Why I believe God Created Life.

[Bunyip]

The Fact of Evolution - tried googling it - all that came up was "The Theory of Evolution"... even the abbrev. is ToE, not FoE.

try again.

Theories explain the facts. The Theory of Evolution explans the fact of evolution.

Just as gravity is a fact, and the theory of gravity explains that fact.

It is not a fact - it only explains some evidences which are "circumstantial" and not "undisputed".... heck, the debates are still hot topics in the Oxford Union - tell me - where do you get off claiming that evolution is a fact, when even the professors (whose job it is to profess these truths) cannot make such a claim themselves?????

Seriously, your mind is twisting itself.

The word 'evolution' describes a factual natural phenomenon. Evolution is a fact, the theory explains the fact. Furthermore you are mistaken, that evolution is a fact has not been contested scientifically for more than a generation.

 

[Bunyip]

Well, that's too bad ain't it?

I suppose I'll just wrap it up then. People have faith in science due to their reliance on fallible senses and a fallible ability to interpret those senses. Science is built on a few basic principles that MUST be taken on faith, as well. The predictability of the universe, the adherence to natural laws, etc.

I completely and utterly reject your definition of faith, as there is no person on this planet that exhibits faith in that way about anything at all. Not religious faith. Not faith in your fellow humans. Not faith in science. None of these things lacks evidence. Therefore none of these types of faith fit the definition you've given. There is no faith of that kind anywhere in this entire world.

Not interested mate. Reject whatever definitions you wish to reject. Engaging with you is pointless - you will be rude, aggressive and only address your own , misrepresentations anyway.

 

[Scimitar]

Theories explain the facts. The Theory of Evolution explains the fact of evolution.

Just as gravity is a fact, and the theory of gravity explains that fact.

The word 'evolution' describes a factual natural phenomenon. Evolution is a fact, the theory explains the fact. Furthermore you are mistaken, that evolution is a fact has not been contested scientifically for more than a generation.

Then go and ask your government to call it that - "The Fact of Evolution" they won't - why? BECAUSE ITS STILL A THEORY.... with holes in it, I may add - big, giant, black ones

As for your claim that the theory (which you think is a fact), has not been contested for over a generation - is total utter BS mate.

It's hotly contested.

Even here on the forum its hotly contested, and thats the microcosm outside of the macrocosm example.

 

[Bunyip]

Then go and ask your government to call it that - "The Fact of Evolution" they won't - why? BECAUSE ITS STILL A THEORY.... with holes in it, I may add - big, giant, black ones

But the government DOES call evolution a fact, the theory explains the fact.

You said that you looked it up, but must be pretty bad at looking stuff up - because I found thousands of articles explaining how evolution is a fact on the first attempt.

As for your claim that the theory (which you think is a fact), has not been contested for over a generation - is total utter BS mate.

It's hotly contested.

Not by scientists, or in the scientific literature it isn't.

Even here on the forum its hotly contested, and thats the microcosm outside of the macrocosm example.

Well no. The only people who contest evolution here all make one or more of the same errors listed below;

1. They do not know what the term 'scientific theory' means.
2. They do not know what the term 'evolution' means.
3. They do not know what the term 'macro evolution' means.

I have never seen anybody contest evolution on this forum who actually knew what evolution is. Nor have I ever seen any debate over evolution anywhere else in which the person clai ing that evolution is not a fact actually knew what 'evolution' means.

Evolution is a fact, the ToE explains that fact.

In science the fact of evolution has not been contested in more than a century and the ToE has persisted unchallenged and unfalsified for at least as long.

 

[Sir Doom]

Not interested mate.

You said that before. I believed you.

Reject whatever definitions you wish to reject.

Thanks for approving. Now I feel comfortable doing exactly what I already did.

Engaging with you is pointless - you will be rude, aggressive and only address your own , misrepresentations anyway.

Actually, its pointless because I'm right and you aren't. That I am rude or aggressive has nothing to do with it, true as it may be. That only gives you a tidy out. You're welcome.

In further conclusion, people have faith in science. That's a fact, jack.

 

[Scimitar]

"that's a fact, jack" I like the sound of that one - may i quote it sometime ?

 

[Sir Doom]

"that's a fact, jack" I like the sound of that one - may i quote it sometime ?

No. Evolution is a fact too, jack. You'll have to get over that one, first.

 

[Scimitar]

hehehe its 4.02 am here, I was waiting for someone to make me smile - so i could go sleep happy

Cheers bud,

God bless.

Scimitar

 

[Bunyip]

You said that before. I believed you.

Thanks for approving. Now I feel comfortable doing exactly what I already did.

Actually, its pointless because I'm right and you aren't. That I am rude or aggressive has nothing to do with it, true as it may be. That only gives you a tidy out. You're welcome.

In further conclusion, people have faith in science. That's a fact, jack.

I love reading your 'debates' here. You invent both sides of the argument and endlessly congratulate yourself for 'winning'. Tragic.

 

[Parsimony]

The roundness of the Earth is still contested too. I once saw a whole forum of people who debated the subject.

 

[kashmir]

Anyone that doesn't believe that evolution is a fact, needs to go back to grade school.
There is thousands and thousands of fossils dating all the back to the beginning of life.

Either evolution is true or we are in a sims game and some higher intelligent beings has been coding in life all this time.

 

[Bunyip]

The roundness of the Earth is still contested too. I once saw a whole forum of people who debated the subject.

Yes, as is the cheesiness of the moon and the flight path of the stork who brings babies.

 

[Sir Doom]

I love reading your 'debates' here. You invent both sides of the argument and endlessly congratulate yourself for 'winning'. Tragic.

Funny how you keep not being interested. Seems a lot like being interested.

I didn't make you say that science requires no faith. That was not invented by me. That was your statement. And it was wrong and still is. You refuse to debate. I'm not sure how else I would interpret that. Am I supposed to think, "Oh I must be wrong since he can't answer my questions." ?

Yeah, not gonna happen. What is going to happen is that I will continue to think that you are wrong as I did when I first read your statement. Your inability to answer is exactly the evidence I need to prove that which you so graciously provided.

 

[Scimitar]

Anyone that doesn't believe that evolution is a fact, needs to go back to grade school.
There is thousands and thousands of fossils dating all the back to the beginning of life.

Either evolution is true or we are in a sims game and some higher intelligent beings has been coding in life all this time.

The Latter is the better option for us feel free to call your ancestors apes by all means. Mines were human.

 

[Bunyip]

The Latter is the better option for us feel free to call your ancestors apes by all means. Mines were human.

You are an ape.

Humans are primates.

 

[Scimitar]

I'm a human being.

But I don't deny that your mother and father were apes, giving birth to an ape. If that's what you would like to be

Good day to you

 

[Bunyip]

I'm a human being.

But I don't deny that your mother and father were apes, giving birth to an ape. If that's what you would like to be

Good day to you

You are an ape, your mother and father are apes.

You are an ape in the same group as the other great apes.

Humans are primates.

 

[starless]

BECAUSE ITS STILL A THEORY.... with holes in it, I may add - big, giant, black ones

42 pages into this discussion and you still haven't grasped what the word "theory" means. And yet you claim to know that the ToE is flawed? Embarassing.

Look up the definitions. Look at the evidence. It's not that hard.

 

[outhouse]

Mines were human.

No, no they were not.

They are descendants of a primate. This is about as factual as gravity.

 

[outhouse]

I'm a human being.

I don't think you will get an award though.



There is a large group of people who refuse facts and knowledge and hate education due to theistic bias.


Your transparency is noted.