Wildswanderer
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Which takes us right back to my second post here. Those who want to believe will. Those who don't will not.
Only if there's an ultimate authority can we decide what truth is. He is Truth.
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Why is religion so fascinated with homosexuality?
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Only if there's an ultimate authority can we decide what truth is. He is Truth.
Wildswanderer
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Nothing you see has a rational explanation if it just made itself from nothing. That's not rational. It's loony tunes.
Subduction Zone
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This is not true either. You should not assume that just because something applies to you that it applies to everyone. There are countless atheists that would like to believe, but they are too honest when it comes to evidence to do so.
Subduction Zone
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Your inability to understand does not make something irrational. Can you support your claims with a proper argument?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
No, She is Truth. I am the Correct True Believer. You are not.
There is many rational and reasonable evidences available.
I will offer this from those quotes, as it is relevant to why many do not agree they are rational and logical proofs or evidence.
".....These are theoretical arguments adduced for weak souls, but if the eye of inner vision be opened, a hundred thousand clear proofs will be seen. Thus, when man feels the indwelling spirit, he is in no need of arguments for its existence; but for those who are deprived of the grace of the spirit, it is necessary to set forth external arguments."
(Some Answered Questions)
www.bahai.org/r/584292313
Regards Tony
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Subduction Zone
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.Sorry, but you need to use resources properly. If it is there quote and link. Do not just quote. I am not doing your homework for you.
Subduction Zone
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I do have to laugh. I was pretty sure that @TransmutingSoul could not come up with anything and this was the first "argument" given. One would think that one would post one's best argument first:
"AMONG THE PROOFS and arguments for the existence of God is the fact that man has not created himself, but rather that his creator and fashioner is another than he. "
Oh my! If that is all that you have then there is no point in going on.
"AMONG THE PROOFS and arguments for the existence of God is the fact that man has not created himself, but rather that his creator and fashioner is another than he. "
Oh my! If that is all that you have then there is no point in going on.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
The fun thing about these debates is that there are 3 positions.
- I hold X rationality as the objective standard and no other.
- I hold Y rationality as the objective standard and no other.
- I hold no objective standard for rationality.
I would suggest if you are happy to see it that way, then continue to do so.
I am not doing your homework.
Regards Tony
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Those who truly want to believe will decide to. Belief is a choice.
Truth is relative to our willingness to explore the unseen side of reality and what drives the mind of man.
Regards Tony
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, But you and I get different results about that. I am a friendly atheist, who just believe differently than you.
That is great, you and I will live in peace and work for the betterment of all humanity as one people on one planet.
Talk is not worth anything if we can not achieve that.
The key is where is that balance found?
Regards Tony
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Behaviour is innate to the being it relates to all natural states changed.
Mainly bio water bio chemical life as a human by percentage water. The forms man used against us changed water in nuclear converting of earths body.
Water had in fact sealed God earths sun melt dust conversion irradiation as origin flood. When the sun blasted converting all bodies first in the universe.
Hence imaged water oxygen carbon burn of energy microbes we use inside our bodies naturally consciously interrelate with feedback a type of AI machine caused possession.
By transmitters.
Once feedback was human body direct it no longer is.
We are living what can be described as a virtual atmospheric possession by humans introducing unnatural machine owned transmissions.
Visionary image distortions. So our behaviours mimic the cause.
Our behaviour from babies is to mimic and copy was removed. As direct natural life.
Not overlooking the fact scientists studying So and consciousness already know and are researching how they can use it against us a second time. Hence it keeps changing its identity by input.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You made an obvious error. You as much as admitted that belief is irrational. No one should ever "want to believe". One should want to know true things, and you as much as admitted that religious beliefs are not true. I want to know as many true things as possible. If there is a god I do want to know that. But the time to believe in anything is after sufficient evidence is provided. If you want to believe in a god that makes bogus promises you are apt to believe only because you like the promises. Not because it is true.
Wildswanderer
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Nonsense. We all have conflicting ," evidence". We choose which to believe. Why would you want to believe in a godless universe? What benefits are there in the belief that your life is truly meaningless?
Subduction Zone
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No, most people simply do not understand the concept. Just because you like something does not makeo it evidence. And just because fellow Kool Aid drinkers like it it is not evidence. Evidence consists of observations that can support or refute one's beliefs and any honest person would have to agree. The problem is that when it comes to evidence some cannot admit that something is evidence.
An easy test of a Christian is to see how or if they try to defend some of the clear myths of the Bible. As an example there is no scientific evidence for the Noah's Ark myth and endless evidence against it. If someone can not admit this they either do not understand evidence or are lying.
Wildswanderer
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You don't understand miracles, so you rail against their existence. Once you have experienced miracles, you would feel differently about all the things that you find so impossible in scripture.
Maybe because people like you like to ask about it?