Why is suffering present in this world?

[Aštra’el]

Technically, Lucifer is a translation of another word which also means bearer of light/day star/morning star in Isaiah 14:12.
Usually, when this question is asked, the one asking has a response ready which is meant to show that it is not referring to Satan -or something similar.

The preceding verses make it clear that Isaiah 14:12 is addressing the King of Babylon. Christians have often interpreted it as an indirect reference to the devil's alleged fall from grace (another Christian interpretation), but scripture makes it clear that the King of Babylon is the subject in question.

 

[firedragon]

Technically, Lucifer is a translation of another word which also means bearer of light/day star/morning star in Isaiah 14:12.
Usually, when this question is asked, the one asking has a response ready which is meant to show that it is not referring to Satan -or something similar.

Names and descriptions in the bible can be a bit cryptic -as many may be used to describe one person -or the state of that person.
Simon being called Peter, for example...

The one called "the beast" in Revelation is also referred to as a king of fierce countenance, the (last) king of the north, the prince of Tyrus, that Wicked, and the Assyrian.

Elijah is another name which might confuse... There was the original Elijah the Tishbite, then John the Baptist, the Elijah which would restore all things, and Elijah the prophet (the original living again) before the great and terrible day of the Lord.

Satan is also called by many names or descriptions -usually describing his state after iniquity was found in him. Isaiah 14:12 refers to his state before he became the devil, destroyer, adversary, Abbadon, Appolyon, dragon, etc..........

I know that. But dont you think that a name should not be translated?

Whatever language you speak in, Jesus should always be Jesus.

 

[Etritonakin]

I know that. But dont you think that a name should not be translated?

Whatever language you speak in, Jesus should always be Jesus.

No. I believe that if any words have the same meaning -and can express the same thing effectively -it is not necessarily important.
It is sin to take the name of God in vain -and important to give it the solemness it deserves, etc. -but God even refers to God by many names and in many ways.

Christ's name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Almighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace -and he was also the Word, I AM, Melchizedek, Jesus, the Son of Man, etc...

Which reminds me..... all will be given one pure language later....
Human languages are essentially based in ignorance -and change with new understanding.
A pure language based on complete understanding should be quite interesting.

Zep 3:9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

 

[OurCreed]

Technically, God created Lucifer -and Lucifer then made himself Satan (Adversary) by choice.
That is not to say that God did not know it was possible.
He knew it was possible -just as he knew it was possible for Adam and Eve to sin.
God created the situation which allowed for individuals to will and do evil -but he did not create any evil beings.

Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

The choice to do evil was theirs -but they did not necessarily fully know or believe it was evil.
God created new creative beings -which means they had the ability to make choices.
Those new beings did not have experience -therefore they were not able to know for certain that God was who and what he said he was -or that what he told them was truth.
Even Lucifer's sin was initially somewhat in ignorance.
To know God is God and tells the truth requires experience.

That is what is meant by the following......

Isa 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

But the fact still remains that God is allowing evil to exist. This is the point I am trying to get at, and you basically admitted it already. You said, "God created the situation which allowed for individuals to will and do evil -but he did not create any evil beings."

I don't disagree on this fact, there are no evil beings that God created. But God still allows evil in the world.

All I said from the very beginning was that God allows evil to exist simply to test man. Apparently, Paul had a problem with this and said only a cruel God would do this. Well, that's a form of hypocrisy because Paul doesn't understand his own beliefs. If God allows evil to exist, then he himself is already worshiping his version of a "cruel God."

Qur'an - 2;155-156
"And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good tidings to the patient, Who, when adversity (evil) strikes them, say, "Indeed we belong to Allah , and indeed to Him we will return.""

This verse of the Qur'an tells us that God will surely test us humans with fear, hunger, loss of wealth, loss of lives, and loss of fruits (blessings and good things). But then God grants good news (tidings), to those who are patient. Those who persevere in adversity and misfortune, they hold fast to the will of God and believe and trust Him. This is the teaching of Islam which I was answering the original OP, until Paul came up who had a problem with it.

 

[Etritonakin]

The preceding verses make it clear that Isaiah 14:12 is addressing the King of Babylon. Christians have often interpreted it as an indirect reference to the devil's alleged fall from grace (another Christian interpretation), but scripture makes it clear that the King of Babylon is the subject in question.

Many scriptures address human rulers and also their spiritual influence.

The verses preceding Isaiah 14:12 address the king of Babylon. Isaiah 12 addresses Lucifer (hêylêl).

The same is true of Ezekiel 28 -where a human ruler is the prince of Tyrus -and Satan is the king of Tyrus.....

Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.