why does the bible contain contradictions ?

[maro]

Dear brother...

i am a sister

in your anger and hate you seem to miss the point...

hey, you are the one who spread "accusations" around now , and i think you are the one who owe me an apology too

Anyone who reads a Bible verse can get it wrong .... the same way you thought I was wrong about my interpretation of the Koran....you can't just look at the Bible and think you know what you are talking about.

that's why i asked you to remove my confusion about the bible verses ,
but you answered (i can't ) , Right ?

if you have something to tell me about the verses ,go ahead

Edit note: let's don't let our emotions control us, and try to be a bit rational ,
when i say the bible contradicts itself, i have my excuse ,becoz no christian was able to clear things up for me , i hope you will

 

[Scott1]

We seem to have a communication problem maro... I have and do apologize for the confusion.

Time we move on...k?

 

[UnityNow101]

The Bible contains contradictions and some inconsistencies because it was written by mortal men, who are inclined to error from time to time. The Bible was revealed by God but written down by men. It is the same thing with the Qu'ran or any other religious text. They all contain inconsistencies from time to time. It is not a lapse in the knowledge of God but rather a lapse in our knowledge and capabilities.

 

[may]

My favorite is the God loving all of His creation part and still burns non-believers for all eternity for not giving them enough reason to believe in the first place.

what false religious leaders have you been listening to ?, the bible doesnt teach hellfire . it is no wonder that the true God of the bible is telling his people to get out of false relgion.revelation 18;4 false religion has a lot to answer for .

 

[maro]

The Bible was revealed by God but written down by men. It is the same thing with the Qu'ran or any other religious text. They all contain inconsistencies from time to time.

The injeel that was revealed by god to prophet jesus (PBUH), is not the bible that exists nowadays ,
that's why it contains Tons of contradictions

the ones i posted , are not the only ones, i was just waiting for a rational explanation for them , to post the others

But this is not the case for the noble Quran , which is the litteral words revealed to prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ;

allah says:

We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). [15:9]

Do they not consider the Qur-an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy. [4:82]

if there is anything in the quran thta seems to be "inconsistency" to you , go to the thread i started , and ask about it

 

[rocka21]

Angel??

(John 20:12) One woman saw two angels at the grave of Jesus.

(Mat 28:2) Two women saw one angel.

(Luke 24:3) Three women saw two men.

(Mark 16:5) Three women saw one man.

Again, the TOMB WAS EMPTY!:yes:

Who was told??

(Luke 24:9) Mary the Mag-da-le and Mary the Mother of James and Jo'an-na returned back from the grave and told the eleven apostles all of what they saw.

(Mark 16:8) Mary the Mag-da-le and Mary and Sa-lo'-me returned
back from the grave, and did not tell anyone anything because
they were afraid.

do we know today that the tomb was empty? :yes:
they told someone. Mabey they were afraid at first.


4 different men wrote the gospel at 4 different times. the little details may be different ( and they are minor).

but what is in harmony is important.

ALL FOUR GOSPELS......
1. Jesus was crucified
2. Jesus was buried
3. Jesus arose from the dead.


the death, burial, and ressurection!

He was the ONLY sinless man to ever walk the earth, he was unjustly punished and went to hell for 3 days ( took our place for our sins!!). He arose with the keys to death , hell, and the grave! He was the last sacrafice for mankind ( no more LAW). He sent the Holy Spirit. He is coming back for his church.:yes: :bow:


PRAISE THE LORD!

 

[Ozzie]

I am interested to know how chrisitans account for the contradictions of the bible ? does "GOD" contradict himself ?!!

Because its very long, written by many persons, and (this is a secret) life is full of contradictions.

 

[maro]

4 different men wrote the gospel at 4 different times. the little details may be different ( and they are minor).

but what is in harmony is important.

ALL FOUR GOSPELS......
1. Jesus was crucified
2. Jesus was buried
3. Jesus arose from the dead

if those 4 men changed the "Original revelation " and made up things that weren't there ,
how can i trust this book anymore ?


you know if i knew that a "human hand" extended to the noble quran and changed "one verse" from the original revelation,the whole book will fall down , and it won't be holy anymore , and i won't be able to trust it anymore


Not to mension, that every church has its version of the book (unbelievable diversity) ,
Here in Egypt , the coptic orthodox church has a different version from the catholic church in Beirut ,
every church claims that its own version is more accurate ,and salvation is only theirs


while on the whole EArth , there is only (one Arabic version of the quran) for all muslims to follow

 

[FatMan]

Didn't you ever play the game as a child where a story is given to you once and you have to relate it to the person next to you, and so on. Inevitably, the final product resembles nothing what the original story did. Such is the plight of most ancient works.

Add to it the complications of translations and personal biases, and you have perfect conditions for contradictions.

Nursery rhymes couldn't even get through this process without the story changing, who thinks a volumunous tome could?

 

[James the Persian]

if those 4 men changed the "Original revelation " and made up things that weren't there ,
how can i trust this book anymore ?

It's not that anyone changed the original revelation. It's that four different people wrote four different books documenting it. They're all original.

you know if i knew that a "human hand" extended to the noble quran and changed "one verse" from the original revelation,the whole book will fall down , and it won't be holy anymore , and i won't be able to trust it anymore

And that's where your problem lies and why these discussions between Muslims and Christians are so fruitless. Your attitude to Scripture is that it is God's dictated words. Ours is not. Only a tiny minority of Christians have ever believed that Scripture is the direct word of God (and those all since 16th century). Scripture, like the Church which produced it and the Christ on whom She is built is both Divine and human - and humans are all capable of error.

Not to mension, that every church has its version of the book (unbelievable diversity) ,

That's not true. The Coptic Church in Egypt and we have identical canons despite being separated so long. This is true for all of the Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox with the exception of the Ethiopians. Rome has a slightly different canon and the Protestants another, but there isn't unvelievable diversity - rather there is remarkable unity given that some of us have been out of communion with each for three times as long as we were in communion.

Here in Egypt , the coptic orthodox church has a different version from the catholic church in Beirut ,

And yet you are talking of Christianity and how we 'corrupted' the supposedly original Injeel (which is nothing more, in fact, than an Arabic attempt to render the Greek word Evangelion) and in terms of the new Testament there is no difference between the Coptic and Roman canons, nor the Greek, nor Russian, nor even the Ethiopian narrow canon - the differences are all in the Old Testament.

every church claims that its own version is more accurate ,and salvation is only theirs

Again, this is nonsense. None of us claim our version is more accurate (in fact when the Church was one at least 4 different canons were in use in different regions and all were considered equally valid) and the only people who might claim such are extreme inerrantist Protestants who often seem to think the Bible dropped straight from the nad of God. For some reason, I can only imagine because the paradigm is more familiar to you, you Muslims often seem to want to overgeneralise from that particular minority by imposiung their narrow views on the whole of Christendom - it doesn't work. The same with your accusations of sectarianism. Most of us certainly do not believe that salavtion belongs to us alone - most of us believe that God saves whomsoever He wills.

while on the whole EArth , there is only (one Arabic version of the quran) for all muslims to follow

Yes, but why? A triumph of the political suppression of variant texts (much as Muslims, falsely, claim happened under Constantine the Great) during the early Caliphate. Miracle it is not.

James

 

[rocka21]

while on the whole EArth , there is only (one Arabic version of the quran) for all muslims to follow

then it should be easy for muslims to get it right.

why all the different views? ( see sunnis VS. Sheites)
aren't muslims killing the 20 koreans right now? what book did they have?

 

[doppelganger]

I am interested to know how chrisitans account for the contradictions of the bible ? does "GOD" contradict himself ?!!

Some "Christians" don't perceive any contradictions. For some of those, nothing you can say will change that perception. Some "Christians" don't have a model of "God" or the "Bible" for which perceived contradictions are a problem.

Either way, you're punching at shadows (but then, aren't we all?).

 

[sojourner]

I am interested to know how chrisitans account for the contradictions of the bible ? does "GOD" contradict himself ?!!

I and those I know account for them through the application of scholarship. We realize that the Biblical accounts are different oral traditions compiled into one set of written documentation. It was more important for the writers to preserve the various traditions of the same story than it was to "get the facts straight."

God does not contradict God's self. Humans contradict each other.

Why should the Bible not contain contradictions? Is there something wrong with a text like the Bible containing contradiction?

 

[joeboonda]

I have a book that answers every seeming contradicted put forth on this thread and harmonizes them together quite remarkably well. Am I going to type it all out for you and waste my time? No way Jose. You wanna know the truth for real and not just find an excuse not to trust Jesus and be saved then you gotta do your own work and there's plenty of good books and websites that deal with your seeming contradictions.

 

[sojourner]

I have a book that answers every seeming contradicted put forth on this thread and harmonizes them together quite remarkably well. Am I going to type it all out for you and waste my time? No way Jose. You wanna know the truth for real and not just find an excuse not to trust Jesus and be saved then you gotta do your own work and there's plenty of good books and websites that deal with your seeming contradictions.

Admitting that the Bible is what it is, and that it contains glaring contradictions in some of its "facts" does not constitute an "excuse to mistrust Jesus and not be saved." It does constitute a bold bow toward reality.

 

[logician]

"The Bible was revealed by God but written down by men"

On the contrary, man created god.

 

[madhatter85]

God does not contradict himself. people contradict eachother.

It's near human nature to push things as far as they can to see what they can get away with and push the envelope as far as they can.

over the ages is it not assumable that with the various translations and retranslations of a bible by man, that they would see something they think they could get away with. then change somethign to make it suit thier personal wants and desires?

i would say of course they did, but that was not of god, that was of man.

 

[*Paul*]

"The Bible was revealed by God but written down by men"

On the contrary, man created god.

What physical stimulus would he have had to create such an idea as an omnipresent, triune, omniscient personal God?

 

[love]

87. We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!
88. They say, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah.s Word: we need no more)." Nay, Allah.s curse is on them for their blasphemy: Little is it they believe.
89. And when there comes to them a Book from Allah, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for victory against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognised, they refuse to believe in it but the curse of Allah is on those without Faith.
90. Miserable is the price for which they have sold their souls, in that they deny (the revelation) which Allah has sent down, in insolent envy that Allah of His Grace should send it to any of His servants He pleases: Thus have they drawn on themselves Wrath upon Wrath. And humiliating is the punishment of those who reject Faith.
91. When it is said to them, "Believe in what Allah Hath sent down, "they say, "We believe in what was sent down to us:" yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what is with them. Say: "Why then have ye slain the prophets of Allah in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?"

I assume you believe the Quran!

 

[love]

Maro, I believe your intentions are good. I believe you have the love of God within you. As such you desire to save as many people from hell fire as possible.

Jesus saves!