Why horses were used for riding just few thousands of years ago ?

[roger1440]

Some things have been invented and discovered by accident. Christopher Columbus thought he had discovered a short cut to the West Indies. Truth is he had no idea where the heck he was. Plastic was discovered by accident and so was the microwave oven. The list goes on and on.

Maybe horseback riding was by accident too. I can imagine a cave man climbing a tree to get some bananas. While gathering the bananas a horse comes along and starts humping a tree. The horse rocks the tree so much the caveman falls out of the tree and unto the horse’s back. The horse is startled and runs away with the caveman on its back with his banana his hand. The caveman while riding off into the sunset thinks to himself, “I think I have something here. This just might work”. Hey, you never know, stranger things have happened.

 

[FearGod]

Dogs aren't helpful because God designed them that way. Dogs are helpful because WE designed them that way. Dogs are wolves, though unlike their wild ancestors, they can actually recognize many human gestures/body language. Dogs and wolves have about 1% difference in their blood (if I recall Biology class correctly.) However you can't just grab a wolf pup from the wild, raise it like a dog and expect it to act like one or be helpful in the way dogs are to us now.

Why we don't design wolves to be helpful as we designed the dogs to be so ?

Sheep, chicken, cows, pigs, snakes, grubs, ants,lizards, spiders, turtles, dugongs, whales, shark, giraffe. What do these animals all have in common? They are eaten by humans. But Sheep, chicken, pig, cows etc aren't tasty to all humans. In fact some humans live well without one or all types of meat in their diets.

Diversity is what makes life wonderful, what if it was all chicken ?

It also happened that marijuana plants, when digested, alters one's state. A high, if you will. It also happened that grapes, when fermented, gives one a similar reaction and certain types of mushrooms too. So let us praise the Lord! For he gave us ways to get ****faced! How very thoughtful of him. Yay!

You don't blame God for people's stupidity.
Close your room and burn fire to feel warm and then say praise the lord that he created CO2 to kill me.

 

[FearGod]

Some things have been invented and discovered by accident. Christopher Columbus thought he had discovered a short cut to the West Indies. Truth is he had no idea where the heck he was. Plastic was discovered by accident and so was the microwave oven. The list goes on and on.

And America was there awaiting for someone to find it by accident,IOW Christopher found America and didn't invent it

Maybe horseback riding was by accident too. I can imagine a cave man climbing a tree to get some bananas. While gathering the bananas a horse comes along and starts humping a tree. The horse rocks the tree so much the caveman falls out of the tree and unto the horse’s back. The horse is startled and runs away with the caveman on its back with his banana his hand. The caveman while riding off into the sunset thinks to himself, “I think I have something here. This just might work”. Hey, you never know, stranger things have happened.

Yes it can be by accident to know that horses are ride-able.

 

[SomeRandom]

Why we don't design wolves to be helpful as we designed the dogs to be so ?

Uhh, how do you think dogs were created in the first place? As I have said before, dogs are wolves, but because of OUR influence/interference they took a different evolutionary path, so to speak. We designed dogs, we took a wild animal and turned it into whatever the hell we wanted. Domesticated animals (that includes horses, by the way) basically happened because humans like to play God.
Also wild wolves do not have the same human interference, which is why they are not modern dogs.

Diversity is what makes life wonderful, what if it was all chicken ?

We'd screw with the chicken's genetics to create other flavors, of course.

You don't blame God for people's stupidity.
Close your room and burn fire to feel warm and then say praise the lord that he created CO2 to kill me.

People blame God for their stupidity and sometimes even evil deeds all the time. Just trying to even the playing field.

And America was there awaiting for someone to find it by accident,IOW Christopher found America and didn't invent it

Christopher Columbus didn't find anything. He landed on an already occupied country and claimed he discovered it. Like most of the colonized world, when people in the past claimed they have "discovered" a new land, it basically means they landed on a patch of land as yet unknown to the specific tribe they are from. Like when the British "discovered" Australia. The Brits were just all like "yay! We discovered a new land." Even though Australia had already been occupied by people for more than thousands of years at that point in time.

 

[FearGod]

Uhh, how do you think dogs were created in the first place? As I have said before, dogs are wolves, but because of OUR influence/interference they took a different evolutionary path, so to speak. We designed dogs, we took a wild animal and turned it into whatever the hell we wanted. Domesticated animals (that includes horses, by the way) basically happened because humans like to play God.
Also wild wolves do not have the same human interference, which is why they are not modern dogs.

Why we didn't design foxes, leopards and lions as well ?

We'd screw with the chicken's genetics to create other flavors, of course.

And make lambs and cows out of them ?

Christopher Columbus didn't find anything. He landed on an already occupied country and claimed he discovered it. Like most of the colonized world, when people in the past claimed they have "discovered" a new land, it basically means they landed on a patch of land as yet unknown to the specific tribe they are from. Like when the British "discovered" Australia. The Brits were just all like "yay! We discovered a new land." Even though Australia had already been occupied by people for more than thousands of years at that point in time.

You think that America was known to Europe before Christopher ?

 

[SomeRandom]

Why we didn't design foxes, leopards and lions as well ?

Foxes were considered pests to livestock so we didn't bother. Instead we hunted them. As for Leopards and Lions, we sort of did? Our domesticated House cats are a member of the Felidae family which includes Tigers, Lions and Leopards. So.............Yeah, I'll leave it to others far more learned in biology to explain the ins and outs of that particular phenomenon, (should they decide to.)

And make lambs and cows out of them ?

Maybe. Man likes to play God and screwing with genetics helps us to achieve this. (I'm speaking of flavors here, not species, of course.)

You think that America was known to Europe before Christopher ?

When did I say that America was already occupied by Europeans before Colombus? Ever hear of native Americans? You do know that there are other people in this world besides Europeans, even during Colonial times, right?

 

[FearGod]

Foxes were considered pests to livestock so we didn't bother. Instead we hunted them. As for Leopards and Lions, we sort of did? Our domesticated House cats are a member of the Felidae family which includes Tigers, Lions and Leopards. So.............Yeah, I'll leave it to others far more learned in biology to explain the ins and outs of that particular phenomenon, (should they decide to.)

Wolves attack sheep and livestock and then it make no difference than foxes but you said that human designed them to be helpful for man and hence wolves evolved to dogs, my question is very simple , why humans didn't do the same with foxes, leopards and lions.

Maybe. Man likes to play God and screwing with genetics helps us to achieve this. (I'm speaking of flavors here, not species, of course.)

Why not the species as well ?

When did I say that America was already occupied by Europeans before Colombus? Ever hear of native Americans? You do know that there are other people in this world besides Europeans, even during Colonial times, right?

But America was unknown to the old world and no one denies that there were people living there.

 

[Nietzsche]

Maybe horseback riding was by accident too. I can imagine a cave man climbing a tree to get some bananas. While gathering the bananas a horse comes along and starts humping a tree. The horse rocks the tree so much the caveman falls out of the tree and unto the horse’s back. The horse is startled and runs away with the caveman on its back with his banana his hand. The caveman while riding off into the sunset thinks to himself, “I think I have something here. This just might work”. Hey, you never know, stranger things have happened.

*cough*
Bananas have only been around since the 1830s or so.

 

[SomeRandom]

Wolves attack sheep and livestock and then it make no difference than foxes but you said that human designed them to be helpful for man and hence wolves evolved to dogs, my question is very simple , why humans didn't do the same with foxes, leopards and lions.

Wolves were bigger and more intimidating than foxes so I suppose when our ancestors wanted a companion animal to protect us, they chose the seemingly more responsive and somewhat intimidating wolves over the foxes. Maybe they saw foxes as more annoying. I don't entirely know the full story as I'm not a bloody caveman, mate. Nor am I a Biologist. I have a passing acquaintance with it, that's all. My interests lie elsewhere.If you really want to know more about why we chose to domesticate some animals over others, I suggest talking to an actual Biologist or even an anthropologist perhaps?
As for the Lions and Leopards, I told you. We kind of already did. Read up on domesticated House Cats (who actually didn't undergo that much change during the domestication process, unlike dogs. Which is probably why they're so ebil!) But that's a slightly more complicated affair. Like I said, I leave the floor open to the more learned commenters to explain that one.

Why not the species as well ?

I was being jovial, I do that from time to time. I suspect something is being lost in translation. Maybe we would have eventually created those species. Who knows? This is all speculative anyway. And I don't know what it has to do with anything.

But America was unknown to the old world and no one denies that there were people living there.

So what? If people were already living there, then Columbus can't have bloody discovered it, can he? He found it, sure. But to say he discovered it is to stretch the language a tad. (Although he thought it was India lol)