1robin
Christian/Baptist
God accepts human sacrifices
2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39
God forbids human sacrifice
Deut 12:30,31
Too many verses for the time available.
Because of man's wickedness God destroys him
Gen 6:5,7
Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him
Gen 8:21
This one answers it's self and must have been a typo or something.
Genesis 8:21
New International Version (NIV)
21 The Lord smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: “Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though[a] every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.
There is nothing contradictory about saying I am spanking you because of X and saying I will not spank you again because of X. Changing methods changes nothing. Did you honestly think this one was contradictory? or are you simply copying a list?
Genesis 8:21
New International Version (NIV)
21 The Lord smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: “Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though[a] every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.
There is nothing contradictory about saying I am spanking you because of X and saying I will not spank you again because of X. Changing methods changes nothing. Did you honestly think this one was contradictory? or are you simply copying a list?
Killing commanded
Ex 32:27
Killing forbidden
Ex 20:13
Good night nurse. First let get it right. God has never commanded that we shall not kill. He said that we shall not murder. Murder means to kill without justification. The Hebrew word is translated as murder 35 times in the OT and as kill 5. The context is obvious.
(Piel)
1) to murder, assassinate
2) murderer, assassin (participle)(subst)
(Piel)
1) to murder, assassinate
2) murderer, assassin (participle)(subst)
Ex 32:27
And he said unto them, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+32%3A27&version=KJV
Notice the Hebrew word here was translated as slay. Not Murder. It is Harag and is a compltely different word than in the EX:20.
Also note that it is God who is ordering the killing. The only being that even theoretically would be perfectly able to distinguish justified killing from murder it is God. Not that we are left wondering why. The all important context:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+32%3A27&version=KJV
Notice the Hebrew word here was translated as slay. Not Murder. It is Harag and is a compltely different word than in the EX:20.
Also note that it is God who is ordering the killing. The only being that even theoretically would be perfectly able to distinguish justified killing from murder it is God. Not that we are left wondering why. The all important context:
Exd 32:26
Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who [is] on the LORD'S side? [let him come] unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Exd&c=32&v=1&t=KJV#top
Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who [is] on the LORD'S side? [let him come] unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Exd&c=32&v=1&t=KJV#top
Not only were these people refusing to even claim to be on the side of the God that had delivered them from Egypt, an army, starvation, and parted a sea for them, they literally were worshiping their own Jewelry by dancing naked in front of an image. If that does not merit death then what possibly could? BTW on what basis can you even evaluate the question.
? Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced
Deut 27:22/ Lev 20:17
Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union
Gen 20:11,12/ Gen 17:16
1. This one has many aspects. How could God declare what Abraham did wrong until he issued an injunction against it?
2. Your argument will inevitably be that it was always wrong even before God declared it to be so. Maybe. The injunction against incest is believed to be based on genetics (I however have no idea why God claimed it wrong). However that is only if there is harm produced. I have heard qualified medical experts claim that if the Human Genome was in its early and pristine state that there is very little potential harm. If there was initially a very limited population even geographically it also might be allowed even if potentially harmful.
3. Be this as it may it makes little difference because God many times was forced (by choice, given purpose and revelation) to accept non optimal things like divorce, servitude, out of wedlock births. For example Abraham had Isaac out of wedlock and based on non-faith. God reluctantly accepted this. He was happy with neither occurance. If you think Abraham got away with anything and God was mocked. Think again. Abraham suffered greatly and specifically for both sins and in many ways all of the trouble in the Middle East comes from his sin. Blessing a marriage is no to say God approved of every aspect of it. Any time God had to interact with a rebellious and sinful human race far less than optimal issues resulted. God could have killed everyone who messed up and you would yell Evil. He could approve of the sin its self and you would yell evil. He could make the best of our limitations and you yell he is self-contradictory. Heads you win tails he loses I guess but no contradiction. I hope God would bless imperfect things myself, as it is either that or anihilation of everything we ever did and ourselves as well.
2. Your argument will inevitably be that it was always wrong even before God declared it to be so. Maybe. The injunction against incest is believed to be based on genetics (I however have no idea why God claimed it wrong). However that is only if there is harm produced. I have heard qualified medical experts claim that if the Human Genome was in its early and pristine state that there is very little potential harm. If there was initially a very limited population even geographically it also might be allowed even if potentially harmful.
3. Be this as it may it makes little difference because God many times was forced (by choice, given purpose and revelation) to accept non optimal things like divorce, servitude, out of wedlock births. For example Abraham had Isaac out of wedlock and based on non-faith. God reluctantly accepted this. He was happy with neither occurance. If you think Abraham got away with anything and God was mocked. Think again. Abraham suffered greatly and specifically for both sins and in many ways all of the trouble in the Middle East comes from his sin. Blessing a marriage is no to say God approved of every aspect of it. Any time God had to interact with a rebellious and sinful human race far less than optimal issues resulted. God could have killed everyone who messed up and you would yell Evil. He could approve of the sin its self and you would yell evil. He could make the best of our limitations and you yell he is self-contradictory. Heads you win tails he loses I guess but no contradiction. I hope God would bless imperfect things myself, as it is either that or anihilation of everything we ever did and ourselves as well.
Well it’s obvious the direct this is going and I am out of time. Have a good one and let me know if you require I address all of these before they are abandoned.
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