Why is the Bible 100% what God says?

[savagewind]

Many people believe about the modern Bible, which is in a language that it was not written, that it is what God has really spoken.

I am not asking how, but why.

I understand God could have done it. I want to know what people say about why God did it.

Please and thank you.

 

[Windwalker]

Because as the duly selected deity of a particular people he had a vested interest in governing their society as their chosen sovereign. So he had various priests and administrators of the government write rules and laws in his name in order to rule over the people of that particular society as their president, or deity. When the interests of those people lay within the borders of another land, he had it written they should do war with them and take their land for themselves in order to expand his kingdom among the people's of earth.

I realize this sounds a lot like human societies in general, creating myths about their origins and government, but it's not. This is different, just because. Because why, you ask? Just because. That's why. Because it's the myths of our culture. Therefore it's true.

 

[savagewind]

I think that if the Bible is a book that God wrote, then God wrote in sin because most of it is about sin. Why did God write a book on purpose about sin?
Why didn't God write a book about righteousness?

 

[Windwalker]

I think that if the Bible is a book that God wrote, then God wrote in sin because most of it is about sin. Why did God write a book on purpose about sin?
Why didn't God write a book about righteousness?

Of course I do not believe God wrote the Bible. Human's who believed in God wrote their thoughts 'as if' God wrote them (regardless of whether they understood that as such or not). The pen was in the hands of people, not God. But why would they focus so much on sin? Multiple reasons, of course. First look at the 'law' as a tool of governing a people. Why do we have "sins" listed in our law books? Because it's about establishing the rules of a society, and systems of law enforcement to ensure the society functions. You don't have "happy thoughts" in law books. So that's the first reason.

The next reason is that of the poets and mystics existential dilemmas. With God as the symbol of Ultimate Reality, and with them living in this world, both sensing the divine as well as their own sense of separation and isolation from this Unity with God, they symbolically expressed this in a cause and effect relationship. From this comes the myths of the Fall of man, once having had Unity in an imagined past, with some event that caused that change in state to the current one they now experience, longing for Unity, yet experiencing separation. They are stories to express this condition, this realization of isolation in themselves. So symbolically, they seek ways to reunite with God, to appease him, to attempt to overcome themselves and the causes of this separation. So that second reason is to essentially give themselves a set of tools, attitudes, actions, etc that help them move to realize God in their lives instead of 'hell' or separation.

The other reason would be control. To take the "rules" of a society and use the authority of the divine Absolute to "hate" sin, makes one afraid to step outside the boundaries of the society and its laws. It's not just the fear of law-enforcement, but the "divine eye" who sees all and knows all who will send locusts and boils to punish you, or burn you eternally in hell if you think you're getting away with something society doesn't like. God is the invisible "Big Brother" who monitors your very thoughts and will put you in jail for questioning authority.

There are many diverse layers of all that goes into and is used in such a book. The error is when people think it's all one thing, for one single reason. That's a mythology to make it a tool of control, rather than something which can be used symbolically to inspire positive change. In religion the talk of "sin" is much more about control, than any true existential yearning. When you hear the positive things, that is coming from those who are functioning at the internal, existential level, rather than approaching life from the external rule/role level. When you hear, "God will reward you for being good", that's generally the external Law-Giver/Punisher God, and the motivations are not internal and existential, but external social and cultural.

 

[savagewind]

If God wrote the Bible it was ready to write before anything happened. To me that means that your* god is the author of every sin.

*everyone who believes that the Bible is all God's words.

 

[Windwalker]

If God wrote the Bible it was ready to write before anything happened. To me that means that your* god is the author of every sin.

*everyone who believes that the Bible is all God's words.

One could argue that God was simply reacting to what he was seeing happening, like any human would. After all, the Bible does anthropomorphize God all the time, such as being jealous or angry, turning his back on people, welcoming them as a friend, and so forth. Why then not assume he's just as human as us all the way down to be surprised by something he didn't expect? "Oh gosh guys! You really screwed the pooch here. Let me tell you how I'd fix it if I was one of you guys...."

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

The Bible is not 100% anything in particular.
It was written 100% by men
Its content was selected 100% by men
It is interpreted 100% by men
It hs been translated into many languages 100%by men.
How much of it was directly inspired by God, I can not say, but I suspect not much of it.

However it contains a majority of the background of pre-christian beliefs and the teachings of Jesus and the works of the apostles and early church after his death.
I sets out no formal set of beliefs on how to be a Christian or even of the make up of a Christian Church.
Neither does it establish how a priest hood should be formulated.
It covers almost nothing that we could recognise as a formal Christian dogma.

 

[Desert Snake]

Many people believe about the modern Bible, which is in a language that it was not written, that it is what God has really spoken.

I am not asking how, but why.

I understand God could have done it. I want to know what people say about why God did it.

Please and thank you.

ie translations, whatever. Not sure what the issue is, here. If the translation is wrong, it is the translators fault. You are getting /literary,, language mixed up with 'religious' language.

/why write the Bible,, why not

 

[Desert Snake]

I think that if the Bible is a book that God wrote, then God wrote in sin because most of it is about sin. Why did God write a book on purpose about sin?
Why didn't God write a book about righteousness?

Ironically, the Bible gives you your answers.

 

[savagewind]

ie translations, whatever. Not sure what the issue is, here. If the translation is wrong, it is the translators fault. You are getting /literary,, language mixed up with 'religious' language.

/why write the Bible,, why not

That is not correct. There are people who believe that every writer, translator, copyist and publisher transmitted God's thoughts thoroughly. They teach that our modern copies of scripture contain no wrong ideas.

 

[savagewind]

Ironically, the Bible gives you your answers.

Am I to believe that the Bible answers the question why not a book about righteousness?

 

[Desert Snake]

Am I to believe that the Bible answers the question why not a book about righteousness?

Not sure what you mean.

 

[savagewind]

Not sure what you mean.

I asked why God didn't have a book written about righteousness and you said the Bible gives the answer. Where in the Bible is it written why God wrote about sin but didn't write a book about righteousness?

There is no book about how to think right. Why?

 

[Desert Snake]

I asked why God didn't have a book written about righteousness and you said the Bible gives the answer. Where in the Bible is it written why God wrote about sin but didn't write a book about righteousness?

There is no book about how to think right. Why?

That's what Midrash is for.

 

[Acim]

Many people believe about the modern Bible, which is in a language that it was not written, that it is what God has really spoken.

I am not asking how, but why.

I understand God could have done it. I want to know what people say about why God did it.

Please and thank you.

I'm not 100% sure I understand what you're asking (given my reading of the thread), but I think Holy Spirit (Voice of God) inspired writers to scribe it as a message for others who have ever wondered if there's another path to take to get closer to God/Divine Self.

If I am correctly understanding other things you bring up in the thread (i.e. why God didn't have a book written about righteousness), I would say two things in response to this. The one I think you are getting at is because to understand how to get away from current predicament, Spirit needs to show that that predicament is sin based, is leading on a path further away from Godliness. Given that say the 2 greatest commandments are explicitly stated, I do see 'righteousness' presented in the text. Why is it not all on this - is what I hear you asking about. If that is close to what you're getting at, perhaps I could elaborate, but not sure.

My second response would be that the biblical text is clearly not the only time Holy Spirit has communicated to humanity about Divine Nature. So, Bible is for certain understandings, but is hardly a complete picture. Also, I would be hard pressed to not bring in mystical in which Holy Spirit understands, fully, that the answer all humanity seeks is not found outside of own self (in a book, or object of the world), but instead is found within. I think all outer messages, like the Bible are pointing toward this. Designed to have believer connect with own inner Source to obtain more direct communication.

 

[savagewind]

I'm not 100% sure I understand what you're asking (given my reading of the thread), but I think Holy Spirit (Voice of God) inspired writers to scribe it as a message for others who have ever wondered if there's another path to take to get closer to God/Divine Self.

If I am correctly understanding other things you bring up in the thread (i.e. why God didn't have a book written about righteousness), I would say two things in response to this. The one I think you are getting at is because to understand how to get away from current predicament, Spirit needs to show that that predicament is sin based, is leading on a path further away from Godliness. Given that say the 2 greatest commandments are explicitly stated, I do see 'righteousness' presented in the text. Why is it not all on this - is what I hear you asking about. If that is close to what you're getting at, perhaps I could elaborate, but not sure.

My second response would be that the biblical text is clearly not the only time Holy Spirit has communicated to humanity about Divine Nature. So, Bible is for certain understandings, but is hardly a complete picture. Also, I would be hard pressed to not bring in mystical in which Holy Spirit understands, fully, that the answer all humanity seeks is not found outside of own self (in a book, or object of the world), but instead is found within. I think all outer messages, like the Bible are pointing toward this. Designed to have believer connect with own inner Source to obtain more direct communication.

I agree with that. But the point is the 100%.
Many people teach that there are no errors in Bible scripture and that it reflects God's thoughts just like God would will it. We need not search for any intended meaning in it because all of it is righteous, just as Jehovah intended it to be, according to them.

I do not agree with that. I have found mistakes and I suppose believing in a mistake can mislead a person. They do not care about being misled, except that they are afraid to be imo.

 

[savagewind]

Has no one imagined the extreme control that would be needed from God in men to have done what they say is done?

Why does God want us to believe in such control? Why does Jehovah not exert even a small fraction of that kind of control for the prevention of crime against innocents?

 

[life.period]

Many people believe about the modern Bible, which is in a language that it was not written, that it is what God has really spoken.

I am not asking how, but why.

I understand God could have done it. I want to know what people say about why God did it.

Please and thank you.

Bible is not word of god

It is written by people human being

Author is human

It is not authentic

For example

It say Judah died When he hanged himself , later claims Judah died when his stomach burst ..


Bible writers doesn't know what happened to Judah.

It is wired that bible writers commit mistakes while they owned Jesus bible.

roman 1:16
king James version
Paul said " I am not ashamed of jesus gospel"

Why they wrote bible while they have true authentic words of god ?

It predicts they are false prophet that jesus predict there coming and mislead people .

God sent prophet Muhamad to enlighten you and save you.

 

[savagewind]

God sent prophet Muhamad to enlighten you and save you.

I do not believe God sent Muhammad. I do not doubt that the man spoke much truth, but not all truth, just like the keepers of the Bible did not always speak the truth. I think that because the Bible had been altered by humans, the way was made open for Islam. So, according to me, Islam made it's way due to the follies of the Christians and it might gain a hold on the World for the same reason.

 

[savagewind]

I have got an answer to why!

Why do they believe the Bible must be 100% correct?

The answer I got is this. It is because they might trust that if they keep the Bible and do good by it, God will save them.
So their god saves people who love the Bible. I love the Bible, so then I will be saved along with them fyi. (next comes Troll thought, so you just have fill in that all by yourself)

They realize somehow that if it is wrong, it can't save them, so they must know that it is all right.

And if God really does save people via the Bible then of course it is all right.

Do you see how interesting that last sentence is? I do. No doubt. LOL
If I should put a comma after the word Bible, or I could put the comma after then, then the meaning is changed. Voila!

Why? Because copyists are like that. Does God control punctuation and such little things every time anyone writes? I say no. You say yes. THINK!