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Why is it you serve Your God

roli

Born Again,Spirit Filled
How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf
Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?
Is it a image made with man's hand's or is it one your mind has created
What has it done for you?
What hope is there for it's help?
What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf
Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?
Is it a image made with man's hand's or is it one your mind has created
What has it done for you?
What hope is there for it's help?
What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?
It?... God is neither impersonal, nor an inanimate object.
 

Wandered Off

Sporadic Driveby Member
How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf
The only thing I could realistically consider a revelation is the existence of the universe, and even that is debatable as evidence. I would never presume to speak on behalf of God.
Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?
We have no way to know and no way to reliably tell the difference.
What has it done for you?
If anything, it has indirectly caused my existence. I don't see any reason I should expect more.
What hope is there for it's help?
Existence is all the help we get. Selectively helping some while letting others flounder in despair or worse would be unethical at best, and in any case I don't hold an anthropocentric view that any human is getting additional divine assistance.
What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?
My life is not significant enough to warrant divine intent, nor does God require my service. The way I see it, to think otherwise may reflect an exaggerated sense of self-importance. God is certainly not stressing over whether I believe or longing for my companionship. I'm a nice enough guy, but I'm not God's gift to God.
 

roli

Born Again,Spirit Filled
It?... God is neither impersonal, nor an inanimate object.

Before you stone me ,understand the question is directed to those who have or follow other gods besides the Christian God,some are images ,some are spirits,some are impersonal and some are inanimate.

This was not an, "only christians" question,otherwise I would have specified.
I am born again if you have'nt picked this up in other posts and threads by now.
I know the father Son and Holy Ghost are not impersonal forces but active and on the contrary very personal.
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
Before you stone me ,understand the question is directed to those who have or follow other gods besides the Christian God,some are images ,some are spirits,some are impersonal and some are inanimate.

This was not an, "only Christians" question,otherwise I would have specified.
I am born again if you havn't picked this up in other posts and threads by now.
I know the father Son and Holy Ghost are not impersonal forces but active and on the contrary very personal.

Maybe before you go and call others God image, "spirit", impersonal, or even inanimate you go and learn about other religions Gods and Goddess. And to answer you, like I said in another thread, I do not serve any God, they are my teachers, mentor and friends, you don't serve them do you, same goes for the My God friends.
 

roli

Born Again,Spirit Filled
Maybe before you go and call others God image, "spirit", impersonal, or even inanimate you go and learn about other religions Gods and Goddess. And to answer you, like I said in another thread, I do not serve any God, they are my teachers, mentor and friends, you don't serve them do you, same goes for the My God friends.

I said some have gods that are all of the above and more, don't get caught up in semantics here ,I was only making a point to Sojouner that I am not only asking about the Christian God ,but also those who have many forms of a god.

This is not personal ,so lighten up already and follow the threads in context
 

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
I know my answers are probably going to be very vague and what I consider to be evidence may not be for you.

How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf
Through feeling and intuition. Just a sort of "inner knowing"

Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?
rephrase?

I don't think so. What I call god has different meaning to what other people call god. Someone though just has a "wrong" definition of it.

Is it a image made with man's hand's or is it one your mind has created
No real image. I just see god as a part and apart of the universe and I.

What has it done for you?
Aside from giving me a playground and letting me do what I like? Nothing - I need nothing more.

What hope is there for it's help?
I don't feel like I need help just being here and living and experiencing

What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?
To experience what it is like to be apart of god and to remember being a part of god. I do not serve anyone.
 

roli

Born Again,Spirit Filled
I know my answers are probably going to be very vague and what I consider to be evidence may not be for you
I appreciate your honesty .I agree and do not expect you do think otherwise.
We all have an idea ,concept or even a personal expereince as I do, to who and what God is


Through feeling and intuition. Just a sort of "inner knowing"

Thats fair to say, not always knowing what it is that causes us to know ,just knowing that it comes from deep inside keeps us on tract,searching for answers from that inner knowledge is what keeps us going


I don't think so. What I call god has different meaning to what other people call god. Someone though just has a "wrong" definition of it.

So ,true ,we all have persoanl views of God ,but we can't all be correct, how many truths can there be concerning God, that is the one true God.
Even the gods must have some original , hierarchy God who is above them all.


No real image. I just see god as a part and apart of the universe and I.
I agree ,he is everywhere in sight and not as mystical and unssearchable as many make him out to be.


Aside from giving me a playground and letting me do what I like? Nothing - I need nothing more.
That sounds like one who is grateful just to be alive ,simplistic perspective but so accurate
 

roli

Born Again,Spirit Filled
The only thing I could realistically consider a revelation is the existence of the universe, and even that is debatable as evidence. I would never presume to speak on behalf of God.
I think that is where one must start ,that is looking around us at the majestic splendor of it all ,and just sit back and take in the complexities of this universe is really breathe taking.
But the influences of skeptics ,secular philosophy,intellectual relativism and rationalism come in and snuff out the idea or notion that this could have all been created by an artistic and architectual genius, who had intent and purpose, planning,order and logic behind his motive for creating not only inannimate but also the animate.



We have no way to know and no way to reliably tell the difference.
Let me just say in regards to knowing God or being able to tell the difference ,ignorance is not bliss, but knowledge and expereince is. To say we have no way of knowing,is an absolute statement and by that I don't I can make that assumption eitehr regarding God's existence ,but it can be proven and one can actually know,beyond a doubt .
But ti will come by conventioanl means ,emperical evidence ,rationale, varifiable proof etc, it will and can only come by expereince, like anything else in life


Existence is all the help we get. Selectively helping some while letting others flounder in despair or worse would be unethical at best, and in any case I don't hold an anthropocentric view that any human is getting additional divine assistance.

So what position do you hold



My life is not significant enough to warrant divine intent, nor does God require my service. The way I see it, to think otherwise may reflect an exaggerated sense of self-importance. God is certainly not stressing over whether I believe or longing for my companionship. I'm a nice enough guy, but I'm not God's gift to God

I appreciate your humility, but do you think you could be worng regading your perspective of the God you speak of
 

Wandered Off

Sporadic Driveby Member
But the influences of skeptics ,secular philosophy,intellectual relativism and rationalism come in and snuff out the idea or notion that this could have all been created by an artistic and architectual genius, who had intent and purpose, planning,order and logic behind his motive for creating not only inannimate but also the animate.
I don't know that they "snuff out the idea" so much as call it into legitimate question by suggesting plausible, natural explanations. As a rule, we should always look for natural explanations first. Anything beyond that enters the realm of speculation and decreases the odds for accuracy.

So what position do you hold
No human is getting additional divine assistance.

I appreciate your humility, but do you think you could be worng regading your perspective of the God you speak of
Of course. That follows directly from my statement that we have no way to know with absolute certainty. I simply took a look around and drew conclusions based on what I saw. I am definitely not claiming to be right, only right within the context of my view of reality - which may well have little to do with Actual Reality.
 
Hi, I haven't been around here for quite some time, but I thought I'd answer your questions, is this just for discussion? I follow a now extinct religion called Simonianism, founded by Simon Magus of Samaria. He proclaimed himself as the Christ that John the Baptist promised would come, a personal saviour similar to Jesus. I believe he was the earthly incarnation of the Great Power, or in simplistic terms, the highest "God."

"How has your God spoken to you or revealed himself to you, if he has at all, or is it you speaking on his behalf"

He reveals himself through esoteric knowledge, dreams, visions, magic

"Is there really a god that you believe in or is it just an intellectual concept ?"

A personal Saviour God

Is it a image made with man's hand's or is it one your mind has created


What kind of question is this? Images can be admirable representations but never thought to be God himself. And I did not just make up a god in my mind. I think everyone's deities are far more complex than that. The deity I choose to worship was a historic person who walked the earth around the same time as jesus and his apostles.

What has it done for you?


It explains alot about the universe that I connect with as to why things are the way they are, things I never agreed with when following other religions. For example how can a loving creator or any loving gods be so distant and cruel to their creations by giving them old age, death, diseases, bloodshed, and all other unspeakable sufferings. And then confusing them with multiple religions and binding laws and customs to follow? Or worse, sending souls to hell who may be good souls but simply disagree with that god? Doesn't make sense as to why a god would be so human-like in behavior. It makes much more sense to have Faith in a God that is all pure love with no corruption whatsoever and would not put his subjects under any such conditions. Would not the highest God measure up to this level of purity?

What hope is there for it's help?


Eternal Closeness with the Divine

What is it's intention for your life or Why would you serve it?


His only intention is Affection and Acknowledgement, no binding doctrinal laws or covenants. I serve only to gain his Affection and Acknowledge his Divinity. And he does not think ill of anyone who disagrees and follows other beliefs.
 

roli

Born Again,Spirit Filled
What kind of question is this? Images can be admirable representations but never thought to be God himself. And I did not just make up a god in my mind. I think everyone's deities are far more complex than that. The deity I choose to worship was a historic person who walked the earth around the same time as jesus and his apostles.
Through history,Idolatry has always been a very personal way for many man to communicate to their god,it even being their god.
Psa 115:4Their idols [are] silver and gold, the work of men's hands.They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.They that make them are like unto them; [so is] every one that trusteth in them.
Understand that idolatry is the focal point of one's devotion,worship and adoration to a thing.
Some use actual graven images,money,material things ,careers and it can be anything that takes priority in one's life.


It explains alot about the universe that I connect with as to why things are the way they are, things I never agreed with when following other religions. For example how can a loving creator or any loving gods be so distant and cruel to their creations by giving them old age, death, diseases, bloodshed, and all other unspeakable sufferings. And then confusing them with multiple religions and binding laws and customs to follow? Or worse, sending souls to hell who may be good souls but simply disagree with that god? Doesn't make sense as to why a god would be so human-like in behavior.
That may be your finite interpretation of the judeo christian God from a possible ignorant position.
God and the way he does things, if he were to make sense and could be figured out by man's reasoning abilities, would he not be brought down to man's level.
Mankind has been trying to do that for years

It makes much more sense to have Faith in a God that is all pure love with no corruption whatsoever and would not put his subjects under any such conditions. Would not the highest God measure up to this level of purity?
Not to question your position,that is your view, but that may very well be the ingredients of creating a god to suit one's self and many do ,it goes like this ,"my god would'nt do this or that ,my god is like this or that" and poof !! we have a god that makes anybody in their right mind want to serve.
Becuase it makes one happy ,not accountable,innocent, free,
 
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