Secret Chief
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They'll be letting the gays on buses next.Probably those #*@*^!%$, radical, leftist liberals making trouble, as usual.
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Why has the status of women become so important in our age?
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Tambourine
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The answer is Feminism.
From Beauvoir's The Second Sex:
From Beauvoir's The Second Sex:
Simone de Beauvoir said:
Ah, Christian stuff; I'm not so good at that anymore.
Piculet
Active Member
I have a woman dressed as a prostitute telling me she needs to be more equal with men.
Piculet
Active Member
In English that would be.. The society no longer tries to make a difference between male and female. I'm so glad the doctors still agree that one's sexual organs are a defining factor, even though the society is working hard to change that.
epronovost
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Relentless campaigning, increased urbanisation and contraception that allowed greater participation in civil society. To make a long story very short.
epronovost
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Yes, an actual real prostitute is your equal in rights and in dignity and very well be your superior in many other fields who knows.
Piculet
Active Member
No. That's not dignity. But I'm sure many men who go to prostitutes are willing to tell gullible 15-year-olds that whoring is classy and dignified.
I'm pretty sure that was the result of a specific issue and shouldn't be taken as law for all time.
Piculet
Active Member
Pretty sure, eh? How comforting...
Most of Paul's letters were to specific churches advising them on matters specific to them. To be honest, too much is made of Paul and we need to go back to focusing on Christ first. I see most Christians on here quoting everyone but Christ.
No matter what a person is wearing or what their job is, they are a person and deserve rights, dignity and respect.
Piculet
Active Member
Yes, but some willingly give up all of those. Sometimes they're called feminists.
Regardless of how a person treats themselves, others still owe them at least basic human respect and I'm sure Islam teaches to treat all people with dignity and respect.
No. No-one gives those up; we only judge people as if they have done. Prostitutes, drug addicts, all the rest, have families, loved ones and backstories; they are not their clothes and their work.
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amorphous_constellation
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I was reading the ibn fadlan account, when he traveled in the 10th century headed north of the caspian sea. In one passage, he says that there was mixed naked bathing between men and woman among the Saqāliba people, who he was trying to convert to Islam, but under no condition did they fornicate. Fadlan fails to convince woman there to wear a veil. Adultery was apparently was doled with an equal sentence to both man and woman, however, even if we would consider it hideously barbarous. For both the man, and the woman, would then be staked to the ground and cut in half with an axe, from the 'neck to the thigh,' and then hung from trees. (1)
So I guess that kind of goes to show that things were radically different, or not everywhere the same in regard to this issue. I mean, you'd think that people who weren't concerned with making people wear clothes, wouldn't be hung up on strict relationships. Extremely different
Hopefully this is cited correctly, it's a pain in the butt
(1) Fadlan, Ibn. Part I The Book of Ahmad ibn Fadlān 921–922. Ibn Fadlan and the Land of Darkness: Arab travelers in the far north, translated by Paul Lunde and Caroline Stone. Kindle Ed., Penguin Books, 2012.
So I guess that kind of goes to show that things were radically different, or not everywhere the same in regard to this issue. I mean, you'd think that people who weren't concerned with making people wear clothes, wouldn't be hung up on strict relationships. Extremely different
Hopefully this is cited correctly, it's a pain in the butt
(1) Fadlan, Ibn. Part I The Book of Ahmad ibn Fadlān 921–922. Ibn Fadlan and the Land of Darkness: Arab travelers in the far north, translated by Paul Lunde and Caroline Stone. Kindle Ed., Penguin Books, 2012.
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Might like to tell that to those Muslims who abused so many young girls in the UK - and who no doubt saw them as such, even though they were just exploited young girls really.
epronovost
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dig·ni·ty
/ˈdiɡnədē/
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noun
- the state or quality of being worthy of honor or respect
That's the most common usage for dignity and a prostitute, no matter his or her gender, deserves as much of that as you do without taking anything else into account.
Faithofchristian
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Where is exactly is that written at..
That women are forbidden to speak openly.