Why evolution did not comes like this ?

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

I don't know what you meant about mea here.

DNA repair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is not in the model, the model is random mutation and natural selection. You are free to change the model into. Random mutations, and repair, and then not really random mutations, and then natural selection.

You can also just use common sense to say that a representation of the adult organism is chosen as a functional whole in the DNA world, which representation guides the development of the organism to adulthood.

 

[LuisDantas]

Mohammad, it is not a matter of "freedom to choose", but rather of researching and finding out what is.

Also, what would a "DNA World" be?

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

Mohammad, it is not a matter of "freedom to choose", but rather of researching and finding out what is.

Also, what would a "DNA World" be?

Basically the DNA runs similar to a 3D computer simulation. Although ofcourse a computer simulation is 2D looking into 3D. The DNA world runs full 3D.

For people you should basically consider the content of this DNA world to be like the garden of Eden with lots of things in it, but with the representation of the adult organism, and the other sex, more proncounced and detailed than the other things in this world.

The DNA sends a signal, and eventually one should be able to 1:1 translate this signal into the signal for a 3D computer simulation, so as that you can then directly see inside the DNA world on a computerscreen.

The basic operating object in the programmingcode of a computersimulation is an object with 4 parameters. DNA also has 4 basic parameters CATG. The physical univers also has 4 basic parameters, mass, time, space and charge.

So you can "copy" one to the other. It means an adult organism object can be made in the DNA world, and this object is used to develop the organism to adulthood in the physical universe. That is the only current theory about development to adulthood that makes any sense.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Godobeyer, Your question expresses a profound truth. The fossil record has consistently illustrated that the theory of evolution is invalid. Despite a few disproven claims, no fossil of any creature in transition from one species to another has ever been found. Even in the very oldest layers of strata, fossils of plants and animals are of creatures that first appeared on earth in their distinct, specialized forms.

All fossils ever found have been in transition.
have you ever looked at a length of cine film. Every frame is a single moment in time. If you look at a set of a dozen frames you can see no change one to another, however if you look at the first and last you can clearly see that a transition has taken place.
so it is with fossils.. they are chance survivors with most of the intermediate frames missing. However they do define a transition.

 

[LuisDantas]

Basically the DNA runs similar to a 3D computer simulation. Although ofcourse a computer simulation is 2D looking into 3D. The DNA world runs full 3D.

What would created such a simulation?

For people you should basically consider the content of this DNA world to be like the garden of Eden with lots of things in it, but with the representation of the adult organism, and the other sex, more proncounced and detailed than the other things in this world.

So it is a story?

The DNA sends a signal, and eventually one should be able to 1:1 translate this signal into the signal for a 3D computer simulation, so as that you can then directly see inside the DNA world on a computerscreen.

The basic operating object in the programmingcode of a computersimulation is an object with 4 parameters. DNA also has 4 basic parameters CATG. The physical univers also has 4 basic parameters, mass, time, space and charge.

So you can "copy" one to the other. It means an adult organism object can be made in the DNA world, and this object is used to develop the organism to adulthood in the physical universe. That is the only current theory about development to adulthood that makes any sense.

That is not even remotely how DNA works.

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

That is not even remotely how DNA works.

Use common sense, don't listen to evolution science.

When you see the enormous diversity of organisms it is very obvious that DNA in principle can contain the information for anything. That you can put the representation of a car into DNA, eventhough one cannot grow a car from DNA. So there is a whole world of objects in the DNA.

This explains the enormous amount of socalled non-coding DNA.
It explains development to adulthood, into a coherent whole organism.
It explains how organisms can be chosen to be the way they are.
etc.

 

[columbus]

Use common sense, don't listen to evolution science.

This appears to be the problem you have with science.
You consider your intuition ( common sense) a better source of understanding the natural world than the work of thousands of dedicated specialists in the field. They have mountains of interrelated evidence to back up their findings and you have only your opinions.

That is why I believe them and not you.
Tom

 

[outhouse]

Prehistoric crocodile discovered in Chatham County

Good article.

 

[dust1n]

Is not in the model, the model is random mutation and natural selection. You are free to change the model into. Random mutations, and repair, and then not really random mutations, and then natural selection.

You can also just use common sense to say that a representation of the adult organism is chosen as a functional whole in the DNA world, which representation guides the development of the organism to adulthood.

Now we are just diving into gibberish.

 

[Sapiens]

Use common sense, don't listen to evolution science.

Science indicates evolution, your word salad indicates nonsense.

When you see the enormous diversity of organisms it is very obvious that DNA in principle can contain the information for anything. That you can put the representation of a car into DNA, eventhough one cannot grow a car from DNA. So there is a whole world of objects in the DNA.

That too is nonsense, an unsupported delusion.

This explains the enormous amount of socalled non-coding DNA.
It explains development to adulthood, into a coherent whole organism.
It explains how organisms can be chosen to be the way they are.
etc.

No, it does not, your claims are unsupported nonsense.

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

This appears to be the problem you have with science.
You consider your intuition ( common sense) a better source of understanding the natural world than the work of thousands of dedicated specialists in the field. They have mountains of interrelated evidence to back up their findings and you have only your opinions.

That is why I believe them and not you.
Tom

My ideas about the dna world are also derived and copied from scientists who are probably evolutionists, like Taborsky, Hill, Rowlands, Garaiev. However you must use common sense to interpret the theory, and also use creationism, to get a good understanding.

Obviously that freedom is real and relevant in the universe is a strong argument, very reasonable, and very important, very obvious and genuinely common sense. The belief has comprehensive and deep support in common discourse. And it does not matter much if it is wrong, because finding out it is wrong would be meaningful as well. But obviously there is no chance that it's wrong.

 

[Sapiens]

My ideas about the dna world are also derived and copied from scientists who are probably evolutionists, like Taborsky, Hill, Rowlands, Garaiev. However you must use common sense to interpret the theory, and also use creationism, to get a good understanding.

This is an intelectual oxymoron, there is nothing about DNA that is "derived and copied from scientists" yet uses "creationism, to get a good understanding." Nothing!

 

[Jainarayan]

Godobeyer, Your question expresses a profound truth. The fossil record has consistently illustrated that the theory of evolution is invalid. Despite a few disproven claims, no fossil of any creature in transition from one species to another has ever been found. Even in the very oldest layers of strata, fossils of plants and animals are of creatures that first appeared on earth in their distinct, specialized forms.

Ta-da! The Evolution of Whales. Evolution of cetaceans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Plenty of transitional forms.

 

[McBell]

Now we are just diving into gibberish.

Now?
I would the gibberish started long before "now"...

 

[dust1n]

Is not in the model, the model is random mutation and natural selection. You are free to change the model into. Random mutations, and repair, and then not really random mutations, and then natural selection.

Genetic repair happens, but forget about it for one moment.

But my example still clearly indicates (in regards to malaria) how an advantageous gene would become more numerous than an unsuccessful gene.

The mechanism that keeps the advantageous genes "from mutating" over long periods of time in regards to huge populations, is that eventually only the genes that will allow something to reproduce will become guarded and safe from mutation because they will become more prevalent, if they help some creature to reproduce more effectively.

Which is why the "mathematical hacker" analogy used in the study I provided earlier makes this explicitly reasonable as to why evolution can move so quickly. Advantageous genes reproduce more effectively. Ones that don't get reproduced cease to exist.
An advantageous gene may get mutated when passed on to an offspring, but if it keeps them from reproducing themselves, than that bad gene goes away with that one person. If the advantageous gene gets passed on it, then it reproducing over and over with every generation, and spreading.

 

[dust1n]

Now?
I would the gibberish started long before "now"...

Yeah, but it's fun to address weird objections. Keeps me sharp.

 

[Sapiens]

but dinosaurs were extincted .

No ... one just flew by your window.

Godobeyer, Your question expresses a profound truth. The fossil record has consistently illustrated that the theory of evolution is invalid. Despite a few disproven claims, no fossil of any creature in transition from one species to another has ever been found. Even in the very oldest layers of strata, fossils of plants and animals are of creatures that first appeared on earth in their distinct, specialized forms.

False!

There are many, many transitional fossils here are links to a few:

• 1 Nautiloids to ammonoids
• 2 Cephalopods
• 3 Evolution of insects
• 4 Evolution of spiders
• 5 Invertebrates to fish
• 6 Chondrichthyes
• 7 Bony fish
• 8 Fish to tetrapods
• 9 Amphibians to amniotes (early reptiles)
• 10 Turtles
• 11 From lizards to snakes
• 12 Lizards
• 13 Pterosaurs
• 14 Archosaurs to dinosaurs
• 15 Dinosauria
• 16 Dinosaurs to birds
• 17 Bird evolution
• 18 Synapsid ("mammal-like reptiles") to mammals
• 19 Evolution of mammals
• 20 Early artiodactylans to whales
• 21 Evolution of sirenians
• 22 Evolution of pinnipeds
• 23 Evolution of the horse
• 24 Human evolution

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Use common sense, don't listen to evolution science.

When you see the enormous diversity of organisms it is very obvious that DNA in principle can contain the information for anything. That you can put the representation of a car into DNA, eventhough one cannot grow a car from DNA. So there is a whole world of objects in the DNA.

This explains the enormous amount of socalled non-coding DNA.
It explains development to adulthood, into a coherent whole organism.
It explains how organisms can be chosen to be the way they are.
etc.

You're almost there but not quite. While the DNA contains lots of information you're leaving out a lot of factors as to why various genes that are there are either switched on or switched off.

Why is the gene that gives men nipples on and not turned off even though clearly men don't have a biological need for them. At least none that I know of.

Take the teeth in chicken. The gene is there for them to produce teeth yet the gene is turned off for some reason. Why? Science answers that question quite nicely.

 

[Valjean]

If natural selection cannot account for the diversity of life on Earth, Mohammad, how did this diversity come about? What mechanism, in your opinion, could account for it?

 

[LuisDantas]

Use common sense, don't listen to evolution science.

Sorry, but you can't reasonably expect me to ignore science, much less by appealling to common sense.

When you see the enormous diversity of organisms it is very obvious that DNA in principle can contain the information for anything.

No, it is not. There is no evidence whatsoever of DNA being magically powerful.