Why is Lolicon bad?

[Osama-san]

Why is cartoon child porn illegal?It's just a cartoon TBH with you I think the people who made that law are sensitive it's a cartoon it's not going to hurt anyone I know what arguments people are going to bring up i'll just explain to you why it's stupid.

 

[columbus]

I know what arguments people are going to bring up i'll just explain to you why it's stupid.

So what is the point to bringing up an opinion?
Just tell us what they are and explain why we are stupid and then deal with the consequences.
Tom

 

[Deathbydefault]

Perhaps a naive or domineering government will always have issues with a persons 'sick' preferences.
I don't care either way about the legality of this genre, so long as the real children are left alone.

 

[Osama-san]

So what is the point to bringing up an opinion?
Just tell us what they are and explain why we are stupid and then deal with the consequences.
Tom

I didn't say you can't express your opinion i'm just saying most of the arguments i've heard are stupid and I expect them.

 

[Mickdrew]

It's just distasteful.

And a little creepy.

 

[YmirGF]

It's just distasteful.

And a little creepy.

Quite a bit more than a little creepy, my new friend, quite a bit more....

Personally I think any artists who create porn of this genre should be investigated by their local police. It's almost a given that they will posses (and possibly create) real hardcore child pornography. I have seen some of it and it is very "over the top" stuff. Sickening, really... and I am quite far from being a prude.

 

[Osama-san]

Just as expected it's creepy you're right but that's a stupid reason of wh it should be illegal then I guess people with rape fetish should be arrested.

 

[columbus]

I didn't say you can't express your opinion i'm just saying most of the arguments i've heard are stupid and I expect them.

That is not what you said. It is right there in your OP.
If you want to go out on the edge of morality and avoid summary execution you had best be clear and precise.

Child sexual abuse causes so much damage that I am inclined to overlook other ethics when dealing with it. I am not a violent person, but if somebody else messed you up badly over your kiddie porn thing I wouldn't get involved.
Tom

 

[Osama-san]

That is not what you said. It is right there in your OP.
If you want to go out on the edge of morality and avoid summary execution you had best be clear and precise.

Child sexual abuse causes so much damage that I am inclined to overlook other ethics when dealing with it. I am not a violent person, but if somebody else messed you up badly over your kiddie porn thing I wouldn't get involved.
Tom

Buddy These are a buch of pixels we're talking about they can't feel anything they're just illusions to our eyes.

 

[YmirGF]

Just as expected it's creepy you're right but that's a stupid reason of wh it should be illegal then I guess people with rape fetish should be arrested.

You seem to misunderstand, Osama-san. We are being very generous be simply calling it "creepy". There is someone seriously wrong in the mind of creators of this genre and as I said, I have seen some in the past and it is way, way, way over the top.

 

[Osama-san]

You seem to misunderstand, Osama-san. We are being very generous be simply calling it "creepy". There is someone seriously wrong in the mind of creators of this genre and as I said, I have seen some in the past and it is way, way, way over the top.

Yeah.

 

[Mickdrew]

Just as expected it's creepy you're right but that's a stupid reason of wh it should be illegal then I guess people with rape fetish should be arrested.

Depends. Did they do something illegal?

We call it creepy because it shows signs of a weird frame of mind. What impulses would someone have to indulge in this?
And what does it say about them...

 

[Osama-san]

Depends. Did they do something illegal?

We call it creepy because it shows signs of a weird frame of mind. What impulses would someone have to indulge in this?
And what does it say about them...

I've heard that most lolicons only like anime girls children to them are "Eeeew..........."

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's the mentality behind making things like this. Not the technicality or legality of the medium its produced on.

It's just not a healthy, advisable, nor socially acceptable indulgence to partake in as it encourages and promotes pedophilia that can spill out of such a person's fantasy, into something far more harmful and destructive.

 

[Osama-san]

It's the mentality behind making things like this. Not the technicality or legality of the medium its produced on.

It's just not a healthy, advisable, nor socially acceptable indulgence to partake in as it encourages and promotes pedophilia that can spill out of such a person's fantasy, into something far more harmful and destructive.

Same goes for video games #Ban all video games and if that was the case then why isn't there more child rape in Italy lolicon is legal there and if you think it's because it's a small country how about Japan too.

 

[Smart_Guy]

The weird thing is that it is legal in Japan, a country I'm in doubt many other countries can get even close to how organized they are.

Really weird.

 

[Valjean]

Quite a bit more than a little creepy, my new friend, quite a bit more....

Isn't creepy is in the eye of the beholder? Creepiness based judgement can be a slippery slope.

Personally I think any artists who create porn of this genre should be investigated by their local police. It's almost a given that they will posses (and possibly create) real hardcore child pornography. I have seen some of it and it is very "over the top" stuff. Sickening, really... and I am quite far from being a prude.[/QUOTE]And here's where the slope begins.
How many lives of culturally, sexually, politically or religiously "atypicals" have been ruined by panics and wichhunts over history?

Child sexual abuse causes so much damage that I am inclined to overlook other ethics when dealing with it.

What does this mean?
Kind of reminds me of Goldwater's “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”
Try substituting homosexuality, communism or Judaism for "child sexual abuse."

You seem to misunderstand, Osama-san. We are being very generous be simply calling it "creepy". There is someone seriously wrong in the mind of creators of this genre and as I said, I have seen some in the past and it is way, way, way over the top.

Lots of political, cultural, religious and aesthetic preferences can be taken "way over the top." For example, didn't American evangelical pastor Scott Lively & al use some 'over the top' gay porn to induce Uganda to persecute all homosexuals, including draconian laws against them, including execution.
Given our history of moral panic and persecution, we should be very careful about blanket condemnations of culturally aberrant opinions or behavior.

 

[Valjean]

Has anyone considered that cartoon porn could be a harmless alternative for pedophiles who otherwise would be supporting an actual child porn industry? It might be a boon, who knows?

Best to do some actual sociological research before grabbing the torches and pitchforks.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's extremely disgusting, disturbing, and should definitely throw people's psychological state into question, but censoring works of fiction? And to equate silly drawings to actual footage of real victims?

 

[YmirGF]

Isn't creepy is in the eye of the beholder? Creepiness based judgement can be a slippery slope.

and here's where the slope begins. How many lives of culturally, sexually, politically or religiously "atypicals" have been ruined by panics and wichhunts over history?

Lots of political, cultural, religious and aesthetic preferences can be taken "way over the top." For example, didn't American evangelical pastor Scott Lively & al use some 'over the top' gay porn to induce Uganda to persecute all homosexuals, including draconian laws against them, including execution.
Given our history of moral panic and persecution, we should be very careful about blanket condemnations of culturally aberrant opinions or behavior.

I guess you are right. Like, seriously, why would anyone think - even for a second - that someone who draws incredibly detailed images of children and babies being sexually abused by Schwarzenegger-esque males, horned demons and twisted animals ever consider acting on those impulses beyond creating those potentially therapeutic images. Like, really. What was I thinking?

"Release the hounds!"