Why does God not talk to all of us directly.

[Link]

Peace,

I want to hear people's explanation as to why. I think Quran mentions this contention and has an overall response. It links it to the idea of "proof" they are demanding as well.

Before I explain what I understand is the Quran response. I will let people tell me why in per their scriptures or understanding God does not do this with all of humanity.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I've thought about this before. My answer is....

Because, it appears, that God is a highly personal thing, so experiences may differ.

 

[Link]

I've thought about this before. My answer is....

Because, it appears, that God is a highly personal thing, so experiences may differ.

What would be wrong with that?

 

[Soandso]

I hear God speaks to some people directly. I wouldn't be one of them. If God doesn't want to speak to people, assuming he exists, i couldn't imagine why not. It would probably solve a lot of confusion in the world if he did

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

What would be wrong with that?

Nothing.

 

[sayak83]

Peace,

I want to hear people's explanation as to why. I think Quran mentions this contention and has an overall response. It links it to the idea of "proof" they are demanding as well.

Before I explain what I understand is the Quran response. I will let people tell me why in per their scriptures or understanding God does not do this with all of humanity.

Well I have and continue to experience the presence of That which you call God. I feel that one's mind has to be calm, clear and receptive for that Awareness to blossom within.

 

[Link]

I hear God speaks to some people directly. I wouldn't be one of them. If God doesn't want to speak to people, assuming he exists, i couldn't imagine why not. It would probably solve a lot of confusion in the world if he did

Yeah, people wonder this question a lot. I think Quranic layers it's response as to why. I will expand on this later, just waiting for responses first.

 

[Link]

Nothing.

Then it's not a reason to not talk to us.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Then it's not a reason to not talk to us.

What if God, assuming he exists, feels that the best way of reaching some people is in other ways than speaking to them directly, though?

 

[Link]

Well I have and continue to experience the presence of That which you call God. I feel that one's mind has to be calm, clear and receptive for that Awareness to blossom within.

Eh, this is part of it. I agree. But there is more to it.

Why does God not talk to uncalm, blurry, and non-respective mind? I think expanding you might even have a similar explanation to the Quran.

 

[Link]

What if God, assuming he exists, feels that the best way of reaching some people is in other ways than speaking to them directly, though?

That can be a response. But why are the others way better? In what way?

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

That can be a response. But why are the others way better? In what way?

Basically, I'm saying that not everyone may be ready for God to start talking to them. Some may even never really be ready for it.

In such a case, it could make sense, maybe, for God to reach one in other ways.

 

[Link]

Basically, I'm saying that not everyone may be ready for God to start talking to them. Some may even never really be ready for it.

In such a case, it could make sense, maybe, for God to reach one in other ways.

You got it right I think. But why aren't they ready? Would it be harmful for God to do it and in what way? And what are the other ways he can reach out?

 

[sayak83]

Eh, this is part of it. I agree. But there is more to it.

Why does God not talk to uncalm, blurry, and non-respective mind? I think expanding you might even have a similar explanation to the Quran.

It's the same reason why the sun can only be seen in a mirror and not on a unpolished or dirty surface. The light comes, but get scattered in the turbulence of the mind so that the mind cannot recognise the source nor see it within itself.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

But why aren't they ready?

An okay teacher teaches everyone the same way. A great teacher, realizes the additional nuances of each person, and makes sure the courses are understood even if for some, it may require outside-the-norm methods.

Would it be harmful for God to do it and in what way?

I think that some are not ready for God to just pop inside their head with a voice, and start giving them instructions.

And what are the other ways he can reach out?

Through feeling. And through personal life circumstances which lead one a certain way.

 

[Shaul]

Having talked with a good number of people I think it is quite understandable why He wouldn't want to do so. Frankly I'm surprised He even lets some of us to continue to exist.

 

[Link]

@sayak83

This is true. This part of the response of Quran is the issue of veils. Neither God nor Angels nor whatever veil God talks to in the unseen as means of the voice can be recognized in "dirty" "mirrors".

For example, per Quran, if he were to open a gate to heaven for the disbelievers in the time of Mohammad (s), and show them such proofs, they would think sorcery is done upon them by Mohammad (s) and the lanterns therein would be seen as possessing them and intoxicating their vision through sorcery.

But it's more than that, it would be harmful per Quran. It would make us more rebellious because we put be given a proof without us reaching there with vision of love. Nuh (a) expresses this "have you considered that I am on a clear proof and you are blind to it, would we force you to it while you are averse/hateful to it" in Quran.

The ultimate proof, God can show it. But he is saving that proof for day of judgment, and part of it is so every soul get's what it strives for.

I can put simply, there is vision of love and vision of soul without love. If it sees the poof and light of God without love, it will be harmed. So God veils the proof and makes us strive for it in love so that it's beneficial.

God is both unseen and seen.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Peace,

I want to hear people's explanation as to why. I think Quran mentions this contention and has an overall response. It links it to the idea of "proof" they are demanding as well.

Before I explain what I understand is the Quran response. I will let people tell me why in per their scriptures or understanding God does not do this with all of humanity.

If a radio doesn’t have an antenna, good luck getting music out of it.

 

[Link]

If a radio doesn’t have an antenna, good luck getting music out of it.

This is part of it too. God is with every soul, and the guide is with every soul. Satan's minions and the Guide from God tug war between every soul. It's about listening to who and what, and from where we are tuning our "antenna's" too.

 

[Link]

If a radio doesn’t have an antenna, good luck getting music out of it.

This is part of it too. God is with every soul, and the guide is with every soul. Satan's minions and the Guide from God tug war between every soul. It's about listening to who and what, and from where we are tuning our "antenna's

I think that some are not ready for God to just pop inside their head with a voice, and start giving them instructions.

In my view, we have to see the proof of God's light unseen type signs with love, if we don't, it harms us. Since love is through free-will, this vision has to be striven for. Once, we see God's light, it can be as expressed in the following prayer taught by Imam Ali (a):

إِلٰهِي هَبْ لي كَمَالَ ٱلاِنْقِطَاعِ إِلَيْكَ
ilahi hab li kamala alinqita`i ilayka
My Lord, (please) grant me absolute devotion to You

وَأَنِرْ أَبْصَارَ قُلُوبِنَا بِضِيَاءِ نَظَرِهَا إِلَيْكَ
wa anir absara qulubina bidiya'i nazariha ilayka
and illumine the vision of our hearts by the light of their gaze looking towards You

حَتَّىٰ تَخْرِقَ أَبْصَارُ ٱلْقُلُوبِ حُجُبَ ٱلنُّورِ
hatta takhriqa absaru alqulubi hujuba alnnuri
until the vision of our hearts pierces the curtains of light

فَتَصِلَ إِلَىٰ مَعْدِنِ ٱلْعَظَمَةِ
fatasila ila ma`dini al`azamati
to reach the source of greatness,

وَتَصِيرَ أَرْوَاحُنَا مُعَلَّقَةً بِعِزِّ قُدْسِكَ
wa tasira arwahuna mu`allaqatan bi`izzi qudsika
and that our souls become suspended by the majesty of Your Holiness.

إِلٰهِي وَٱجْعَلْنِي مِمَّنْ نَادَيْتَهُ فَأَجَابَكَ
ilahi waj`alni mimman nadaytahu fa-ajabaka
My Lord, (please) appoint me of those who responded to You when You called them,

وَلاحَظْتَهُ فَصَعِقَ لِجَلالِكَ
wa lahaztahu fasa`iqa lijalalika
and at whom You glanced so he swoons before Your Majesty

فَنَاجَيْتَهُ سِرّاً وَعَمِلَ لَكَ جَهْراً
fanajaytahu sirran wa `amila laka jahran
So You speak to him secretly and he works for You openly.