propose is weak/petty in that it becomes jealous, especially a god of creation, which could easily create things to worship itself. The followers you propose are procrastinating in that they seek life beyond the one in front of them, clinging to a world forever in the future.

God with feelings would be weak?...as if emotion is a weakness?
The jealousy you mention is indeed reported in the bible...
but is of intellectual means as I noted in previous post.
That's not a weakness.

Procrastination?....guilty as charged.
I work long hours and sit when I can.

Forever waiting for a world in the future?...nay.
The kingdom is at hand.
My last breath is pending.
 

robo

Active Member
So if you were the Almighty....(you can see this...yes you can)....
and the crowd before You bend their knees to something less...
is there a saving grace in their actions?


Any cause to let them follow You?....if they prefer something less?

And if You posses the power of creation....alone...
then worshiping someone not as able, makes no sense.

If you (a follower) are seeking security in the next life....
then any knee bending to something less would be....
hazardous to your spiritual health.

How less is the "something less" and how unable is the "someone not as able"? Is it less/unable as in non-existent? Is it non-existent like a square circle or is it non-existent like ice is before water is frozen?
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
God with feelings would be weak?...as if emotion is a weakness?
The jealousy you mention is indeed reported in the bible...
but is of intellectual means as I noted in previous post.
That's not a weakness.
Emotion is a weakness, particularly jealousy. Jealousy stems from fear and feelings of inadequacy. Does your God fear, or believe itself inadequate, and if so, why? Why would the most powerful thing fear or feel less than perfect?

Procrastination?....guilty as charged.
I work long hours and sit when I can.

Forever waiting for a world in the future?...nay.
The kingdom is at hand.
My last breath is pending.
It's a nice day, isn't it? :D
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
How less is the "something less" and how unable is the "someone not as able"? Is it less/unable as in non-existent? Is it non-existent like a square circle or is it non-existent like ice is before water is frozen?

In the scheme of superlatives....
bigger, faster, stronger, more intelligent, and greatly experienced.
Coupled with the power of creation...stacked deck.

The bible speaks of angels, but offers little description....somewhat like...
'...Man was created a little less than the angels...'
Otherwise, the common artistic display is.... sword in hand.

We leave this world naked.
Anyone standing over you will have the advantage....
the language the territory and the scheme of things.

It seems to me consideration is in order.
 

robo

Active Member
In the scheme of superlatives....
bigger, faster, stronger, more intelligent, and greatly experienced.
Coupled with the power of creation...stacked deck.

The bible speaks of angels, but offers little description....somewhat like...
'...Man was created a little less than the angels...'
Otherwise, the common artistic display is.... sword in hand.

We leave this world naked.
Anyone standing over you will have the advantage....
the language the territory and the scheme of things.

It seems to me consideration is in order.

So, other Gods exist but are not as powerful as Allah/Yahweh. Is that a fair representation of your position?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
So, other Gods exist but are not as powerful as Allah/Yahweh. Is that a fair representation of your position?

It may be fair enough to say...there is only one Creator.
If that ability is shared, it would need be shared by those of similar mind and heart.
Otherwise, the next life would be chaotic...altogether.
 

robo

Active Member
It may be fair enough to say...there is only one Creator.
If that ability is shared, it would need be shared by those of similar mind and heart.
Otherwise, the next life would be chaotic...altogether.

So, what your God is meaning when he says:

"You shall have no other gods before me."

is actually - "there are other Gods but I am the only one creator God. So, better worship me."

So, there is like a hierarchy of Gods out there. On top of the pyramid is the Creator God. Then there are lesser Gods?
 
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Thief

Rogue Theologian
So, what your God is meaning when he says:

"You shall have no other gods before me."

is actually - "there are other Gods but I am the only one creator God. So, better worship me."

So, there is like a hierarchy of Gods out there. On top of the pyramid is the Creator God. Then there are lesser Gods?

I have posted as such so many times.

We have hierarchy in this world.
Should we not expect the same in the next?

I do not expect a lofty position dealt, as I stand up from this dust I have walked in.
I am not seeking any crown.

It would be sufficient that Someone cares enough to hand me a robe....
and allow me to follow.

A ring on my finger, as a gesture of belonging, would be nice.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Either other Gods exist or they do not.

If other Gods exist, then there is no one God.

If other Gods do not exist, why is Allah/Yahweh warning people about non-existent things like a square circle?

What other gods are being referred to in these verses above?

a god can be anything we set our devotion to, and anything we put our hope in.

If we carve an image and begin praying to that image, the image becomes a god to us because we are setting our attention on it and placing our hope in it. God does not want us to turn to lifeless gods, he wants us to turn to him because he is our life giver and only he can help us.

There are so many false gods that humans look to and worship. in the days of Isreal they looked to the god Molech and the Baal gods and the egyptian gods Horus and Ra and a host of other man made gods.

christians look to mary and pray to the so called 'saints'... the muslims pray to mecca 5 times a day and they pilgrimage to a box containing a meteorite and pray to it.

But God wants us to turn our attention to him alone because he alone is the only true God and the only one who can actually do anything for us.
 
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