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Why is it called mental illness?

Leo613

Active Member
Why is depression called mental illness?
if someone has dementia or amnesia that is mental illness.
if someone is depressed then they have emotional illness.
Why isn't depression called emotional illness?
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
If so, then why are so many of the "molecules of emotion" produced in the brain?
Some people's brans are defective, I suppose. I don't know how it works, but one must first have the capacity to experience emotion, no? Or those whose emotions are 'flat' i.e, there but undisturbed.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Why is depression called mental illness?
if someone has dementia or amnesia that is mental illness.
if someone is depressed then they have emotional illness.
Why isn't depression called emotional illness?

It may be a legacy of 19th century scientific materialism treating mental problems as stemming from the brain and therefore comparable to other physical illnesses. (I'm guessing).

Is there really such a sharp separation between mental and emotional?

I experience depression less as a mood (emotional) and more a state of mind (mental). Even when your happy, the depression is still lingering there in the background- like a sort of gravity waiting or pulling your mood down. So you just have to enjoy the "highs" whilst you still can.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Why is depression called mental illness?
if someone has dementia or amnesia that is mental illness.
if someone is depressed then they have emotional illness.
Why isn't depression called emotional illness?

Depression isn't just emotional. It's a medical condition that's caused from the brain communications (mental). The symptoms are emotional but Depression itself (medical depression rather than the blues), the cause, is not.

Took them almost 40 years to "get it". At least they still didn't get it in my life time until the early 90s and they found the connection between the medical and psychological.

So, I guess a better phrase is all those conditions fall under psychological conditions. I don't care for mental illnesses. I don't know if "mental" is kept like they did before mentally insane, or he's a mental, or mental retardation, etc.

Depression is a mental illness (or psychological illness). The side affects are emotional.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
My experience with the two psychopaths in my family leads me to believe so. Yes, there is.
Now,I know where is problem is came from :eek:
Why you did not tell me this before ?
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Suprise I am just kidding :D
 

Rival

Diex Aie
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Now,I know where is problem is came from :eek:
Why you did not tell me this before ?
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Suprise I am just kidding :D
One is my mom, the second is my uncle. 'Psychopathy' isn't an actual diagnosis, but I use that word because more people are familiar with it.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
depression is more the an emotional problem. it can be catatonic.
Only those who have either suffered depression or had to look after a person suffering from it understands how crippling it is. It warps the entire mind and reasoning process. It is nothing at all like being very sad or emotional.
It can cover a very wide scale of severity, but should never be taken lightly.
the emotional aspect is one of the visible but minor elements of the process.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Why is depression called mental illness?
if someone has dementia or amnesia that is mental illness.
if someone is depressed then they have emotional illness.
Why isn't depression called emotional illness?

Dementia has a proven neurological basis. There's nothing that can stop or reverse neurological diseases. Amnesia is usually a result of physical trauma to the brain. In time the brain may heal. Depression is linked to brain chemistry and doesn't yet seem to be linked to a neurological cause. Providing the missing chemicals is really not different than using thyroid replacement hormone. Why aren't they all classified together as "brain disease" or brain disorder"? Search me!
 

illykitty

RF's pet cat
Well, in the case of depression, it can be related to issues with brain dysfunctions. For example, the reward system of the brain is not working properly. A lot of the emotional responses comes from malfunctions in one's brain and negative thinking patterns. Hence it's a mental health problem.

It's sad that mental health is still not seen as it really is. It's not just an emotional problem. The emotions are more of a symptom rather than the cause, in the long-term chronic ones anyway.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Why is depression called mental illness?
I think that the term "mental illness" is just a huge (somewhat obsolete) category for problems that manifest cognitively, rather than physically.
"Depression" is similar. It's feeling bad about yourself for any of various reasons. It isn't an illness per se, it's a symptom. So depression is categorized as a mental health issue, like mental health is categorized as a medical issue. But the overlap in the categories is huge, because everybody's problems are a little different from anybody else's.
Tom
 

Ana.J

Active Member
Why is depression called mental illness?
if someone has dementia or amnesia that is mental illness.
if someone is depressed then they have emotional illness.
Why isn't depression called emotional illness?

Maybe because they do not know how to deal with emotional problems?
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Why is depression called mental illness?
if someone has dementia or amnesia that is mental illness.
if someone is depressed then they have emotional illness.
Why isn't depression called emotional illness?
Regardless of any possible distinction between the adjectives “mental” and “emotional,” the sole reason for psychiatry's nomenclature of mental “disorder,” “illness,” “disease,” is to try to give legitimacy to the idea that the thoughts, acts and desires that make up the various diagnostic criteria are bad, wrong, harmful and in need of treatment. This fact is most readily seen with the “mental disorders” that were once listed in the DSM but which the APA subsequently decided were not mental disorders--e.g., “Homosexuality,” “Transvestism,” “Gender Identity Disorder,” “Narcissistic Personality Disorder,” and many others (5 of the 10 “personality disorders” were removed from the DSM-5). As these examples illustrate, psychiatric “disorders” are not diseases, illnesses, or biological disorders; they are expressions of disapproval by white Westerners about certain acts, thoughts, feelings and desires.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Some people's brans are defective, I suppose. I don't know how it works, but one must first have the capacity to experience emotion, no? Or those whose emotions are 'flat' i.e, there but undisturbed.
Psychopaths can experience emotion. It's a common misunderstanding that they can't. The problem is that they lack empathy for others, seeing them as objects. It's very similar to pathological narcissism.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Dementia has a proven neurological basis. There's nothing that can stop or reverse neurological diseases. Amnesia is usually a result of physical trauma to the brain. In time the brain may heal.
I more or less agree with all of these statements.

Depression is linked to brain chemistry and doesn't yet seem to be linked to a neurological cause.
What do you mean by "linked"?

Providing the missing chemicals is really not different than using thyroid replacement hormone. Why aren't they all classified together as "brain disease" or brain disorder"? Search me!
No primary mental disorder (i.e.,those classifications that are said to be not due to the effects of a drug or a “general medical condition”) is defined or diagnosed on the basis of objective biological criteria. That is the glaring difference between (primary) mental disorders and biological disorders such as hypothyroidism.
 
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Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Well, in the case of depression, it can be related to issues with brain dysfunctions.
Regardless of what you mean by "related to issues with brain dysfunctions," no Major Depressive Disorder is defined or diagnosed on the basis of any objective biological measurement of "brain function".

Indeed, according to the DSM, the symptoms by which an episode of "depression" is diagnosed are overtly socially relative, i.e., depends on what is "an expectable and culturally sanctioned response to a particular event".
 
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