Why exactly would interracial relationships and marriage be a sin?

[ChristineES]

People aren't really colors, in the strictest sense, but various skin tones. This might be semantics. And think of it this way, people of various ethnic groups are able to have children with each other, telling me that they are of the same race.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

People aren't really colors, in the strictest sense, but various skin tones. This might be semantics. And think of it this way, people of various ethnic groups are able to have children with each other, telling me that they are of the same race.

What it really comes down is phenotypes, which are superficial genes that code for things like skin tone, eye color, hair color, etc. When two people with similar phenotypes mate, the baby will inherit those phenotypes. When two people with different phenotypes mate, the baby can look like a cross between the two or inherit their phenotypes mostly from one partner. It's really a genetic grab bag. Hence, you have half black and half white people with phenotypes expressing themselves in all manner of ways. There's black/white people with blond hair and blue eyes, black/white people with light colored skin and red curly hair, black/white people who really just look inbetween (such as me), black/white people who look black, etc.

I, myself, have been mistaken for/accused of being Latino, Asian, Native American (well, I'm apparently part native) and Polynesian at one point or another.

 

[ChristineES]

What it really comes down is phenotypes, which are superficial genes that code for things like skin tone, eye color, hair color, etc. When two people with similar phenotypes mate, the baby will inherit those phenotypes. When two people with different phenotypes mate, the baby can look like a cross between the two or inherit their phenotypes mostly from one partner. It's really a genetic grab bag. Hence, you have half black and half white people with phenotypes expressing themselves in all manner of ways. There's black/white people with blond hair and blue eyes, black/white people with light colored skin and red curly hair, black/white people who really just look inbetween (such as me), black/white people who look black, etc.

I, myself, have been mistaken for/accused of being Latino, Asian, Native American (well, I'm apparently part native) and Polynesian at one point or another.

For me, I am 1/2 Native American, but I have olive skin tones, green eyes, and dark reddish brown hair. My brother, on the other hand, was very dark skin toned, had nearly black hair, and brown eyes.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

For me, I am 1/2 Native American, but I have olive skin tones, green eyes, and dark reddish brown hair. My brother, on the other hand, was very dark skin toned, had nearly black hair, and brown eyes.

I'm the only kid from my parent's union but my dad's other kids with his previous wife (who was also white) looked similar to me. My mom has kids from previous relationships, too. So I have a white sister, a half Jewish brother and 3 mixed black/white siblings. My dad was the darkest out of his siblings, too. Lol.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I refer to this:


So, let's hear it.

Harmful, arbitrary religious rules? I'm shocked! Simply shocked! Who ever heard of such a thing?

:sarcastic

You must know different kinds of people than I know, because I never met a Baptist who thought like that.

My aunt told me that she had a black boyfriend for a while, and during this period, my grandmother - who was a Baptist - told her that it was okay for her to date a black man, but she shouldn't marry a black man or have children with one.

... however, I don't know if she got this position at her church.

 

[Sonofason]

Actually, he didn't. Here's what he said:

Your summary:

"People of diverse ethnic backgrounds have fewer genetic health issues" =/= "I believe multiracial people are better and superior to everyone else." First of all, the term "multiracial" never appeared in his post. Second, "genetic health issues" is not a synonym for "inferior."

He didn't say what you claim he said. You claimed twice, now, that he said it. You're wrong, you're putting words in his mouth and arguing against what he didn't say, which presents us with a fallacious argument. Apparently, that's the only way you know how to "argue."

That is not the post I was referring to. Keep searching. Don't make me do it for you. He said what I said he said.

 

[Sonofason]

Yes, you did imply it when you said:

in reference to whites marrying black. You said this about it:

because then the colors were no longer "pure." You used the example of blue being mixed with red. You said that the blue "tainted" the red. That implies that red is superior to the color purple that results from a mixture of the two. And if the blue "taints" the red, then that implies that red is superior to blue.

You certainly have implied that one particular race is inferior, based upon color (of all things). I'm telling you this to remind you that your arguments are generally fallacious.

Yes, if red is the color you desire, then mixing blue with the red will taint the red, and the color will no longer be red. I'm not suggesting that there is anything intrinsically wrong with being purple. If that is what you think I was saying, you're wrong, or perhaps I misrepresented my own thinking on the matter. I'm truly sorry if I inadvertently misled you in any way.

Let's be clear. I love bi-racial people.

 

[Sonofason]

Not until you stop presenting your bigoted and provocative posts as truthful using fallacious arguments.

You are the only one here representing a bigoted and hypocritical attitude here.

 

[Sonofason]

Truth never moves the goalposts. :face palm:

Fallacy moves the goalposts.

Lies don't either.

 

[Shiranui117]

Yes, if red is the color you desire, then mixing blue with the red will taint the red, and the color will no longer be red. I'm not suggesting that there is anything intrinsically wrong with being purple.

Then what is the point you're trying to make in terms of race and marriage, if there's nothing wrong with being the product of red and blue mixing to produce you, purple?

 

[Sonofason]

Of course your racist tendencies play a part in your views of race relations, such as interracial relationships. I know what it's like, since I've been very racist in the past and sometimes still struggle with those feelings. But I recognize what they are and that it's not only wrong, but illogical. So I no longer consciously support anything that's racist. You can do it, too.

I will do what I am able to do. When I perceive no threats, generally speaking, from groups of persons who I consider a different race than myself, then I will no longer be a racist.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Yes, if red is the color you desire, then mixing blue with the red will taint the red, and the color will no longer be red. I'm not suggesting that there is anything intrinsically wrong with being purple.

Yes, that's what you're suggesting.

The word "taint" has a negative connotation. You're also presenting the desire of a particular colour as morally neutral. Prejudice is built into the very language you're using regardless of how much you protest.

Edit: and this is all ignoring the fact that you describe interracial marriage as "sin" in the quote given in the OP.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I will do what I am able to do. When I perceive no threats, generally speaking, from groups of persons who I consider a different race than myself, then I will no longer be a racist.

What an odd test. Are you never threatened by people of your own race?

 

[Sonofason]

People aren't really colors, in the strictest sense, but various skin tones. This might be semantics. And think of it this way, people of various ethnic groups are able to have children with each other, telling me that they are of the same race.

Well, the fact that they can have children implies they are the same species. Race is another matter. The word we ought to be using to show the differences we see and associate with the word race probably ought to be the word breed. As I have already shown the word race has no real meaning and is valueless.

Skin tone is not the only distinguishing genetic factor when differentiating between the various sub-species of human beings.

 

[Flankerl]

This thread is pure gold.

Keep at it i'll need something to read for my lunch break.

 

[Sonofason]

What an odd test. Are you never threatened by people of your own race?

Of course, and that is why it is so absurd. I am not trying to justify my position. I'm not seeking approval for my position. It is what it is.

 

[Sonofason]

Then what is the point you're trying to make in terms of race and marriage, if there's nothing wrong with being the product of red and blue mixing to produce you, purple?

Well, you see, it's rather subjective. Some people don't like purple. I personally like purple. If you knowingly subject purple upon a culture that doesn't like purple, then there might be a problem and purple will suffer for it.

 

[Sonofason]

Yes, that's what you're suggesting.

The word "taint" has a negative connotation. You're also presenting the desire of a particular colour as morally neutral. Prejudice is built into the very language you're using regardless of how much you protest.

Edit: and this is all ignoring the fact that you describe interracial marriage as "sin" in the quote given in the OP.

I never said there was anything wrong or sinful in regards to being a product of a bi-racial marriage. That is your own misperception. Being bi-racial is not sinful. Entering into a bi-racial marriage could be.

 

[ScuzManiac]

I never said there was anything wrong or sinful in regards to being a product of a bi-racial marriage. That is your own misperception. Being bi-racial is not sinful. Entering into a bi-racial marriage could be.

Says who? And when did they say that? Where was it said?

I'll wait.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I never said there was anything wrong or sinful in regards to being a product of a bi-racial marriage. That is your own misperception.

I didn't say you did, so apparently the misperception is yours.

Being bi-racial is not sinful.

... no, not sinful; just "tainted". :sarcastic

Entering into a bi-racial marriage could be.

Sure: as I alluded to earlier, all sorts of arbitrary things are considered "sinful" by someone.