Why does God prevent us from helping one another?

[Ella S.]

The slaughter of non-combatants in Ukraine, Israel, Palestine, Afghanistan, etc. is fairly well known at this point.

The news publishes more death and tragedy every day. People in countries I can't reach suffer from poor infrastructure and corrupt governments. In fact, people suffer from that just a few hours away from where I live, and arguably where I am now.

Natural disasters are getting worse. This is partially due to the fact that global warming is getting worse, but climate change is mostly the fault of a handful of powerful, wealthy elites that I can't do anything to stop. Does the 99% in New Orleans deserve to suffer for what the 1% in Saudi Arabia is doing?

Violent hate crime in my country is on the rise, and that's proportional to the rise in population.

Why doesn't God allow me or anyone else who cares about these issues to prevent them? Why won't God help us put an end to this stream of needless suffering? Does the free will of the perpetrators matter more than the free will of the victims, so much so that even human bystanders are prevented from effective intervention?

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

Because people are the problem and people try to hinder others

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Why doesn't God allow me or anyone else who cares about these issues to prevent them?

The Problem of Evil is non-trivial. Still, I'm curious: how exactly has "God" disallowed effective caring?

 

[Firenze]

The slaughter of non-combatants in Ukraine, Israel, Palestine, Afghanistan, etc. is fairly well known at this point.

The news publishes more death and tragedy every day. People in countries I can't reach suffer from poor infrastructure and corrupt governments. In fact, people suffer from that just a few hours away from where I live, and arguably where I am now.

Natural disasters are getting worse. This is partially due to the fact that global warming is getting worse, but climate change is mostly the fault of a handful of powerful, wealthy elites that I can't do anything to stop. Does the 99% in New Orleans deserve to suffer for what the 1% in Saudi Arabia is doing?

Violent hate crime in my country is on the rise, and that's proportional to the rise in population.

Why doesn't God allow me or anyone else who cares about these issues to prevent them? Why won't God help us put an end to this stream of needless suffering? Does the free will of the perpetrators matter more than the free will of the victims, so much so that even human bystanders are prevented from effective intervention?

If you mean bible god, that is a good question, especially as its son promised that anyone that believed in it could cure all disease and illness. Centuries have shown that this is not true, so my answer to your question is simply - because it doesn't exist.

 

[Kenny]

Why doesn't God allow me or anyone else who cares about these issues to prevent them?

He does

Why won't God help us put an end to this stream of needless suffering?

He will help but help includes the will of man to be helped

Does the free will of the perpetrators matter more than the free will of the victims, so much so that even human bystanders are prevented from effective intervention?

Free will is free will whether you are a perpetrator or a victin

 

[Quintessence]

From a polytheist perspective:

• Because there are many gods
• Because the gods do not revolve around (care about) humans
• Because the gods include aspects of reality humans find unpleasant

 

[SalixIncendium]

Why doesn't God allow me or anyone else who cares about these issues to prevent them?

What makes you think God is preventing you from helping?

Why won't God help us put an end to this stream of needless suffering?

What makes you thing God has the will or even the ability to help with something people are fully capable of doing themselves?

Does the free will of the perpetrators matter more than the free will of the victims, so much so that even human bystanders are prevented from effective intervention?

Prevented by what? Their choice to be a human bystander?

 

[F1fan]

Because people are the problem and people try to hinder others

And humans are what they are because God designed and created them this way (according to religious literalists). If God wanted some better outcome he would have done it better.

As it is I'm sure God is busy with his new planets that aren't constant disappointments. I doubt social services can do anything about it.

 

[Link]

Got to carry hard, and you don't know what will happen if you do.

 

[F1fan]

He does

When and where? Certainly not in children diagnosed with cancers. We don't see parents pray for a cure, we see them take their kids to cancer centers. There may be prayers, but parents know it's never going to be more effective than doctors and medicine.

He will help but help includes the will of man to be helped

This isn't true. How many sincere parents ask for a miracle and none comes? Life on earth for humans is no more special than life for worms and bacteria.

Free will is free will whether you are a perpetrator or a victin

There's no such thing as free will, but even if there was no amount of free will prevents a child dying from cancer. It wasn't their choice, it was an "act of God".

 

[SalixIncendium]

When and where? Certainly not in children diagnosed with cancers. We don't see parents pray for a cure, we see them take their kids to cancer centers. There may be prayers, but parents know it's never going to be more effective than doctors and medicine.

You may wish to reread the question @Kenny was responding to. It's about God allowing people to help, not God helping people directly.

 

[Kenny]

When and where? Certainly not in children diagnosed with cancers. We don't see parents pray for a cure, we see them take their kids to cancer centers. There may be prayers, but parents know it's never going to be more effective than doctors and medicine.

This isn't true. How many sincere parents ask for a miracle and none comes? Life on earth for humans is no more special than life for worms and bacteria.

There's no such thing as free will, but even if there was no amount of free will prevents a child dying from cancer. It wasn't their choice, it was an "act of God".

that is a perspective…. I just don’t agree with it.

 

[Koldo]

The slaughter of non-combatants in Ukraine, Israel, Palestine, Afghanistan, etc. is fairly well known at this point.

The news publishes more death and tragedy every day. People in countries I can't reach suffer from poor infrastructure and corrupt governments. In fact, people suffer from that just a few hours away from where I live, and arguably where I am now.

Natural disasters are getting worse. This is partially due to the fact that global warming is getting worse, but climate change is mostly the fault of a handful of powerful, wealthy elites that I can't do anything to stop. Does the 99% in New Orleans deserve to suffer for what the 1% in Saudi Arabia is doing?

Violent hate crime in my country is on the rise, and that's proportional to the rise in population.

Why doesn't God allow me or anyone else who cares about these issues to prevent them? Why won't God help us put an end to this stream of needless suffering? Does the free will of the perpetrators matter more than the free will of the victims, so much so that even human bystanders are prevented from effective intervention?

I am not sure I understand. Are you asking why God doesn't grant us the power to perform those things?

 

[F1fan]

You may wish to reread the question @Kenny was responding to. It's about God allowing people to help, not God helping people directly.

An omnipresent God is directly involved at all times. The issue is why the God doesn't act versus does act.

The assumption is that God is omnipresent and CAN act at any time. So God not acting when the intervention would result in a preferred outcome is as direct as if God DID act.

 

[F1fan]

that is a perspective…. I just don’t agree with it.

Why not? Indoctrination? You just accepted the dogma you were told is correct?

You aren't answering the question posed in the first post.

It's interesting that so many believers know WHAT they believe, but have little idea WHY they believe it.

 

[Marwan]

Reading judgments on creation from a limited human mind truly hurts my brain.

 

[SalixIncendium]

An omnipresent God is directly involved at all times. The issue is why the God doesn't act versus does act.

The assumption is that God is omnipresent and CAN act at any time. So God not acting when the intervention would result in a preferred outcome is as direct as if God DID act.

Whose assumption? Yours?

It's certainly not mine.

 

[F1fan]

Whose assumption? Yours?

No, the Christians. It's their version of God, their assumptions. It's fair to use their assumptions/beliefs when challenging their claims.

It's certainly not mine.

Nor mine. I don't assume any gods exist.

 

[Kenny]

Why not? Indoctrination? You just accepted the dogma you were told is correct?

Not at all… I didn’t receive Jesus until 28. The world indoctrinated me, The Word cleaned up my thinking

You aren't answering the question posed in the first post.

I didn’t see something that was cogent enough to answer… would you like to repost and rephrase?

It's interesting that so many believers know WHAT they believe, but have little idea WHY they believe it.

LOL… If that makes you happy. It might have been the reason I didn’t answer the other post…

Or maybe

Why does God prevent us from helping one another?

The slaughter of non-combatants in Ukraine, Israel, Palestine, Afghanistan, etc. is fairly well known at this point. The news publishes more death and tragedy every day. People in countries I can't reach suffer from poor infrastructure and corrupt governments. In fact, people suffer from that...

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[Kenny]

No, the Christians. It's their version of God, their assumptions. It's fair to use their assumptions/beliefs when challenging their claims.

No mine and I’m a Christian

Nor mine. I don't assume any gods exist.

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