Why don't you accept the evolution theory?

[s2a]

roli said:

Could there be a bias position present that has a underlying motive to attack the very moral fibre of society and life as we know,by destroying the foundation of Christianity and God.

Perhaps, if there was indeed a vast alignment of otherwise divergent multicultural, multi-creedal (including - *gasp* -Christians!), and multinational conspirators working flawlessly in concert to achieve such a goal.

Evolution theory is not purposed in any way to "reject" your god, and there is no extant vast conspiracy of "god-hating" scientists and lay-persons secretly (or overtly) efforting to do so.

I mean what other purpose would could there be for the heart of man to devise such attacks against God,creation,Jesus, if it were not to silence the convicting conscience of everyone who lives in defiance with him.

The purpose is to explain the cosmos as we see it, for ourselves. That's what science does.

What purpose does self-awareness, free will, abject curiosity, and higher order intelligence serve, if mankind is to be nothing more than a mindless subservient subject of some invisible, omniscient deity? Are we to be masters of choice, or slaves to imposed and willful ignorance?

[PS. If you care to share such, could you either enumerate specific examples of how evolution theory "attacks" your god, prophet, or biblical creation accounts...

...or perhaps provide what you construe as compelling evidence of a purposed and motivated collusive world-wide conspiracy (by means of scientific methodology and inquiry) to otherwise deconstruct the "very moral fibre of society and life as we know,by destroying the foundation of Christianity and God.".

Thanks.

 

[uumckk16]

I mean what other purpose would could there be for the heart of man to devise such attacks against God,creation,Jesus, if it were not to silence the convicting conscience of everyone who lives in defiance with him.

As many people have stated on this thread, evolution says nothing about God aside from our personal interpretations. I find it extremely misinformed and ignorant to say that evolution is an attack on "God, creation, and Jesus". I believe in God (I hold somewhat deistic views), I respect Jesus, and I believe in evolution.

I don't see how morality and evolution can possibly be equated. Of all the people in my life I am close to, of those I know their positions on this topic, all of them believe in evolution to some degree. And yet I find them all to be moral people, hence the fact that I am close to them. It's a bit insulting to me, as a believer in God and evolution as well as (I hope) a moral person, that you feel morality/God don't fit with the theory of evolution. But oh well.

 

[niceguy]

I mean there are no monkeys in the process of becoming human,reptiles progressing into mammals or whatever,or else the world would quickly know about it,but I KNOW THERE IS A GOOD EXPLAINATION as to why it all stopped.

We have filled out the position for humans, making it very hard for contesters to apply. The last contesters, the Neandertals (who where actually humans) became extinct just recently. The closest now would be the bonobo, sometimes wrongly called "dwarf chimps", thou they are not chimps at all. The bonobo are facing extinction within a few years. They are an evelosionare sound species but unrestricted hunting by people that like to eat them are more then they can overcome. I see no way that the bonobo can survive in the long run now, it's to late. That would then leave us with the chimp, problem is, the chimp have come to a standstill, they are not "smart" in the same way the bonobo are.

The unlikiliness for contesters to arise means that the next contester would have to wait for us to dissaper, or we would just exterminate them before they get a chance or more likely, the new human will evolve from us. We already got social problems comming from the fact that our instincs tell us to behave in one way but the LAW say otherwhise. This means that we are expected to act against our nature or become criminals. In time, people that finds it easier to submit to the law will find it easier to raise families and thus will effect the gene pool more then those that spend parts of their lifes in prison.

It is also possible that we will cheat the evolosion of the chance of producing an contester, we may actually do some "creation" of our own with genetic engineering. This are already done on plants and to some extent to animals, sooner or later it will be done on humans as well. There are laws aginst doing this on humans but thease laws will, at some point be bypassed, we can only try to delay this process, we cannot stop it.

 

[god sucks a whole bunch]

as an evolutionist it is my opinion not that it matters a whole bunch, that we evolved from single celled organisms *everyone says we know that* but given the current inablility to make absolutley certain that we did despite my own opinions it it just as likely that we were created. but if we evolved it is almost definitley through a grande cosmic accident. because the most recent theory i've heard is that throughout time, the universe has ben created andd destroyed in equal measures through the creation of antimatter, supposedly at the "big bang" these were created in equal amounts but our universe was shortchanged and the cosmic equation became unbalanced, matter was more predominant than anti matter, thus the great cosmic accident.

 

[Mike182]

as an evolutionist it is my opinion not that it matters a whole bunch, that we evolved from single celled organisms *everyone says we know that* but given the current inablility to make absolutley certain that we did despite my own opinions it it just as likely that we were created. but if we evolved it is almost definitley through a grande cosmic accident. because the most recent theory i've heard is that throughout time, the universe has ben created andd destroyed in equal measures through the creation of antimatter, supposedly at the "big bang" these were created in equal amounts but our universe was shortchanged and the cosmic equation became unbalanced, matter was more predominant than anti matter, thus the great cosmic accident.

so matter and anti matter are equal properties - an analogy of this could be, say, the weigh the same on a set of scales.... well, they will only weigh differently if they are tamperd with, by someone outside of the scales.... see where im going with this?

 

[Yerda]

because the most recent theory i've heard...

Nothing like some hearsay to spice it up a notch.

 

[light_to_all_men]

Well u must use the bible cuz its gods work u can't ignore the genious in how we were created by saying an explosion gave humans life, the ability to reproduce ,and the ability to store endless knowledge in our 3 pound brains a creator put all his genious into making us people don't wanna hear anything from the bible because they either don't know about it and have no knowledge or because they are afraid to accept the truth of their being a creator.:slap:

 

[light_to_all_men]

u forget where the bible says god created the first man and woman in the book of genesis.humans are no accident it said god breathed life into man which came from the dust and he became a living soul your soul isn't whats inside u thats your spirit but the soul is your body cuz the bibles says your spirit goes back to jehovah god and your soul dies or returns to the ground or dust from which u were made.

 

[Bishka]

u forget where the bible says god created the first man and woman in the book of genesis.humans are no accident it said god breathed life into man which came from the dust and he became a living soul your soul isn't whats inside u thats your spirit but the soul is your body cuz the bibles says your spirit goes back to jehovah god and your soul dies or returns to the ground or dust from which u were made.

Some people don't believe in the Bible, or did you forget that?

 

[light_to_all_men]

u can't be a believer of god and evolution cuz makes no sense of what the bible means god created the first man and woman as talked about in genesis. put faith in god and stop doubting the truth cuz evolution is mans thinking mans ways but gods ways are higher than mans ways mankind wasn't meant to govern themselves so why believe mankinds inferior teachings and theories when man doesn't even really know of our coming to existence believe gods superior ways of teaching cuz he knows because a creation can nver be greater than its creator.

 

[Bishka]

u can't be a believer of god and evolution cuz makes no sense of what the bible means god created the first man and woman as talked about in genesis. put faith in god and stop doubting the truth cuz evolution is mans thinking mans ways but gods ways are higher than mans ways mankind wasn't meant to govern themselves so why believe mankinds inferior teachings and theories when man doesn't even really know of our coming to existence believe gods superior ways of teaching cuz he knows because a creation can nver be greater than its creator.

Actually you can. I believe in God and in evolution. Not the type of evolution that we were single-celled organisms, but in the type of evolution that happens everyday, every century in the world.

 

[light_to_all_men]

thats the problem our very lives rest on what we learn from the bible we have a chance to live forever as jesus talked about at john17:3 and this is a promise from jehovah god jesus father himself he tells humans how we can attain this its not to good to be tru cuz gods original purpose for man was to live forever.

 

[Bishka]

thats the problem our very lives rest on what we learn from the bible we have a chance to live forever as jesus talked about at john17:3 and this is a promise from jehovah god jesus father himself he tells humans how we can attain this its not to good to be tru cuz gods original purpose for man was to live forever.

What?

What's the problem?

 

[light_to_all_men]

science can never cover human existence because these theories all come from man and mans thoughts are inferior to gods and god the creator knows and tells us of our existence in the bible cause a creation can never be wiser smarter or stronger than its creator.

 

[Bishka]

science can never cover human existence because these theories all come from man and mans thoughts are inferior to gods and god the creator knows and tells us of our existence in the bible cause a creation can never be wiser smarter or stronger than its creator.

And that's the problem?

 

[light_to_all_men]

the problem u can't believe in god and evolution cuz they contradict eachother and ull never understand the meaning of life but like the bible says u cannot slave for two masters ull either love one and hate the other or despise one and favor the other so u choose god or evolution choose god don't listen to mans theories on life cause gods thoughts are higher and man can never truly understand on their own.

 

[Bishka]

the problem u can't believe in god and evolution cuz they contradict eachother and ull never understand the meaning of life but like the bible says u cannot slave for two masters ull either love one and hate the other or despise one and favor the other so u choose god or evolution choose god don't listen to mans theories on life cause gods thoughts are higher and man can never truly understand on their own.

No they don't. God and evolution does not contradict each other. Ever think of the idea that God put into place evolution to further his plan?

 

[light_to_all_men]

no god wouldn't do that cuz evolution gives the idea that there is no creator that we just evolved somehow why would god do that if he did humans would never know him thats y they DO contradict.

 

[Bishka]

no god wouldn't do that cuz evolution gives the idea that there is no creator that we just evolved somehow why would god do that if he did humans would never know him thats y they DO contradict.

Not to me it doesn't, like I stated, I don't believe we came from one-celled organisms, but I do agree that evolution exists in a form on the earth. Have you even read into any scientific studies?

People and animals do evolve. You have to be blind not to see it.

Let me guess 'your' Bible explicitly states that "Thou shalt not believe in evolution'

 

[light_to_all_men]

the bible states that the bible is not of mans own interpretation but of gods god is holy and cannot lie so if u do not believe in gods word what or who r u believing in satan is the one who twisted gods word from the begging when he lied to eve tellin her she will not die if she eats the forbidden fruit so thats y so many religions can never understand the meaning of the bible cuz they are in mental and spiritual darkness like jesus said they are skinned and thrown about like sheep without a sheperd.:yes: