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Why is Islam so dangerous?

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Give me Donald as a leader in favour of some mad mullah any day.
No mullah going to lead America anyway so calm down.
Why is Trump so obsessed with kicking "foreign" people out of US when his grandfather as German? Maybe Trump should look at himself and recognize he is not an American?
AND He is married to a former Slovene born person?
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
No mullah going to lead America anyway so calm down.
Why is Trump so obsessed with kicking "foreign" people out of US when his grandfather as German? Maybe Trump should look at himself and recognize he is not an American?
AND He is married to a former Slovene born person?

If you were forced to leave your country and was given a choice between relocating to Iran or the USA, which would you choose and what would be your reasons for that choice?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If you were forced to leave your country and was given a choice between relocating to Iran or the USA, which would you choose and what would be your reasons for that choice?
I would choose to move to Iran.
Why? Because i would be better of with Muslims around me then being forced by a dictator(trump) to do his bidding. Iran would not kill me because i am not a Muslim. And i actually have heritage from Iran back in now own family.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I would choose to move to Iran.
Why? Because i would be better of with Muslims around me then being forced by a dictator(trump) to do his bidding. Iran would not kill me because i am not a Muslim. And i actually have heritage from Iran back in now own family.

If Iran is such a marvellous place to live, why are many Muslims leaving the place in favour of living in the West?

If President Trump’s America is such an awful country, why is it costing so much to stop hordes including Muslims from entering unlawfully?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If Iran is such a marvellous place to live, why are many Muslims leaving the place in favour of living in the West?

If President Trump’s America is such an awful country, why is it costing so much to stop hordes including Muslims from entering unlawfully?
I did not say Iran is a marvelous place, i answer where i would move by the two choices you gave me. Iran has its flaws and error don't misunderstand me on that, their view of the female is not good at all, so that need to be changed.

Many leave their home because they have been told us is a very good place to live. but when they get there they see it is becoming a bad place for foreign.
Some muslims move other countries to spread islam that is for sure. but 99% of them are not extremists. but the little groupe who are extreme, those are the one who get attention.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I did not say Iran is a marvelous place, i answer where i would move by the two choices you gave me. Iran has its flaws and error don't misunderstand me on that, their view of the female is not good at all, so that need to be changed.

Many leave their home because they have been told us is a very good place to live. but when they get there they see it is becoming a bad place for foreign.
Some muslims move other countries to spread islam that is for sure. but 99% of them are not extremists. but the little groupe who are extreme, those are the one who get attention.

I presume that you are not gay.

Iran defends execution of gay people | DW | 12.06.2019
 

Raymann

Active Member
After reading through some of your posts in this thread, I am certain that you are an apologist for terrorism.
Obviously, you're not a very good reader, you totally misunderstood what you read.
I am not an apologist for any kind of terrorism.
You can engage me in a discussion on the subject and I will be glad to admit when I'm wrong (something apologists don't do).
You can begin by citing any specific remark I made and we'll take it from there.
Your agenda is to defend and legitimize terrorism and demonize Islam (like Notanumber) using delusional propaganda.
You need to define what you call terrorism.
I don't need to demonize Islam, Islam has done a very good job for 1400 years in demonizing itself.
I have a question for you Raymann, are you an undercover Wahhabi?
No, I am not.
Any other serious questions from you?
Don't be afraid to be specific and to the point, you're not going to win many discussions by being so subtle and superficial.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
No :) I am as straight as you can be. And i have a female Fianceè.

As a non-gay male, are you not concerned about the plight of gay people in Islamic countries such as Iran?

Would your moral compass not prevent you from living in societies that persecute gays?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
As a non-gay male, are you not concerned about the plight of gay people in Islamic countries such as Iran?

Would your moral compass not prevent you from living in societies that persecute gays?
I think it is wrong to persecute Gay people they way it happens in Iran and some other middle east countries. but no i would not have a problem living there since i am not Gay person my self.
Being homosexual in itself is not something the person chose when he/she was born. But they can choose not to act upon it.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I think it is wrong to persecute Gay people they way it happens in Iran and some other middle east countries. but no i would not have a problem living there since i am not Gay person my self.
Being homosexual in itself is not something the person chose when he/she was born. But they can choose not to act upon it.

I am not gay but I do believe in the freedom of thought.

If consenting adults wish to participate in something that does not detrimentally affect others, I believe they have the right to do so without being persecuted for it.

This would deter me from moving to a country that I knew had a barbaric attitude against anyone even perceived to be gay.

Even you must agree that the USA under President Trump’s leadership is a much freer society than that of Iran.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I am not gay but I do believe in the freedom of thought.

If consenting adults wish to participate in something that does not detrimentally affect others, I believe they have the right to do so without being persecuted for it.

This would deter me from moving to a country that I knew had a barbaric attitude against anyone even perceived to be gay.

Even you must agree that the USA under President Trump’s leadership is a much freer society than that of Iran.
No i do not agree with you on this. I see Trump as one of the worsed leaders in the world. Because he lies in mostly everything he say, or he say one thing and do something different form him self and the rich in US. He does not care about the people, only about him self.
The last thing i heard is that he now do not accept the legal courts anymore, and say he is above the court. he say he do not need to follow the law anymore,
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
No i do not agree with you on this. I see Trump as one of the worsed leaders in the world. Because he lies in mostly everything he say, or he say one thing and do something different form him self and the rich in US. He does not care about the people, only about him self.
The last thing i heard is that he now do not accept the legal courts anymore, and say he is above the court. he say he do not need to follow the law anymore,

If the USA ever ends up as barbaric as Iran, it will not be the fault of President Trump.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
The USA are not the aggressors.

What would the free world be like if it had Iran pointing nuclear missiles at it?
I think Iran would not point nuclear weapon on the world. But i am sure US already do it toward middle east, Russia, Korea, and China, maybe more countries too
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I think Iran would not point nuclear weapon on the world. But i am sure US already do it toward middle east, Russia, Korea, and China, maybe more countries too

I wish I had your faith in Iran.

They are desperate to obtain nuclear weapons so that they use them as a big stick to beat the West into submission.

Iran is economically on its knees but they will never admit that this is self-inflicted.

They believe that if they had enough military power it will be the answer to all their problems.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I wish I had your faith in Iran.

They are desperate to obtain nuclear weapons so that they use them as a big stick to beat the West into submission.

Iran is economically on its knees but they will never admit that this is self-inflicted.

They believe that if they had enough military power it will be the answer to all their problems.
You mirroring US military thoughts and economics on to Iran? That is not so good maybe?
If it was not for the US sanctions toward Iran they would be a better economical country and could help the citizens more then they do today. Because now the only thing they can do to protect them self is to develop weapons strong enough to fight back US military attacks (when they come)
But it look like rightwing people think USA is the only country allowed to have weapons
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
You mirroring US military thoughts and economics on to Iran? That is not so good maybe?
If it was not for the US sanctions toward Iran they would be a better economical country and could help the citizens more then they do today. Because now the only thing they can do to protect them self is to develop weapons strong enough to fight back US military attacks (when they come)
But it look like rightwing people think USA is the only country allowed to have weapons

Here in the UK, we have nuclear weapons and we have a contender to be our next Prime Minister when we have another General Election and that person has vowed never to use them.

The leader of Iran would never make that claim. It would be just the opposite.

When you hold tremendous power, you need to be capable of great restraint.
 
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