Why is homosexuality wrong?

[sovietchild]

What is wrong with those people who support homosexual acts? maybe they just don't care about others

 

[Rick O'Shez]

What is wrong with those people who support homosexual acts? maybe they just don't care about others

I have gay friends who have suffered abuse because of the kind of bigotry you spout. Shame on you.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What is wrong with those people who support homosexual acts?

Nothing. We're the ones trying to get along with everyone. It should be asked what is wrong with those who are opposed to it, and why do they keep putting up the same "studies" that have been thoroughly discredited?

maybe they just don't care about others

We care very much. We aren't the ones saying "you're sick" or "you're a pervert" or trying to keep them from housing, jobs, equal access to public facilities, and equality under the law.

 

[SomeRandom]

In some countries pointing a finger at someone might not turn out pretty. In America its okay to cross your legs while seated, while in some other countries it might be offensive.

Yeah cultural standards. So what does that have to do with percentages of homosexuality and STIs in specific regions again?

 

[rusra02]

Pedophilia seems to be have been approved by God. On multiple occasions. Which is odd. You guys associate, unfairly, homosexuality with pedophilia, just to use an analogy with something disturbing like pedophilia, while God actually approved it.

Ciao

- viole

Can you give an example of where God seems to approve pedophilia? BTW, I did not associate pedophilia with homosexuality.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

What is wrong with those people who support homosexual acts?

Nothing. What is even right about those who obsess over what consenting adults do in private?

maybe they just don't care about others

They understand the concept of privacy and not poking their noses in uninvited. Indeed, LGBT allies like myself demonstrate a greater amount of sympathy towards gay people than homophobes because we don't base our position upon judging gay people as wrong, mentally ill, diseased etc. We also base our opinions off of observable, verifiable facts. Gay cure therapy does not work. 'Pray away the gay' does not work. Asking people to repress a vital part of themselves that ultimately does not harm anyone does not work. They're human beings like us and they love who they love.

 

[rusra02]

So if heterosexuality was, for some stupid reason considered to be a sin in the Bible, you'd be fine with suppressing your attraction to those of the opposite sex, and be content to go through life never loving or being loved by anyone. This is the equivalent. It isn't a matter of not perpetrating a sexual crime such as pedophilia, but because you aren't homosexual and are denied heterosexual sexual contact you're eliminating all chance of ever expressing love and attraction toward anyone, AND receiving the same in return. Thing is, just like heterosexuality, homosexuality is not a chosen attraction, and denying it is to eliminate all feelings and expressions of love for a special person. Homosexuals can no more turn off their homosexual urges than heterosexuals can turn off theirs, and believe me, homosexuals are not going to be procreating just to get god off their backs. Nope, they're going to either reject him or interpret the Bible to suit their needs. The way most Christians approach the book

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I do not accept your claim that homosexuals cannot control their urges and desires; we are not, or should not, be slaves to the passions and desires of the flesh, IMO. Certainly changing one's desires for immorality is not easy. First century Christians, some of whom practiced homosexual conduct, and others who practiced fornication and adultery, before becoming Christians, were able to change their entire personality. I believe what the Bible says at 1 Corinthians 6:9-11; "Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom. And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God." So I believe that coming to accurately know God and his Son is vital to making such changes.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

...we are not, or should not, be slaves to the passions and desires of the flesh, IMO.

By that logic everyone should be celibate.

 

[rusra02]

I don't know where you got the idea that I said: 'homosexual acts would be perfectly okay in God's eyes' when I actually did say: "One would think that marriage between same-sex partners, who remain celibate, would be perfectly okay in God's eyes."

One might also think denying a relationship, 3 times, to Jesus would be 'disloyal to the true God' and yet, in some traditions that person is deserving of sainthood.

Peter denying Jesus was an act of disloyalty, one Peter quickly regretted and repented. He was forgiven, which I find encouraging. The true God is "good and ready to forgive." (Psalm 86:5) As to same sex marriage, I believe the Bible makes clear that God purposed marriage to between a man and a woman. (Genesis 2:22-24) Since homosexual conduct is clearly condemned in the Holy Scriptures, it is inconceivable to me that God would approve of any such union or "marriage" .

 

[Rick O'Shez]

... it is inconceivable to me that God would approve of any such union or "marriage" .

It is inconceivable to me that God would CARE.

 

[viole]

Can you give an example of where God seems to approve pedophilia? BTW, I did not associate pedophilia with homosexuality.

Forget it, I got confused.

Ciao

- viole

 

[ADigitalArtist]

He asked Adam and Eve to reproduce and populate the world, didn't He? So, how could the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve populate the world, in your opinion? Or did He expect poor Adam and Eve to have seven billion kids?

Ciao

- viole

You mean incest then? Pedophilia is desire for prepubescent kids.

 

[viole]

You mean incest then? Pedophilia is desire for prepubescent kids.

Darn. I stand corrected. I mixed the two. My useless English, again.

Ciao

- viole

 

[mojtaba]

If we think about the most important reason of sexual intercourse, which is indeed the maintaining of generation, there is not any reason for homosexuality, because it doesn't help to this goal.

But if we ignore logic and reason, and only follow our desires, we can made them(i.e., desires) our gods and pray them by doing them.

I believe that reason is the most important thing in humans. If we can follow its orders, why should we follow the desires?

 

[Skwim]

I do not accept your claim that homosexuals cannot control their urges and desires; we are not, or should not, be slaves to the passions and desires of the flesh, IMO.

Don't forget that heterosexuals do the very same thing, engage in passions and desires of the flesh. But the important point to keep in mind is that just like heterosexuality, homosexuality is far more than passions and desires of the flesh. It's also about the love for a particular individual. It's like the attraction and love I imagine your parents have for one another. EXACT SAME THING only it's directed toward a person of the same sex. Everything that revolves around being heterosexual also revolves around being homosexual with the exception of the difference in the sex of the involved pair. So ask yourself, how fair is it to ask a homosexual to give this all up? Think your mother or father would like giving up their love for each other, or just expressing it, because someone told them they had to? "Go ahead and live your life but never dare fall in love with those you're attracted to. OR, never dare physically express your love for such people." This is what it comes down to when people are told not to "submit to homosexual acts," because homosexual acts are no different in their genesis than heterosexual acts. only different in kind. All of which makes one wonder exactly what god has against homosexual acts. You've said it's because homosexuals don't reproduce, evidently a command that every heterosexual is obligated to adhere to. Yet, as I've pointed out, there are all kinds of heterosexuals who have never reproduced, and I've never heard that they're headed to hell because of it. So I honestly doubt that lack of reproduction is god's reason for condemning homosexuality, which leaves his reason still up in the air. Frankly, it appears to be no more than an instance of, "I just don't like it," The reasoning of a nine year-old.


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[sovietchild]

What is wrong with those people who support anal sex? Nothing? Maybe they are just stupid. Don't you think so?

Don't you think its better if people don't do homosexual acts and just make pure natural love?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Nice sound bite logic. Makes me willing to budge from my position....

...Not even a little bit.

Let us know when you're ready to face reality.

 

[SkepticThinker]

In some countries pointing a finger at someone might not turn out pretty. In America its okay to cross your legs while seated, while in some other countries it might be offensive.

What on earth does that have to do with the prevalence of homosexuality around the world?

 

[SkepticThinker]

What is wrong with those people who support homosexual acts? maybe they just don't care about others

Quite the opposite. I care very much whether people are happy. That's why I leave them alone to do what makes them happy (especially since they're not harming anyone).

Nothing. What is even right about those who obsess over what consenting adults do in private?

They understand the concept of privacy and not poking their noses in uninvited. Indeed, LGBT allies like myself demonstrate a greater amount of sympathy towards gay people than homophobes because we don't base our position upon judging gay people as wrong, mentally ill, diseased etc. We also base our opinions off of observable, verifiable facts. Gay cure therapy does not work. 'Pray away the gay' does not work. Asking people to repress a vital part of themselves that ultimately does not harm anyone does not work. They're human beings like us and they love who they love.

This ^^^^

 

[SkepticThinker]

I do not accept your claim that homosexuals cannot control their urges and desires; we are not, or should not, be slaves to the passions and desires of the flesh, IMO. Certainly changing one's desires for immorality is not easy. First century Christians, some of whom practiced homosexual conduct, and others who practiced fornication and adultery, before becoming Christians, were able to change their entire personality. I believe what the Bible says at 1 Corinthians 6:9-11; "Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom. And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God." So I believe that coming to accurately know God and his Son is vital to making such changes.

Sexual orientation is not an action or a behavior.