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Why is the Bible amazing?

Nimos

Well-Known Member
Why is it to you (if it is)?
I don't know if I would call it my favorite book, but I would agree that it is very unique and an interesting book, but probably more from a historical and cultural point of view. Reading about how people viewed and experienced the world in which the lived so many years ago is quite amazing I think.

So despite not believing it, I think its a very important book in regards to understanding human history, early philosophy, development of religion and much more. So have nothing negative to say about it from that point of view :)
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
We don't really know how many authors have contributed to the Bible throughout history. But one thing for sure is the Bible has several types of books. Some scholars follow Genre criticism so heavily that some find it difficult to get out of it. It' almost intoxicating they say. I am thinking if I knew Hebrew I would see the beauty of the Tank's poetry but unfortunately I don't. One scholar said that the "The rhythmic and to some extent the syntactic aspects of the system will be invisible in translation".

One of my most favourite books in the Bible is the Ecclesiastes. Is it prose, poetry or as sociologists would say "sacred history". What ever it is, I think its a very modern thought in it. Advance philosophical thinking. That has always fascinated me.

Jeremiah, even in English translation sounds rhythmic to me.

Moab has been placid from youth,
settled in his lees.
Never emptied from vessel to vessel,
in exile never gone.
And so his taste has kept,
his fragrance has not changed.

But Jeremiah is not just a poem. It is a book of doctrine.

Recently in an exchange I found it quite surprising that some didn't know that the Boney M song they enjoyed all their life was directly taken from the Bible. By the rivers of Babylon, where we sat down,......

To me, the Bible is a library of fantastic authorship. All kinds of Genre's. This is why the Bible is amazing to me.

Why is it to you (if it is)?
I dabble in Hebrew. The Torah is amazing!
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I don't know if I would call it my favorite book, but I would agree that it is very unique and an interesting book, but probably more from a historical and cultural point of view. Reading about how people viewed and experienced the world in which the lived so many years ago is quite amazing I think.

So despite not believing it, I think its a very important book in regards to understanding human history, early philosophy, development of religion and much more. So have nothing negative to say about it from that point of view :)

With that kind of thought, there is a particular study you must read. MUST read. Read on Wellhausen then follow through with his latter followers. Thanks. I like your point of view.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Almost one-third of the Bible is made up of Bible prophecy as follows:

Verses in Whole Bible 31,124

Verses of prophecy 8,352

Percent of Prophecy in Bible 27%

As shown, prophecy is a major part of divine revelation from God. It gives us a proper prospective on life and helps us to understand the whole Bible. Prophecy also motivates us to live Godly lives in light of eternity and proves the truth of God’s Word.

How Much of the Bible is Prophecy?


According to another source, may be closer to a fourth of the Bible is prophetic, or one in four verses or 27%.

By one count, about 27 percent of the Bible is predictive (Payne, J. B., The Encyclopedia of Biblical Prophecy, Baker Pub. Group, 1980, p. 675). This means that, when written, over one fourth of the Bible—more than one in four verses—was prophetic. Professor and theologian J. Barton Payne lists 1,817 prophecies in the Bible (ibid., p. 674). The consistent relation of prophecy in the Bible is staggering; on top of that is the amazing accuracy of those detailed prophecies.

How much of the Bible is prophecy? | GotQuestions.org

I must apologise, but I do not follow evangelical websites. These are not scholarly works, and each and ever point need analysis. And these countings are always made up of predictive verses for preaching.

But thanks for your links. I will read up.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
We don't really know how many authors have contributed to the Bible throughout history. But one thing for sure is the Bible has several types of books. Some scholars follow Genre criticism so heavily that some find it difficult to get out of it. It' almost intoxicating they say. I am thinking if I knew Hebrew I would see the beauty of the Tank's poetry but unfortunately I don't. One scholar said that the "The rhythmic and to some extent the syntactic aspects of the system will be invisible in translation".

One of my most favourite books in the Bible is the Ecclesiastes. Is it prose, poetry or as sociologists would say "sacred history". What ever it is, I think its a very modern thought in it. Advance philosophical thinking. That has always fascinated me.

Jeremiah, even in English translation sounds rhythmic to me.

Moab has been placid from youth,
settled in his lees.
Never emptied from vessel to vessel,
in exile never gone.
And so his taste has kept,
his fragrance has not changed.

But Jeremiah is not just a poem. It is a book of doctrine.

Recently in an exchange I found it quite surprising that some didn't know that the Boney M song they enjoyed all their life was directly taken from the Bible. By the rivers of Babylon, where we sat down,......

To me, the Bible is a library of fantastic authorship. All kinds of Genre's. This is why the Bible is amazing to me.

Why is it to you (if it is)?
I think the Tanakh is an astonishing document to have survived. It gives us not just glimpses of ancient thoughts, folk-tales, folk-history, actual history, cultural practices and values, but insight into how they evolved across such a span of time.

Ecclesiastes rather stands on its own there ─ a philosophical rather than a theological view of the world, quite refreshing in its more direct approach. It would be interesting to see the question of its authorship settled.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
We don't really know how many authors have contributed to the Bible throughout history. But one thing for sure is the Bible has several types of books. Some scholars follow Genre criticism so heavily that some find it difficult to get out of it. It' almost intoxicating they say. I am thinking if I knew Hebrew I would see the beauty of the Tank's poetry but unfortunately I don't. One scholar said that the "The rhythmic and to some extent the syntactic aspects of the system will be invisible in translation".

One of my most favourite books in the Bible is the Ecclesiastes. Is it prose, poetry or as sociologists would say "sacred history". What ever it is, I think its a very modern thought in it. Advance philosophical thinking. That has always fascinated me.

Jeremiah, even in English translation sounds rhythmic to me.

Moab has been placid from youth,
settled in his lees.
Never emptied from vessel to vessel,
in exile never gone.
And so his taste has kept,
his fragrance has not changed.

But Jeremiah is not just a poem. It is a book of doctrine.

Recently in an exchange I found it quite surprising that some didn't know that the Boney M song they enjoyed all their life was directly taken from the Bible. By the rivers of Babylon, where we sat down,......

To me, the Bible is a library of fantastic authorship. All kinds of Genre's. This is why the Bible is amazing to me.

Why is it to you (if it is)?

Amazing that:

1. people believe it.

2. it motivated eternal wars for peace because people didn't understand it.

Fear of eternity in the flames of hell motivated throngs of followers.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
With that kind of thought, there is a particular study you must read. MUST read. Read on Wellhausen then follow through with his latter followers. Thanks. I like your point of view.
I know about his work, just didn't assign his name to it.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I know about his work, just didn't assign his name to it.

Yeah. He was the pioneer but such a long time ago. Now every tom, dick and harry speaks in terms attributed to Wellhausen. I think a modern scholar in the field who is very interesting to read is Friedman.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
We don't really know how many authors have contributed to the Bible throughout history. But one thing for sure is the Bible has several types of books. Some scholars follow Genre criticism so heavily that some find it difficult to get out of it. It' almost intoxicating they say. I am thinking if I knew Hebrew I would see the beauty of the Tank's poetry but unfortunately I don't. One scholar said that the "The rhythmic and to some extent the syntactic aspects of the system will be invisible in translation".

One of my most favourite books in the Bible is the Ecclesiastes. Is it prose, poetry or as sociologists would say "sacred history". What ever it is, I think its a very modern thought in it. Advance philosophical thinking. That has always fascinated me.

Jeremiah, even in English translation sounds rhythmic to me.

Moab has been placid from youth,
settled in his lees.
Never emptied from vessel to vessel,
in exile never gone.
And so his taste has kept,
his fragrance has not changed.

But Jeremiah is not just a poem. It is a book of doctrine.

Recently in an exchange I found it quite surprising that some didn't know that the Boney M song they enjoyed all their life was directly taken from the Bible. By the rivers of Babylon, where we sat down,......

To me, the Bible is a library of fantastic authorship. All kinds of Genre's. This is why the Bible is amazing to me.

Why is it to you (if it is)?
To me the Bible books together are a "layer cake" of religious history written by holy men, some more holy than others. In places impossibly bad and in others good. " The Scriptures always have, and always will, reflect the intellectual, moral, and spiritual status of those who create them. Have you not noted that the concepts of Yahweh grow in beauty and glory as the prophets make their records from Samuel to Isaiah? And you should remember that the Scriptures are intended for religious instruction and spiritual guidance. They are not the works of either historians or philosophers."
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
To me the Bible books together are a "layer cake" of religious history written by holy men, some more holy than others. In places impossibly bad and in others good. " The Scriptures always have, and always will, reflect the intellectual, moral, and spiritual status of those who create them. Have you not noted that the concepts of Yahweh grow in beauty and glory as the prophets make their records from Samuel to Isaiah? And you should remember that the Scriptures are intended for religious instruction and spiritual guidance. They are not the works of either historians or philosophers."

OK.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
We don't really know how many authors have contributed to the Bible throughout history. But one thing for sure is the Bible has several types of books. Some scholars follow Genre criticism so heavily that some find it difficult to get out of it. It' almost intoxicating they say. I am thinking if I knew Hebrew I would see the beauty of the Tank's poetry but unfortunately I don't. One scholar said that the "The rhythmic and to some extent the syntactic aspects of the system will be invisible in translation".

One of my most favourite books in the Bible is the Ecclesiastes. Is it prose, poetry or as sociologists would say "sacred history". What ever it is, I think its a very modern thought in it. Advance philosophical thinking. That has always fascinated me.

Jeremiah, even in English translation sounds rhythmic to me.

Moab has been placid from youth,
settled in his lees.
Never emptied from vessel to vessel,
in exile never gone.
And so his taste has kept,
his fragrance has not changed.

But Jeremiah is not just a poem. It is a book of doctrine.

Recently in an exchange I found it quite surprising that some didn't know that the Boney M song they enjoyed all their life was directly taken from the Bible. By the rivers of Babylon, where we sat down,......

To me, the Bible is a library of fantastic authorship. All kinds of Genre's. This is why the Bible is amazing to me.

Why is it to you (if it is)?
Is it amazing? That is in the eye of the beholder. I find it terribly boring. Homer is vastly more amazing.

Even though I am a mathematician, I think I almost died of boredom while reading Numbers.

ciao

- viole
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Well, Bible is an amazing Book because it is inspired by God and I see many mysteries hidden in it. Thanks to Baha'u'llah for revealing its mysteries. Don't get me wrong, I am not fanatic.

To me it just looks like a complete desolation of the Bible as a whole just to preach your theology. Repeatedly doing this draws criticism.

Regardless, it was interesting to me, why and how would a man who never studied the Bible, used the same term as is in the Bible referring to His own revelation.

What is this exact term, whats the direct reference?
 
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