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Why I believe God Created Life.

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
Dear Simurgh, ....snip............snip..............and some more snip...........
Aman

You always talk about proof and how right you are in your interpretation of what goes on in your brain. Yet, what exactly have you proven or can you prove? All this quoting of the bible means nothing. Your claims of knowing stuff, without ever actually saying what it is you think you may know or what any of it has to do with reality and/or has meaning is just pointless. When you run out of nonsense to quote then you accuse me of calling you names. I realize you like to use the ad hominem mode of attack, but that does not make anything you say true or even mildly relevant.
Even bold and red font makes no difference, other than showing that you can scream. In the final analysis, all that alluding to all that truth that you say you know is meaningless, because you cannot even articulate it. In short, you have nothing of substance to say. All those posts and not one thing that would convince anyone that you can do anything besides waste space. Of course we help with that because we would like to figure out what by Hel you go on and on about.
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
You always talk about proof and how right you are in your interpretation of what goes on in your brain. Yet, what exactly have you proven or can you prove? All this quoting of the bible means nothing. Your claims of knowing stuff, without ever actually saying what it is you think you may know or what any of it has to do with reality and/or has meaning is just pointless. When you run out of nonsense to quote then you accuse me of calling you names. I realize you like to use the ad hominem mode of attack, but that does not make anything you say true or even mildly relevant.
Even bold and red font makes no difference, other than showing that you can scream. In the final analysis, all that alluding to all that truth that you say you know is meaningless, because you cannot even articulate it. In short, you have nothing of substance to say. All those posts and not one thing that would convince anyone that you can do anything besides waste space. Of course we help with that because we would like to figure out what by Hel you go on and on about.

Dear Simurgh, I am sorry that you disagree with me and God. It means that you will probably grow old while becoming more and more cynical, mean, and Negative in your thinking. I sincerly hope that you will repent of those ways and choose instead, to follow God's Truth instead of man's. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

ScuzManiac

Active Member
Dear Simurgh, I am sorry that you disagree with me and God. It means that you will probably grow old while becoming more and more cynical, mean, and Negative in your thinking. I sincerly hope that you will repent of those ways and choose instead, to follow God's Truth instead of man's. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I don't think he was saying that he disagrees with you.

I think he's saying what I've been saying.

You make claims that you get defensive about...

That you cannot prove.

In fact, 99% of your claims aren't even in your Bible.

You show a verse that 99.9% of the world has agreed means one thing...

And you say it means something else.
 

McBell

Unbound
You always talk about proof and how right you are in your interpretation of what goes on in your brain. Yet, what exactly have you proven or can you prove? All this quoting of the bible means nothing. Your claims of knowing stuff, without ever actually saying what it is you think you may know or what any of it has to do with reality and/or has meaning is just pointless. When you run out of nonsense to quote then you accuse me of calling you names. I realize you like to use the ad hominem mode of attack, but that does not make anything you say true or even mildly relevant.
Even bold and red font makes no difference, other than showing that you can scream. In the final analysis, all that alluding to all that truth that you say you know is meaningless, because you cannot even articulate it. In short, you have nothing of substance to say. All those posts and not one thing that would convince anyone that you can do anything besides waste space. Of course we help with that because we would like to figure out what by Hel you go on and on about.

I suspect this is his first time trying to preach outside his choir...
 

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
I suspect this is his first time trying to preach outside his choir...
Just following along with the theme, is a choir of one really a choir?

Dear Simurgh, I am sorry that you disagree with me and God. It means that you will probably grow old while becoming more and more cynical, mean, and Negative in your thinking. I sincerly hope that you will repent of those ways and choose instead, to follow God's Truth instead of man's. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
ah the patronizing mode is kicking in again. I am not negative, I am just asking questions to which you have no answer. Lighten up, at this point your assumptions about your assumptions in regards to me are repetitive, wrong headed and plain ridiculous. Stop projecting your failings onto me. You are neither good at it nor subtle enough to make this a worthwhile exercise in futility.
 
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ScuzManiac

Active Member
No wonder you are so confused. IF you will take my challenge, I will prove to you that God created. That's because God is the Author of Scripture. Will you take my challenge to explain HOW ancient men, who lived thousands of years ago, knew that we live in a Multiverse, composed of at least 3 Heavens? The Europeans should announce this soon, since the Republicans took away the funding for a Science project, which the Europeans continued. All you have to do is explain HOW those ancient men knew that, along with many other Scientific discoveries, which are yet to happen.

I'll take that challenge.

They didn't know that because it's not mentioned anywhere in The Bible.

It doesn't say "there are 3 Heavens."

It doesn't say "we live in a multiverse" or "there is more than one universe."

YOU take what's there and give us your own interpretation of it.

An interpretation mind you that is in NONE of the (how many?) translations of The Bible.
 

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
I'll take that challenge.

They didn't know that because it's not mentioned anywhere in The Bible.

It doesn't say "there are 3 Heavens."

It doesn't say "we live in a multiverse" or "there is more than one universe."

YOU take what's there and give us your own interpretation of it.

An interpretation mind you that is in NONE of the (how many?) translations of The Bible.

Well, you know he did say one true thing, "many other Scientific discoveries, which are yet to happen". But it is clearly not enough to validate anything else he spouts from that deep, deep well of incoherent musings he likes to pass of as esoteric knowledge. And I am using the term knowledge in its most charitable form.

So let's just not fall off the chair laughing when he provides yet another missive full of assertions that fly in the face of common sense--yes, even religious people use it--and let him dwell among his favorite goat herders in glorious ignorance.

...time for coffee and a reality check...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well, you know he did say one true thing, "many other Scientific discoveries, which are yet to happen". But it is clearly not enough to validate anything else he spouts from that deep, deep well of incoherent musings he likes to pass of as esoteric knowledge. And I am using the term knowledge in its most charitable form.
I overheard a relevant conversation today. (I often go to a local church, hide in
the bushes outside, & listen on the rainbow coffee klatch of local clerical elite.)
Names have been changed to protect the indolent.

Bob: So, what have scientists theorized today?
Hymie: Space expanded faster than the speed of light right after the Big Bang.
Sue: Did the Bible predict this?
Hamid: Did the Koran predict it also?
Stan: I'll begin the "research" <snicker> on the <guffaw> matter.
Homa: Is it not a wonderful aspect of ancient poetic writing that we may read whatever
we need into our sacred scriptures to "predict" whatever a scientist might say!
Jim: Tomorrow, we shall in retrospect predict string theory, multiverses, & general relativity.

It's true! I'm not making this up.
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
I suspect this is his first time trying to preach outside his choir...

Dear Mestermia, Do you ever get anything right? I've been online for more than 18 years debating the Lies of Evolution with real Evols, instead of the amateurs here. Professors, people with Masters degrees, and degrees in physics, are counted among my friends online, even though they don't necessarily agree with my views. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
I'll take that challenge.

They didn't know that because it's not mentioned anywhere in The Bible.

It doesn't say "there are 3 Heavens."

It doesn't say "we live in a multiverse" or "there is more than one universe."

YOU take what's there and give us your own interpretation of it.

An interpretation mind you that is in NONE of the (how many?) translations of The Bible.

Dear Scuz, You are correct that the Bible doesn't' say what you quoted and wished it would say, in order for any old heathen to understand it. That is because God is particular about those who will live forever, and He wouldn't want some of the especially nasty unbelievers, to stay around making problems for everyone else. Therefore, He allows them a free choice, to be forever in the darkness of their own minds. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
I overheard a relevant conversation today. (I often go to a local church, hide in
the bushes outside, & listen on the rainbow coffee klatch of local clerical elite.)
Names have been changed to protect the indolent.

Bob: So, what have scientists theorized today?
Hymie: Space expanded faster than the speed of light right after the Big Bang.
Sue: Did the Bible predict this?
Hamid: Did the Koran predict it also?
Stan: I'll begin the "research" <snicker> on the <guffaw> matter.
Homa: Is it not a wonderful aspect of ancient poetic writing that we may read whatever
we need into our sacred scriptures to "predict" whatever a scientist might say!
Jim: Tomorrow, we shall in retrospect predict string theory, multiverses, & general relativity.

It's true! I'm not making this up.
So, if I wanted to hide out behind the bushes with you--if THE WIFE has no problems with that, it's for scientific inquiry after all--could you bring the chairs and I take care of the liquid refreshment and snacks? Sounds like there is some opportunity for "fieldwork" here.
 

McBell

Unbound
Dear Mestermia, Do you ever get anything right? I've been online for more than 18 years debating the Lies of Evolution with real Evols, instead of the amateurs here. Professors, people with Masters degrees, and degrees in physics, are counted among my friends online, even though they don't necessarily agree with my views. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

To be perfectly honest, I do not believe you.

You spew more bull **** than any other member I have encountered on Religious Forums.

And that is saying something.
 

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
Dear Mestermia, Do you ever get anything right? I've been online for more than 18 years debating the Lies of Evolution with real Evols, instead of the amateurs here. Professors, people with Masters degrees, and degrees in physics, are counted among my friends online, even though they don't necessarily agree with my views. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

First and foremost, you do realize that those diploma mills attached to the various creationist “college” are not real degrees right? Second, I am sure that there are other people, besides me, here who have graduate degrees. In many cases we have more than one, and they all were earned in fields other than Bible Banging for Cash. So, if this is another attempt to argue from authority, you are once more basking in the glow of an epic fail.


The fact that you have been at it for 18 years simply shows that you do not possess a learning curve and have been unsuccessful at convincing anyone of the relevance of whatever it is you are peddling. If you had succeeded at it, you would not be whining about the error of your ways here in this forum.
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
First and foremost, you do realize that those diploma mills attached to the various creationist “college” are not real degrees right? Second, I am sure that there are other people, besides me, here who have graduate degrees. In many cases we have more than one, and they all were earned in fields other than Bible Banging for Cash. So, if this is another attempt to argue from authority, you are once more basking in the glow of an epic fail.

The fact that you have been at it for 18 years simply shows that you do not possess a learning curve and have been unsuccessful at convincing anyone of the relevance of whatever it is you are peddling. If you had succeeded at it, you would not be whining about the error of your ways here in this forum.

Dear Simurgh, Learn to read. Many of my friends are atheists and agnostics, with a small number of Bible Believing Christians, in the bunch. Probably, my best friend, that has tried her best to refute me, on my regular board, is an Atheist. I've seen some of the posts since I left and she is telling other Evols what I posted.

Just think about what you are saying. You seem to believe that Christians are just ready to listen to anyone. It's because you are looking down on them from your Ivory Tower and consider them beneath you. Correct? In the end, everyone will see that your view is not the one to follow. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
Dear Simurgh, Learn to read. Many of my friends are atheists and agnostics, with a small number of Bible Believing Christians, in the bunch. Probably, my best friend, that has tried her best to refute me, on my regular board, is an Atheist. I've seen some of the posts since I left and she is telling other Evols what I posted.

Just think about what you are saying. You seem to believe that Christians are just ready to listen to anyone. It's because you are looking down on them from your Ivory Tower and consider them beneath you. Correct? In the end, everyone will see that your view is not the one to follow. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
Yeah, you really are very selective in your readings. But whatever, if you are still going on about your past posts on some forum then you truly are deluded. And I too have shared some of your posts with others and we are still laughing about the convoluted nonsense.

Funny too, first we are a bunch of illiterate ignoramuses and now you complain about me and others who have degrees as sitting in ivory towers and looking down on you. So what you are saying that people with degrees you consider to be friends--whatever that may mean to you--as being the "good" academics, and the rest of us are just snobs.

And what about those christans who do or do not want to listen? Why would I care what they do with that crap you try to pass as information? As far as it goes, there have yet to be any here who think your diatribes worth while to contemplate, much less engage in discourse of any meaningful manner with you. Most of them are just too polite to tell you straight out that your nonsense is making them howl with laughter. Hence, they have not participated in the banter. Or didn't you notice that?
 

s2a

Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
Evolution claims life arose from a series of chance events. The Bible says life came from God. This quote regarding a "simple" prokaryotic cell, or a cell without a nucleus, demonstrates the impossibility of life arising from chance, IMO. (Quote from The Origins of Life - Five Questions Worth Asking published by Jehovah's witnesses)

"What does the evidence reveal? Advances in microbiology have made it possible to peer into the awe-inspiring interior of the simplest living prokaryotic cells known. Evolutionary scientists theorize that the first living cells must have looked something like these cells.

If the theory of evolution is true, it should offer a plausible explanation of how the first “simple” cell formed by chance. On the other hand, if life was created, there should be evidence of ingenious design even in the smallest of creatures. Why not take a tour of a prokaryotic cell? As you do so, ask yourself whether such a cell could arise by chance.

THE CELL’S PROTECTIVE WALL

To tour a prokaryotic cell, you would have to shrink to a size that is hundreds of times smaller than the period at the end of this sentence. Keeping you out of the cell is a tough, flexible membrane that acts like a brick and mortar wall surrounding a factory. It would take some 10,000 layers of this membrane to equal the thickness of a sheet of paper. But the membrane of a cell is much more sophisticated than the brick wall. In what ways?

Like the wall surrounding a factory, the membrane of a cell shields the contents from a potentially hostile environment. However, the membrane is not solid; it allows the cell to “breathe,” permitting small molecules, such as oxygen, to pass in or out. But the membrane blocks more complex, potentially damaging molecules from entering without the cell’s permission. The membrane also prevents useful molecules from leaving the cell. How does the membrane manage such feats?

Think again of a factory. It might have security guards who monitor the products that enter and leave through the doorways in the factory wall. Similarly, the cell membrane has special protein molecules embedded in it that act like the doors and the security guards.

Some of these proteins (1) have a hole through the middle of them that allows only specific types of molecules in and out of the cell. Other proteins are open on one side of the cell membrane (2) and closed on the other. They have a docking site (3) shaped to fit a specific substance. When that substance docks, the other end of the protein opens and releases the cargo through the membrane (4). All this activity is happening on the surface of even the simplest of cells."

That is just the beginning of the complexity encountered in so-called simple cells.

OK.

You are wrong.

97% of climatologists agree that climate-change is caused by mankind.

Even more biologists agree that evolution happens. Daily.

Please return when you can offer testable evidences that discredit or outright defy ANY proofs of evolution. That's what "theories" offer all skeptics. Simple, evidential, testable, repeatable experimentation. Simple.

Theories offer one added component.

Prediction.

"If "X" is true, then eventually "X" will be seen/found/discovered.

It's not enough to question scientific theories (any crank can do that much)... you bear the responsibility to positively refute established/scientifically derived fact.

The world is not flat, and is not orbited by our Sun.

FACT.

NOT debatable.

But please understand, we are listening... just not to cranks.
 
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