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Why is the eating of pork forbidden in Islam?

McBell

Unbound
well since Allah is the Knower of the future and the past, it would be logical to say that he knew very well why he forbade it
If you say so.

there may be a hadith or ore that speak why it is forbiden but have not beeninterested much on the topic to have come across such hadith, as a child though i have been told that there are hadith that say the pig is the most filthy animal.
What does this have to do with anything?
I mean, is this hadith the word of Allah?

but then again you don't believe in god, so if i was to argue with you about this it would be like trying to push a wall.
Nice cop out.

there is no reason to justify any order
Yet here you are trying to do just that.

the order has already been justified.
Then why are you and a few other Muslims here in this thread trying to justify Allah's do not eat pork command?

i nor any muslim do not need any justification or explanation why it is forbiden
yet again, here you are trying to use the forer effect to justify your gods command....

it is you in the other hand who are a witness to a great miracle
Really?
What miracle are you claiming was witnessed?
Hopefully you are not going to try and foist this "no eat pork" command as some sort of miracle in the Koran....?

and yet you make it look as though it is nothing.
If this "miracle" you speak of is nothing more than Allah saying "do not eat pork" then I have to say that you have an extremely sad qualifier for what is a miracle.
I mean, think about it, how many religions BEFORE Islam forbade pork?

Yeah some miracle...:rolleyes:

i personally do not know what to say to that.
To what?
To my having a much higher standard than you as to what makes a miracle?
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Strangely enough however some muslims seem to feel a desire to open up threads with explanations and justifications.
Like this thread here ;)

there is nothing to be justified, the thread is only to inform non muslims of the teachings of islam, muslims are obligated to teach people about islam and it's teachings and laws. you don't have to believe in any of this, you aren't a muslim, but this is an islamic perspective. so you must accept it as an islamic persepctive. nothing more. if you get asked about your personal oppinion then you can answer how ever you want but if you get asked about the islamic perspective then this is it.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
If you say so.

good asnwer. :clap

What does this have to do with anything?
I mean, is this hadith the word of Allah?

all the knowledge of islam that the prophet received was from Allah through Gabriel.
you do the math.

Nice cop out.

am only speaking the truth.

Yet here you are trying to do just that.

i think you don't know what the difference between justifying and telling is?
you are being told the islamic perspective on the matter which is also affirmed by science. so am i telling you this or am i making justifications?

Then why are you and a few other Muslims here in this thread trying to justify Allah's do not eat pork command?

no one is making any justification, you are given the islamic perspective on the matter, and that perspective is that Allah forbade the eating of pigs due to them being filthy animals

yet again, here you are trying to use the forer effect to justify your gods command....

i think the above answers are sufficent.

Really?
What miracle are you claiming was witnessed?
Hopefully you are not going to try and foist this "no eat pork" command as some sort of miracle in the Koran....?

no i'm not coz it would be pointless, like i said, i'd be pushing a brick wall

If this "miracle" you speak of is nothing more than Allah saying "do not eat pork" then I have to say that you have an extremely sad qualifier for what is a miracle.
I mean, think about it, how many religions BEFORE Islam forbade pork?

Yeah some miracle...:rolleyes:

before islam? see how can i argue with that? :facepalm:

To what?
To my having a much higher standard than you as to what makes a miracle?

no actually to the fact of being hit on the head with something and not noticing it. but hey, you have different standards than me right?
 

McBell

Unbound
good asnwer. :clap



all the knowledge of islam that the prophet received was from Allah through Gabriel.
you do the math.



am only speaking the truth.



i think you don't know what the difference between justifying and telling is?
you are being told the islamic perspective on the matter which is also affirmed by science. so am i telling you this or am i making justifications?



no one is making any justification, you are given the islamic perspective on the matter, and that perspective is that Allah forbade the eating of pigs due to them being filthy animals



i think the above answers are sufficent.



no i'm not coz it would be pointless, like i said, i'd be pushing a brick wall



before islam? see how can i argue with that? :facepalm:



no actually to the fact of being hit on the head with something and not noticing it. but hey, you have different standards than me right?
ROTFLMFAO

Just as I figured.
Well, no harm done.
I will merely go ask those at the local mosque.
They do not like the answers I get from the "Muslims" here anyway.
 

ThereIsNoSpoon

Active Member
there is nothing to be justified, the thread is only to inform non muslims of the teachings of islam,
If it were about that then the thread had the title "islam forbids eating pork" and the first post would be "because the quran says so".

But as we can see someone here seems to feel a need to give a justification. Thats why he named the thread "WHY is the eating ...." and brings in his first post several man made arguments.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
:facepalm:
and people wonder why Islam gets such a bad rap on the internet......:rolleyes:

if they are people like you then it is no surprise they would wonder about such a thing. you can keep wondering for as long as you feel a need mestemia. ;)
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
If it were about that then the thread had the title "islam forbids eating pork" and the first post would be "because the quran says so".

But as we can see someone here seems to feel a need to give a justification. Thats why he named the thread "WHY is the eating ...." and brings in his first post several man made arguments.

well almost everyone knows that muslims do not eat pork, such a title would be pointles, so the brother has said WHY it is forbiden, hence the explanation.
 

McBell

Unbound
if they are people like you then it is no surprise they would wonder about such a thing. you can keep wondering for as long as you feel a need mestemia. ;)
Do internet Muslims take some sort of special class to perfect their denial?

well almost everyone knows that muslims do not eat pork, such a title would be pointles, so the brother has said WHY it is forbiden, hence the explanation.
So why did Allah forbid the eating of pork?
Since you have the word of Allah at you disposal, please present from His Word why he forbade the eating of pork.

Oh wait...
You have already stated that Allah never once explained the WHY he forbade the eating of pork.
That means that you are merely guessing at which one of the many man made reasons should be presented as your gods reason.

Yet your proficiency in denial will not even allow you to understand this simplest of points.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Do internet Muslims take some sort of special class to perfect their denial?

internet muslims, wow nice word. will need to add it to my dictionary.

So why did Allah forbid the eating of pork?
Since you have the word of Allah at you disposal, please present from His Word why he forbade the eating of pork.

Oh wait...
You have already stated that Allah never once explained the WHY he forbade the eating of pork.
That means that you are merely guessing at which one of the many man made reasons should be presented as your gods reason.

Yet your proficiency in denial will not even allow you to understand this simplest of points.

Allah knows best why he forbade it, in islam anything that is harmful to us humans, Allah has forbiden it. i am sure you can finish the peices to the puzzle all by yourself now.

hmm, why do i doubt that you still don't get it? oh thats because you don't. too bad.

Mestemia, i have already told you about this matter, so if you want to accept it or not is up to you, but that is an islamic perspective and i won't reply no more since this is just a waste of time and discussion. i don't like to continue repeating the same stuff over and over again having answered your question. if you have something else to ask then i will answer that inshallah, otherwise, good day to you sir.
 

Zhakir

Peace&Tolerance
Zakir naik's views.... I lost my respect to him the Anti-Qur'an speaker. I should have never used his Offensive fake Point #6. Sorry everyone again!
 

Walkntune

Well-Known Member
wikipedia
Pigs are most commonly associated with eating not only their own feces, but those of other animals and humans. In parts of the third world, where villager dwellers excrete in the open, pigs are known to eat this excretia.


wikipedia
Pigs harbour a range of parasites and diseases that can be easily transmitted to humans. These include trichinosis, cysticercosis, and brucellosis. Very commonly, pigs are also known to host large concentrations of parasitic ascarid worms in their digestive tract. The presence of these diseases and parasites is one of the main reasons why pork meat should always be well cooked or cured before eating.

Bad effects of pork consumption
Pig's bodies contain many toxins, worms and latent diseases. Although some of these infestations are harbored in other animals, modern veterinarians say that pigs are far more predisposed to these illnesses than other animals. This could be because pigs like to scavenge and will eat any kind of food, including dead insects, worms, rotting carcasses, excreta (including their own), garbage, and other pigs.

Influenza (flu) is one of the most famous illnesses which pigs share with humans. This illness is harbored in the lungs of pigs during the summer months and tends to affect pigs and humans in the cooler months. Sausage contains bits of pigs' lungs, so those who eat pork sausage tend to suffer more during epidemics of influenza. Pig meat contains excessive quantities of histamine and imidazole compounds, which can lead to itching and inflammation; growth hormone, which promotes inflammation and growth; sulfur-containing mesenchymal mucus, which leads to swelling and deposits of mucus in tendons and cartilage, resulting in arthritis, rheumatism, etc. Sulfur helps cause firm human tendons and ligaments to be replaced by the pig's soft mesenchymal tissues, and degeneration of human cartilage. Eating pork can also lead to gallstones and obesity, probably due to its high cholesterol and saturated fat content. The pig is the main carrier of the taenia solium worm, which is found it its flesh. These tapeworms are found in human intestines with greater frequency in nations where pigs are eaten. This type of tapeworm can pass through the intestines and affect many other organs, and is incurable once it reaches beyond a certain stage. One in six people in the US and Canada has trichinosis from eating trichina worms, which are found in pork. Many people have no symptoms to warn them of this, and when they do, they resemble symptoms of many other illnesses. These worms are not noticed during meat inspections, nor does salting or smoking kill them. Few people cook the meat long enough to kill the trichinae. The rat (another scavenger) also harbors this disease. There are dozens of other worms, germs, diseases and bacteria which are commonly found in pigs, many of which are specific to the pig, or found in greater frequency in pigs.
 

McBell

Unbound
internet muslims, wow nice word. will need to add it to my dictionary.



Allah knows best why he forbade it, in islam anything that is harmful to us humans, Allah has forbiden it. i am sure you can finish the peices to the puzzle all by yourself now.

hmm, why do i doubt that you still don't get it? oh thats because you don't. too bad.

Mestemia, i have already told you about this matter, so if you want to accept it or not is up to you, but that is an islamic perspective and i won't reply no more since this is just a waste of time and discussion. i don't like to continue repeating the same stuff over and over again having answered your question. if you have something else to ask then i will answer that inshallah, otherwise, good day to you sir.
I just fail to understand why it is exactly that Allah's word is just not good enough for some Muslims.
 

Zhakir

Peace&Tolerance
Thank you for sharing Walkntune,I believe in that,and thats why it's prohibited by Allah (swt) as instructed in my religion. In my last post i was only critisizing the way Naik talks about the Americans and his Mobmay Indians, Most of pig eaters don't swap consorts,yes?
 
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*Anne*

Bliss Ninny
No. No swapping.



Well, I read the first few posts and the last few posts. Can't imagine what went on in between. :)
 
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