SeekingAllTruth
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They must be halfway to Andromeda by now. if they'd just hung around Andromeda would have come to them.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/andromeda-milky-way-galaxy-black-hole-collision-simulation
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Why I CANNOT Believe in The Resurrection
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They must be halfway to Andromeda by now. if they'd just hung around Andromeda would have come to them.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/andromeda-milky-way-galaxy-black-hole-collision-simulation
Trailblazer
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I serve no masters, I serve only God.
Colt
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That being the case you should think more seriously about undermining God.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
That would make me a nonconpoop according to some.Yeah but you conform about nonconforming!
Good!
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Srrsly?! God is so vulnerable and weak that one anonymous Internet poster can undermine God? How exciting to have power over God!
If you understand God to mean one's personal beliefs, yes, you are threat to God for them. To challenge one's beliefs, can be seen as blasphemy by those who confuse what they believe about God, as God himself.
Colt
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Not true, Jesus didn't go around with a chip on his shoulder looking to be offended.
They crucified him because he was a conformist? That seems odd.
///Notice I didn't say, "I refuse to" The point is I cannot believe in it.
I watched a debate on the resurrection this morning. At some point, Matt Dillahunty came out and asked "Do you have anything outside the Bible to support the resurrection." Jonathan McLatchie answered. "NO."
That's it in a nutshell. All apologists--Craig, Licona, Horn, Woods, et al use nothing but the Bible to lay out their "evidence" Jesus rose. Claim: the apostles saw something that convinced them. Fact: There is no secular evidence anywhere outside the Bible that mentions the apostles. Claim: the empty tomb. Fact we have no empty tomb. Claim: the apostles were willing to die for their belief. Fact: we have nothing inside and outside the Bible that mentions what most of the apostles subsequently did or how they died. Claim: There were eyewitnesses. Fact: Nobody outside the Bible recorded a single thing about seeing Jesus after he was crucified.
Outrageous claim:
The historical evidence shows that: the grave was empty; the grave clothes were neatly left behind; the stone enclosing the tomb was rolled away; the body of Jesus was never found.
10 Concise Pieces of Evidence for the Resurrection - The Gospel Coalition | Canada
WHAT historical evidence????????
I mean in the link above it gets much MUCH worse than that.
Fact: take away the Bible and any "proof" for Jesus' resurrection collapses.
take away the Bible and any "proof" for Jesus' resurrection collapses.///
This is kinda silly . Why would you take the main source off the table ? That makes no sense . Who made that the rule ?
Colt
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Then Abraham said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’ ”
Jesus said to His disciples, “It is inevitable that stumbling blocks will come, but woe to the one through whom they come! It would be better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
That’s not the definition of “nonconformist.” Seems as though your posts display being offended by someone else’s perspectives, such that they brand people with unflattering names...
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I could say the same to you.
“O people, if ye deny these verses, by what proof have ye believed in God? Produce it, O assemblage of false ones.
Nay, by the One in Whose hand is my soul, they are not, and never shall be able to do this, even should they combine to assist one another...............
Thus have their superstitions become veils between them and their own hearts and kept them from the path of God, the Exalted, the Great.
Be thou assured in thyself that verily, he who turns away from this Beauty hath also turned away from the Messengers of the past and showeth pride towards God from all eternity to all eternity.”
Bahá’u’lláh, Tablet of Ahmad
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Perhaps a theological reality check is in order.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
What does this thinly-veiled “accusation” have to do with undermining a weak God? Differing perspectives can only add to humanity’s understanding — not limit it. Thanks for the humorous misuse of sacred text, though.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Because corroboration between sources is necessary. The point is that there are no other sources to corroborate.
But that’s ok, because Christian faith isn’t about proof. Or even about establishing facts. It’s about living into an example.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Seems like the conforming establishment were the ones who were offended. And had a chip on their shoulders.
Colt
Well-Known Member
You can, its meaningless, that's the word of a deluded false prophet. My shepherd is the Son of God. You don't like his words and side with those who sought his destruction.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What makes you think that she does not like Jesus's words? She does not appear to follow your interpretation of his words. You should not conflate the two. And she definitely does not side with those that sought his destruction.
Nope , Faith is trusting because of assurance of the claim .
The bible isn't one book . Its 66 books over 1500 years , over 40 different authors .