Why Does God Hate Sex?

[Skwim]

In that case keep your studied ignorance to yourself.

*Tee* *Hee*

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[A Vestigial Mote]

What makes you think I write them off as a lost cause?

Your judgmental attitude and the fact that that brings with it a "holier-than-thou" air to any relationship you might foster with these types of people you so clearly look down upon. Just like it is hard to maintain that smile for the photographer who just can't seem to figure out what they are doing with their stupid camera - you think your judgment and contempt doesn't show in your interactions? You think you're all just love and glowing? Not with the words you're spouting off here.

Oh please.....humanity bashing? Is it humanity bashing to state the obvious?

You seem to be missing a rather obvious lesson to be learned in dealing with your fellow humans. Ever hear the saying "perception is reality?" What that means is that people are going to feel the way they feel about your behavior and attitude toward them, even you "didn't mean it that way." For example, let's say I have a portly friend, and I figure that since it is a simple truth that he is overweight, it won't hurt to simply "state the obvious," right? That's your point of view, isn't it? So I tell him the truth that he's overweight - and then I am shocked and appalled that he gets offended or hurt by that. What am I? An idiot? Yes... in that scenario, yes I am.

Point being, there are ways to treat people with respect and love on them that don't involve constantly shoving their shortcomings in their faces. Too many people are too busy being like you, however, and making everyone feel like crap and turn away from you and people like you. They then shun your crappy book and decide they can "go it on their own," because it is all too obvious they don't want to stick around to hear how terrible they are. You talk about wisdom and bringing it to the masses. Haha... good luck with that.

 

[Audie]

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Excerpted from an interesting blog by Steve Mason in the Huffington Post

"Sex is funny in that you can live without it, but not without paying a mental/physical price. It’s a simple pleasure that grows all out of proportion when it’s denied. If Mother Nature were allowed to have her way, this would be a far better place. And who’s behind all the brouhaha? God? Actually, it’s religion.

In order to run a successful religion, you need to follow just one rule: Have more members coming in than going out. One way to achieve this is by gaining control of their sex lives. Try to think of a religion that doesn’t have anything to say about sex. Get a grip on that one single, chemically driven aspect of life and you will have a stranglehold on your flock. The more they try to avoid it, the more they’re going to be drawn to it, and the more they’re going to feel like sinners, and the more they’re going to need you to save them. Tell people sucking lemons is evil and they won’t suck lemons and they won’t need you. Tell people sex is evil and you’ll have them stuck in a revolving door.

Now here’s the rub and the real reason I get so provoked by people who have been bamboozled into believing that copulation without at least 50 strings attached is anything but normal human behavior. The truth is that violence seems to be inversely proportional to the availability of sex. Remember generations of coaches who told the team to avoid love so they’d be full of hate for the big game? Look at riots in the street and what do you see? Mostly young, testosterone-filled males throwing bricks. Look at guys flying planes into buildings. Would they do it if it weren’t for the 79 virgins? And why do you suppose there’s such a premium on virgins? The male’s lack of experience leads to a lack of confidence, and that, in turn, leads to a raging fury against experience and confidence — so let’s find someone with neither. The weird part is that so many terrorists truly believe America is swimming in sex. If they only knew that it gets so much attention only because there’s so little action.

British comedian Eddie Izzard does a very funny and very insightful routine that involves God laying down the laws of mating. The dogs are told to do it doggie-style. The dogs go away happy. The cats are also told to do it doggie-style. The cats aren’t really happy about that, but when are cats really happy about anything? The salmon are told about swimming upstream, struggling over dams and crashing into rocks only to die at the end. Bummer. And finally, the humans are told they can do it pretty much anyway they like — as long as they feel guilty. So I get comments from obviously guilty readers telling me how scary sex really is and providing laundry lists of things that can go wrong while rolling in the hay. That God ever invented sex in the first place was clearly a mistake, so they create caveats that will at least make it as unpleasant as possible.

However, if anything, it’s a lack of sex that can be deadly. The British Medical Journal reported on a long-term study of nearly 1,000 men between the ages of 45 and 59. In our culture of scary sex, it’s perhaps not too surprising that the findings have not received the attention they deserve. You see, the data showed that the amount of sexual activity enjoyed by a man is directly proportional to both his health and longevity. Men who reported twice as much sex were half as likely to die prematurely.
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Thoughts?

Mine is a question. If god's attitude toward sex is truly not a concoction of religious leaders, but his very own, then what is his problem with it? According to the Bible god doesn't like prostitutes, homosexuality, bestiality, consensual adultery (all adultery is bad), marrying a divorced woman, premarital sex, lust, sensuality, semen, etc. etc..

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Al Pacino, in the role of Satan here, explains it perfectly.

"God" does not hate sex; that is not it, at all.

 

[Deeje]

Your judgmental attitude and the fact that that brings with it a "holier-than-thou" air to any relationship you might foster with these types of people you so clearly look down upon.

I see people for what they are, but it isn't my place to judge them as worthy of my time and attention or not. My experience was dealing with any of those who needed help and giving it in any way that I thought it was appropriate....from giving them and their kids free haircuts to making their kids clothes or PJ's....to helping them make healthier choices for their food. Teaching them how to cook good meals for their families. Showing them how to be communicative parents.

It appears as if you like to do your own bit of judging there VM. You were not there so how would you know?
I have met some wonderful people in my ministry, some of whom are now part of my spiritual family.

Just like it is hard to maintain that smile for the photographer who just can't seem to figure out what they are doing with their stupid camera - you think your judgment and contempt doesn't show in your interactions? You think you're all just love and glowing? Not with the words you're spouting off here.

Assumptions again. I assure you that my concern for these ones was genuine. I had great affection for many of them and their children....but some were entrenched in their ways and it was hard to motivate them. We can only offer so much, but when we see no intentions to change their attitudes or behaviors, we eventually have to let them go and "shake the dust off our feet" and move on as Jesus said to do. You can't help people who can't or won't help themselves.

You seem to be missing a rather obvious lesson to be learned in dealing with your fellow humans. Ever hear the saying "perception is reality?" What that means is that people are going to feel the way they feel about your behavior and attitude toward them, even you "didn't mean it that way." For example, let's say I have a portly friend, and I figure that since it is a simple truth that he is overweight, it won't hurt to simply "state the obvious," right? That's your point of view, isn't it? So I tell him the truth that he's overweight - and then I am shocked and appalled that he gets offended or hurt by that. What am I? An idiot? Yes... in that scenario, yes I am.

I get the impression that this is what you are doing to me.....you have formed a perception of me and reacted accordingly.....yet all I am is a voice with an opinion on an internet forum.....you don't know me at all. I have to wonder what other 'perceptions' are your 'reality'?

Point being, there are ways to treat people with respect and love on them that don't involve constantly shoving their shortcomings in their faces.

Wow! What a revelation! You think I just fronted up and told them that they were morons who needed to shape up or God was going to give them what for!....?

See...there you go with your assumptions again.....I assure you that I treated them with as much respect as I could muster in their circumstances. (Jude 22) I showed them what unselfish love means.....it means not always having your hand out, but actually looking for ways to help others. "Victims" have a hard time with that concept. It takes patience to teach it and some actually manage to extract themselves out of the mire of victimhood. Its the "teach the man to fish" mentality and its powerful for transforming lives. Its a 'hand up' they need...not a 'hand out'.

Too many people are too busy being like you, however, and making everyone feel like crap and turn away from you and people like you. They then shun your crappy book and decide they can "go it on their own," because it is all too obvious they don't want to stick around to hear how terrible they are. You talk about wisdom and bringing it to the masses. Haha... good luck with that.

Like a lot of people who can't see past their own prejudices, are you falling back into a smug kind of attitude judging "people like me".......what about "people like you"?

 

[nPeace]

No, actually study rather than ripping verses out of context. Put in the hard yards. Look at the Hebrew and Greek, study the culture.

Some people just can't seem to help it.
As the good lord said, "Forgive them. For they know not what they do."
Then forget it.

 

[nPeace]

I really do believe I used it right.

When I was sixteen, my dad said "I'm going to make a man out of you", took to a high-rise, purchased a woman and we had sex. No love, an abuse of a woman who had no options (in Venezuela), a violation of what "sex" was suppose to be made of. Messed up my life too, for a season.

That's just plain sex, a violation as much as it is when a 14 year old is used in Thailand or a 3 year old in the States. The only difference is the age.

Intimacy, is the proper expression of sex. It involves love and care. Lust is not a part of it.

I don't think what I say is an abuse but rather a proper expression thereof.

Wow. Sixteen? That's the society today. Sad. It's worst now.
I'm glad you found direction. Some youths don't. They end up in a sick cycle, that only leads to complete ruin.

 

[shunyadragon]

Some people just can't seem to help it.
As the good lord said, "Forgive them. For they know not what they do."
Then forget it.

Well, as far as humans go they know full well what they do.

 

[Kenny]

Wow. Sixteen? That's the society today. Sad. It's worst now.
I'm glad you found direction. Some youths don't. They end up in a sick cycle, that only leads to complete ruin.

That is so true. You can see why my parents got a divorce. Through the divorce, it threw the whole of the family into a tailspin causing abortions, attempted suicide, multiple divorces, drug addictions.... happy to say that all have received Jesus and have found healing.

Those who were drug addicts had a miraculous encounter through Jesus and are free. Those who went through divorces are now happily married. So many other miraculous turn arounds

Even my dad, who gave his life to Jesus in his 70's, married the woman he was living with and did a turn around before having a heart attach and passing away.

The vestiges is one nephew who has given his life to Jesus but still struggles with alcohol and one who still needs a deeper encounter.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Like a lot of people who can't see past their own prejudices, are you falling back into a smug kind of attitude judging "people like me".......what about "people like you"?

All I am saying is that every single person is a separate case, and not all of them are going to respond well to your form of admonishment - whatever it is. And yes, I AM judging Christian perspective and behavior in this regard because no matter how many times I have met and talked to a "nice" pastor or sheep, their true colors on particular over-generalized affairs raises its head. EVERY SINGLE TIME - there have been NO exceptions in my entire life. None. And I'm past thinking on that same line with Christians that I talked about. Every single Christian is NOT a separate case on very specific aspects, and it has very much to do with the requirement that they adhere to an out-dated old piece of literature that they believe is oh-so-special, and also a lot to do with the company they keep, and whose backs they pat while being patted themselves. Yes, I have a prejudice... but it is based in knowledge that Christians can't get away from their doctrine, and their doctrine is terribly flawed. I have no doctrine, and anyone who doesn't, or whose doctrine I do not know as intimately, gets the benefit of the doubt from me. Even Christians do, to some extent... however I have never, EVER been pleasantly surprised by a Christian not having particular views and not always pointing back at The Bible as if it should matter to me. Not once.

 

[sojourner]

Jesus wasn't political, nor was he a social activist

Of course Jesus was political and a social activist. That’s why he was subject to state execution.

 

[sojourner]

The argument is that societies change, therefor the standard of God should change.
Like sand under your feet, the moral landscape alters imperceptibly. Few agreed that "gay marriage" would be acceptable 30 years ago. Few agree that polygamy will be acceptable - but the statistics show that this too will change. One day, who knows - weekend marriages, pederasty and polyamory could become common.

The “standard of God” DOES change. If it doesn’t, there would be no Christians in the world. Or a Bible, for that matter.

 

[sojourner]

Then what is the Christian to do with the following?

"The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8

"...having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever...." 1 Peter 1:23

"For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle [a tiny mark in the original spelling of a word] will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled." Matthew 5:18

"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail." Luke 16:17

"You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you." Deuteronomy 4:2

"Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it." Deuteronomy 12:32

"...if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ." Galatians 1:9-10

"Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar." Proverbs 30:5-6

"If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18-19


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Dismiss them because they don't fit his changing theology?

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Quote-mining is not Illuminative.

 

[sojourner]

Please, with your knee-jerk "out of context" retort. I don't buy it.

You should. He’s right.

Nope, because in their churches the faithful aren't told don't go by the Hebrew and Greek, or study any other culture. They're told to read the Bible, and in English

Their spiritual leaders, however, do that very thing, and they’re the ones entrusted with formulating doctrine.

 

[PruePhillip]

The “standard of God” DOES change. If it doesn’t, there would be no Christians in the world. Or a Bible, for that matter.

The bible's standard of God is in Jesus.
Certainly people have minimized, distorted, extinguished,
dismissed, ridiculed, updated, modernized, politicized and
generally try to negate a lot of what He said and how He
lived - but it doesn't change the "standard of God", just the
standards of people who claim God's name.

 

[nPeace]

Well, as far as humans go they know full well what they do.

Well, if one is a naturalist, they might think that.
However, we are all aware that there is such a thing as imagination.

 

[nPeace]

That is so true. You can see why my parents got a divorce. Through the divorce, it threw the whole of the family into a tailspin causing abortions, attempted suicide, multiple divorces, drug addictions.... happy to say that all have received Jesus and have found healing.

Those who were drug addicts had a miraculous encounter through Jesus and are free. Those who went through divorces are now happily married. So many other miraculous turn arounds

Even my dad, who gave his life to Jesus in his 70's, married the woman he was living with and did a turn around before having a heart attach and passing away.

The vestiges is one nephew who has given his life to Jesus but still struggles with alcohol and one who still needs a deeper encounter.

Well I am glad to hear that all you guys still had something to hold on to. God is good.
Matthew 5:3

 

[sojourner]

The bible's standard of God is in Jesus

Tell that to the Jews.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You raise an excellent point OB. Something you do often

God designed sex to be the manner by which all creatures would reproduce copies of their own species. In the animal kingdom there are no moral laws but the one fathering the offspring are usually the strongest. Nature has a way of sorting that out and keeping the genes free of inbreeding defects. Even today these animals are still beautiful specimens of what God originally made.

When God introduced his laws on marriage, the Israelites were very numerous, as they had been contained in Egypt for a long period of time, so upon their release, God designated them into tribes.

"Under the Law a careful record of genealogies was kept. Family integrity was even more greatly emphasized by the matter of ancestral land inheritance. Genealogies were especially important in the family line of Judah and, later on, in the lineage of Judah’s descendant David. Because of the promise that the Messiah the King would come through these families, the record of family relationship was zealously guarded. And even though polygamy was not abolished by the Law, the family integrity was protected and its genealogy was kept intact by strict laws governing polygamy. In no way was looseness or promiscuity legally tolerated. Sons born of polygamy or concubinage were legitimate, full-fledged sons of the father.

The Law specifically prohibited marriage alliances with the seven Canaanite nations that were to be ousted from the land. (De 7:1-4) Because of failing to observe this command, the nation of Israel was ensnared in the worship of false gods and finally brought into captivity by their enemies. Solomon is an outstanding example of one who sinned in this respect. (Ne 13:26) Ezra and Nehemiah undertook energetic reforms among those of the repatriated Israelites who were contaminating their families and Israel itself by marriage to foreign wives.—Ezr 9:1, 2; 10:11; Ne 13:23-27."
Family — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

So, far from hating sex....God wanted and needed to regulate it.
In the animal kingdom it is self-regulating, but in humans, moral issues come into the equation. Ignoring God's sexual laws also leads to sexually transmitted diseases. We are not physically designed to have more than one sexual partner, so the more partners we have, the more prone we are to contracting them.

We can see that the issue of obeying God's moral laws kept his people genetically separated from the nations around them. His other laws (on hygiene e.g) kept them free from food and water born diseases that plagued other nations. They practiced quarantining, but did not know why. God always has reasons for what he does. Humans are not always aware of them, which is why obedience is a good idea.

I'm not sure what you mean. Is your claim demonstrable in some way? Are you referring to something specific within the male or female body?
Plenty of people, including myself, have been with more than one person and have never contracted any sexual transmitted diseases whatsoever.

 

[SkepticThinker]

God created the sex organs, and he created the nerves and brain that allows for those engaging in sexual intercourse to experience the pleasurable feelings that come from love making. He created the breast, the milk to feed the resulting offspring - which makes them strong ad healthy, and he made the body parts that make and produce semen, and the fluids in the female genitals to receive it.
So how could he hate these?

That wouldn't make sense, not does it make sense to suggest that these organs and the function given them were not a product of intelligent design / special creation.
Why do we experience so much more pleasure from something of lesser importance than eating and drinking, if it was not purposely designed.
Is it not the most complex organ that allows us to enjoy sex?
How could anyone suggest that no intelligent agent was responsible for this? For me, the absurdity is killing.

So it is not sex, or semen, or love-making that God hates, but it is the wrong use of these - obviously encouraged by Satan, the one who wants to corrupt everything that is good.

So depravity was born...
Welcome to the world of ungodly sex - where sex and the sex organ is worshiped, and not treated in the godly way they were designed to be used..
With what results?

The following is abbreviated due to the fact that the amount of words per page is limited.

Crime of passion

Child Sexual Abuse Is a Widespread Problem
From 2009 - 2013, Child Protective Services agencies substantiated, or found strong evidence to indicate that, 63,000 children a year were victims of sexual abuse.

One in 9 girls and 1 in 53 boys under the age of 18 experience sexual abuse or assault at the hands of an adult..

82% of all victims under 18 are female.
Females ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.

[GALLERY=media, 8641]Every_8_Minutes by nPeace posted Aug 12, 2018 at 7:39 PM[/GALLERY]

Child Sexual Abuse Statistics
The prevalence of child sexual abuse is difficult to determine because it is often not reported; experts agree that the incidence is far greater than what is reported to authorities.

Facts about sexual abuse
About 20 million out of 112 million women (18.0%) in the United States have been raped during their lifetime.

In a 2012 maltreatment report, of the victims who were sexually abused, 26% were in the age group of 12–14 years and 34% were younger than 9 years.

Approximately 1.8 million adolescents in the United States have been the victims of sexual assault.

Research conducted by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) estimates that approximately 1 in 6 boys and 1 in 4 girls are sexually abused before the age of 18.

35.8% of sexual assaults occur when the victim is between the ages of 12 and 17.

82% of all juvenile victims are female.

69% of the teen sexual assaults reported to law enforcement occurred in the residence of the victim, the offender, or another individual.


Crime Check: 2018 Has Only Gotten Worse For Children in India
The National Crime Records Bureau’s (NCRB) most recent records, showcasing the rate of crime against children in India in 2016, presents an extremely worrying statistic.

Year - Cases
2013 - 12,363
2014 - 13,766
2015 - 10,854
2016 - 19,765

The records show that while in 2015, 10,854 cases of rape under Section 376 of the IPC and under Sections 4 and 6 of the Protection of Children against Sexual Offences (POCSO) Act were registered pan-India, 2016 saw 19,765 of such cases being registered.

2018
In a mere four months into the year, we have already heard about some of the most brutal acts of rape and torture carried out against children across the country. And these are just the ones that have caught our attention.

Death penalty for rape of minors: President approves ordinance

Rape cases went up by 158 per cent this year in Delhi
2013
NEW DELHI: Delhi has witnessed a surge in crime against women this year with rape cases recording 158 per cent rise while molestation and eve-teasing incidents went up by 600 and over 700 per cent, respectively.

According to statistics released by Delhi Police Commissioner Neeraj Kumar today, the national capital reported 463 rape cases this year till April 15 as against 179 during the same period last year.


Death to Cheating Wives? Take Two
In Bangalore, a twenty-eight year-old woman was set afire by her husband, who believed she had been unfaithful. The woman wrapped her flaming arms around her husband in a fiery embrace, setting him afire as well. The husband and wife are both currently in the hospital, both reportedly fighting for their lives.

Also in Bangalore, another cuckolded husband strangled his allegedly unfaithful wife, then called on the assistance of his friend, to cast his wife's body in the path of a train, hoping this would mask his murderous acts.

The history of man is filled with such stories, where women were raped, beaten, strangled, mutilated and cast out of their homes. In the United States, it is believed that the great majority of domestic marital murders involve the spectre of female infidelity.

Man, 75, Killed Wife Over Infidelity Suspicion
Suspecting infidelity, man shoots wife
Man kills wife over alleged infidelity
Former MCA accused his slain wife of infidelity


Is the problem related to the Bible at all?
Judge for yourself.

Men and women who are married or have sleep-around partners abuse their own children, and go in red light districts and bars for illicit sex.
Men and women who couldn't care less about the Bible or God have sex orgies, and groom children either their own, or stolen.

Does this sound like a Bible problem, or a sex starved world?

I think the demons have pretty much got them where they want them - sex worship.
You can do your research on sex worship, sex magick, tantric sex. Find out why children are prime victims.

Or just simply read the Bible. The answer can be found there too.
You would also find out who is behind persons blaming God and the Bible for this sick world.

What on Earth ... ?

How about leaders of the Catholic Church? How are they with children?

 

[SkepticThinker]

About 15-20 years ago a professor in the US state of Georgia wrote a paper.
He said that in 1900 feminism was offensive to mainstream society. In 1950
homosexuality was in the same situation. He opined that one day child porn or
child sex would be accepted (can't remember which one)
Georgia state legislature couldn't silence the man, but they took a sum out of
the annual budged for that university equal to the professor's salary.

Yet, Georgia was one of the first states in USA to water down child-porn laws.
Eventually, seeing children as sex objects will become mainstream. It will come
either through child right laws, pornography, virtual pornography, cultural wars or
the general commercial and social sexualization of kids. Sadly, this will be as
common as polygamy.

I don't see that happening at all. Quite the opposite, actually.