Why is the Right Wing Anti-Science?

[Subduction Zone]

Works for me as long as the rest of the scum go too. I can't wrap my head around people being okay impeaching trump for a crime Bidein committed. Either we are a nation of laws or we are a mess.

So sure convict trump he violated the constitution several times, As did Biden, Schemer, Peolisi, McConnell, Obama, etc. Do you want them all convicted for their crimes or is it just Trump who is uniquely bad?

You appear to be even more confused than usual. There is no evidence that Biden committed any crime.

Where and when did Biden violate the Constitution?

 

[Heyo]

What are you talking about? You can verify almost any science. Though if you do not have the education you may have some troubles.

What sciences do you have a problem with?

An insight I got from giving private lessons in maths is that the problem of the misunderstanding often lies deeper. Kids failing at quadratic equations often didn't understand fractions.
My guess is that @Truth in love doesn't have a problem with science but with logic.

 

[Polymath257]

Thanks for the very narrowed mined view on what I can do. Really just solved everything right there. LOL

I'm just saying what needs to happen in order to have an informed opinion.

But, if you don't care about being informed, you certainly have the right to ignore that advice. However, those who are informed will then ignore you.

 

[Polymath257]

It was not my major, but I studied it quite a bit. Not agreeing with some so called expert does not mean I don't understand the theory.

True. But the posts you have made in this forum show you don't understand the theory. If you did, you would not have asked about 'snakes to horses' macroevolution.

 

[Polymath257]

Well whatever the source we need to stop teaching garbage.

Like creationism and ID? Like the idea that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old?

I agree, such garbage should not be taught anywhere other than maybe a comparative mythology course.

 

[Polymath257]

I love science. I reject the random changes caused all species to be as they are notion.
I reject global climate alarmist nonsense.
I'm rather skeptical about out stellar predictions given the size of space and relativity small point of view through which we see it.

Non of this is rejecting science on the contrary it is scientific to want evidence.

And have you actually LOOKED at the evidence?

Have you done any comparative anatomy to learn how to tell when species are related? Genetics to understand what types of mutations are possible and what their effects can be? Paleontology to learn what the actual fossil evidence is and how to understand it in context?

I'm not sure what you mean by 'stellar predictions'. It seems a very strange phrase to use in a scientific context.

 

[Polymath257]

No I question things and want evidence.

How is this denying science?

Do you do the background work so you can understand the evidence given?

 

[Polymath257]

An insight I got from giving private lessons in maths is that the problem of the misunderstanding often lies deeper. Kids failing at quadratic equations often didn't understand fractions.
My guess is that @Truth in love doesn't have a problem with science but with logic.

To be fair, logic is hard for most people.

One of the hardest stages for a math undergraduate is learning how to do proofs and the biggest issue with them is basic logic. Pretty much every math student hits a wall at that stage of the game. It really is a right of passage. And this is for people *inclined* to math and logic.

Add to that having know the basics of various sciences, from chemistry to biology to physics and we have one of the places the US system of education has failed miserably. Large percentages of the US population can't say anything intelligent about DNA other than it is in the form of a helix. Large percentages of the US population still say the Earth is flat or that it is motionless. large percentages still think the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.

And it isn't limited to math (fractions, long division) and science.

Most people in the US can't place Ukraine on a map of the world. Most can't place Iraq or Turkey. Some can't even place their own state on a map.

 

[Secret Chief]

a right of passage

Same with basic spelling.

Sorry.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Same with basic spelling.

Sorry.

Took me more than a few seconds.

 

[Audie]

It was not my major, but I studied it quite a bit. Not agreeing with some so called expert does not mean I don't understand the theory.

"Disagreements" you bring up
such as "random changes caused all species
to be as they are notion" demonstrate
exactly that you don't know what you
are talking about.

Unless, of course it's worse than that and you
do get the basic ideas but are choosing to be dishonest.

Even you know that the beagle and the dalmatian
did not come about simply through random changes.
And are capable of seeing what that shows re.natural
selection.
So what is it you are doing, teaching, believing, or
spreading such garbage? All three?

 

[Polymath257]

Same with basic spelling.

Sorry.

Ugh....basic mistake.

 

[Audie]

I heard an interesting Freakonomics podcast about
some research....
Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia
The pro & anti sides were angry, each inferring some evil agenda.
It's interesting that the pro abortion side issued even more death
threats to Levitt than the anti-abortion side.
Anti-science attitudes can afflict anyone who sees a threat to their
deeply committed agenda, eh.

And they all day they " love," science and
extensively studied it, uphold the highest standards.

 

[Heyo]

To be fair, logic is hard for most people.

One of the hardest stages for a math undergraduate is learning how to do proofs and the biggest issue with them is basic logic. Pretty much every math student hits a wall at that stage of the game. It really is a right of passage. And this is for people *inclined* to math and logic.

Yep. And formal logic isn't taught before high school or even college. Teachers rely on our inherent sense of logic, which is unevenly distributed.

 

[Audie]

Well if that is not accurate to your point please clarify, that was a summary of what I got from your post.

It's what we get from yours.

 

[Audie]

True. But the posts you have made in this forum show you don't understand the theory. If you did, you would not have asked about 'snakes to horses' macroevolution.

" Snakes to horses" :

 

[Audie]

To be fair, logic is hard for most people.

One of the hardest stages for a math undergraduate is learning how to do proofs and the biggest issue with them is basic logic. Pretty much every math student hits a wall at that stage of the game. It really is a right of passage. And this is for people *inclined* to math and logic.

Add to that having know the basics of various sciences, from chemistry to biology to physics and we have one of the places the US system of education has failed miserably. Large percentages of the US population can't say anything intelligent about DNA other than it is in the form of a helix. Large percentages of the US population still say the Earth is flat or that it is motionless. large percentages still think the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.

And it isn't limited to math (fractions, long division) and science.

Most people in the US can't place Ukraine on a map of the world. Most can't place Iraq or Turkey. Some can't even place their own state on a map.

Maybe American students should be given
standardslized tests from Korea, Japan, Singapore
etc.

They would be shocked to the core to discover
they are so far behind.

Maybe some would take the next step and consider what are the long term implications
for the USA v the Asians who take
education seriously. ( USA is way out umbered)

 

[Polymath257]

Yep. And formal logic isn't taught before high school or even college. Teachers rely on our inherent sense of logic, which is unevenly distributed.

I was lucky. I started learning formal logic in 7th grade and by 8th grade was reading Russell+Whitehead's Principia Mathemtica.

But even truth tables seem to be beyond many people.

 

[Heyo]

I was lucky. I started learning formal logic in 7th grade and by 8th grade was reading Russell+Whitehead's Principia Mathemtica.

But even truth tables seem to be beyond many people.

Lucky indeed. I wasn't taught formal logic before university (CS). We did a lot of formal mathematical proofs, though.

 

[Audie]

Lucky indeed. I wasn't taught formal logic before university (CS). We did a lot of formal mathematical proofs, though.

Take the LSAT

It's a good measure of logic and stamina