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That doesn't make it controversial. That just makes it talked about.It is simply because people like to talk about anything that has to do with sexuality.
I both agree and disagree. I think certain countries are more open with certain things, but I think there is always at least one topic that a country is not open about. Although certainly, some are definitely more open than another in general.I'd have to say that it depends on the country as well. Certain countries are more open with their sexuality than others and therefore it is less of a controversy in those countries.
I definitely agree! I think that ties in to what I was saying - we're taught to be ashamed of ourselves. Once we're not taught that, I think the problem will be mostly gone.When the human body is accepted for what it is and the actions of which are talked about openly then the controversies surrounding sex and sexuality will die down. There are those who, though in a locker-room of those of the same gender, will go into a stall to change their clothes. Why? We are all the same...just different sizes and colors. If more people realized that the human body is nothing to be ashamed of then maybe things will change.
do you have something to support that? because from what I've read, people like Jefferson and Franklin were very ahead of their time with their ideas on human rights, including human sexuality.because this country was founded by prudes.
Sexuality is rooted deeply within our psychologically. It is a powerful thing. How we regard it, our treatment of it, and our experience with it has significant changes to our psychology and our relationships. Its not like other recreational activities such as playing darts.Sunstone said:Whether one is talking about abortion, the age of consent, oral sex, HIV/AIDS, homosexuality or something else, topics that involve human sexuality are among the most controversial topics around. Why is that so? What is the root reason(s) that human sexuality is so controversial?
I have a friend who believes that the root reason is power. He argues that elites (religious and political) use human sexuality as a wedge to gain control over the masses of people. By scaring or conjoling people into following their prescriptions for what is proper or improper sexuality, they gain power over people. Does his theory hold any water? What do you think?
Is there a better explanation for why human sexuality is so controversial?
Makes sense. Frubals to you.Prima said:Hmmm. Here's what I think - I agree with Freud.
The first experience we have with sexuality is ourselves. Even fetuses masturbate. But then, when we're one or two years old, we start to get slaps on the wrist, and a 'No! that's bad and icky!' So our desires for sexual satisfaction are shoved under into our unconcious mind. Then maybe during puberty we start thinking we want to have sex - "No! that's not good!" Then we are attracted to a brother, sister, parent, friend, or someone of the same sex - "That's gross!" So all these sexual impulses are shoved under. Then whenever we start talking about something sexual, the unconcious goes "WHOA! red alert! bad! bad! bad!" and we start to freak out a little. Then our impulses try to slip out and we freak out even more.
I think that if we weren't forced to attach negative emotions and guilt to sexuality from the start, it wouldn't make people so nervous.
But I think all of the above ideas are true, also. I think it's the combination of it all that makes it so bad.
Please explain how people "control" sexuality and what power they gain by it.Sunstone said:Can anyone think of a reason why people like James Dobson oppose homosexual marriages other than as a means of gaining and maintaining power?
More broadly, can anyone think of reason why the same people whip up a near hysteria about all things sexual in our society other than as a means of gaining and maintaining power?
It is a facet of the human being that we often shout out against those things that we are worried may be in us. That certainly doesn't answer your first question, Sunstone, but it might be a contributary factor to the second part. It is also useful to promulgate a cause that you know will cause the public to polarise their ideas in the direction which is 'safer'- ie in dealing with matters of sex, say that the 'average' heterosexual couple find the thought of 'homosexual unions' uncomfortable to think of, it is a useful tool to shout out against homosexuality to ensure a great 'vote of aprobation' by the general population.Sunstone said:Can anyone think of a reason why people like James Dobson oppose homosexual marriages other than as a means of gaining and maintaining power?
More broadly, can anyone think of reason why the same people whip up a near hysteria about all things sexual in our society other than as a means of gaining and maintaining power?
That's a great question, Atofel!atofel said:Please explain how people "control" sexuality and what power they gain by it.
Because they cannot control it in their personal lives or the lives of anyone else.Sunstone said:Can anyone think of a reason why people like James Dobson oppose homosexual marriages other than as a means of gaining and maintaining power?
More broadly, can anyone think of reason why the same people whip up a near hysteria about all things sexual in our society other than as a means of gaining and maintaining power?
First off, you will have a hard time finding someone who believes it is a good thing for someone to use any such lobby as a means to gain power. I don't care if they are the pro-choice lobby, or the pro-life lobby, it is bad news.Sunstone said:That's a great question, Atofel!
A person like James Dobson makes all his money from donations given to him by his followers. So, he needs an issue that is capable of rousing his followers to send him money. If he doesn't have an issue that resonates with his followers, he goes poor. Dobson (and others) have hit on the fact that human sexuality issues can be played up in ways that persuade people to send them money. The way they play them up is usually to say something pretty close to "civilization will collapse if X is allowed." (Dobson has actually said, for instance, that civilization will collapse if homosexual marriages are allowed.) When it isn't "civilization will collapse", then its some other dire consequence will come about if X is allowed.
With money comes power and influence.
People like Dobson also gain power and influence by being able to persuade their followers to vote in certain ways ~ say, for a specific Republican candidate. The candidate, if elected, owes Dobson for some of the votes that put the candidate in office. Again, just like with the money issue, the way Dobson (and others) persuade their followers to vote for the candidate is by appealing to human sexuality issues.
I hope this helps.
The problem with your assertion is that an overwhelming majority of voters agree with Dobson, yet I doubt many of them have even heard of him. If you do not see any merit of such a position you may not be trying to understand these people and where they are coming from.Sunstone said:For instance, there does not seem to be any other explanation for the notion that homosexual marriages destroy the sanctity of heterosexual marriages than that the notion was concocted by elites like James Dobson as a means of gaining power and controlling people. Because the notion has absolutely no intellectual or scientific merit. And since it has no intellectual or scientific merit, it is permissible to ask who benefits from promulgating such rubbish? Well, the answer seems to be that elites like James Dobson gain quite a bit from promulgating such rubbish.