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Why isn't evolution in the Bible?

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
:sarcastic

I think you missed something here. Bertrand Russel was an atheist, and in this quote he is basically saying that intelligent design is ridiculous. How does it show an ignorance of the theory of evolution?

Sorry. My bad.
I see how what I said could be misunderstood.
I have edited it to better reflect what I was trying to say rather clumsily. :sad:
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
This does not mean you lie to your creation and say "Oh yeah we came from two people." In the same way you don't lie to the second grader and say that adding is the simplest you can get.

So?

When and where did I ever say such a thing?

We freely stipulate that there are many, many non-literal passages in the Bible that are of solely spiritual significance.

Peace,

Bruce
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Sounds pretty Satanic to me. Something like the translation of abrahadabra or, "I will create as I speak".

@ The Sum of Awe

Evolution is in the bible, its on the surface right before your eyes, the label itself and the power it brings has led to an enormous division among Christians and all followers. I guess you can describe that as evolution.

Literally it speaks of evolution and its existence for near over 2,000 years old. People often look within something without realizing its external influences, which is mainly within us. This essentially describes those who lack metaphorical thought, which isn't really capable of describing the two sides for Man's thirst for labels and symbols.

Its extremely complex and abstract, and harsh to say simply, that communication efficiency is based off of the consistency levels of man and his development. Over years meanings and translations are lost and completely designed to become misleading, and influential. Some seek the more "open minded" path of distinguishing differences and similarities without bias, which essentially develops a strong metaphorical personality. Others are a bit more "conservative" with this association of labels and words, and tend to take things a bit more literally which can lead to things being very misleading, though of course both sides are capable of doing so.

If you research some of Carl Jung's personality types, I am sure you can connect the dots.

Really, the main point is that you can allow what influences you in what way, which requires some emotional dissolution, but not in a complete manifestation.

great post
 

gnostic

The Lost One
The Sum of Awe said:
If the Bible's story Genesis was about how God created mankind, why isn't Evolution in the Bible?

Just as the Bible doesn't contain anything about geometry, physics, chemistry, biology, medicine, earth science, geology, (real) astronomy, and the list go on.

The Bible, let alone Genesis, is not a book of science.

At best, it is a book of theology, and the Genesis contained the narrative myths. The Genesis comprised of the creation myth and the founding myth (ancestor or founding father myths of the people, like the Hebrews or Israelites, in this case).

Both of these myths are similar to other ancient non-Judaic myths of other civilisations and religions. And like other culture or civilisation of that time, there knowledge about how the world work was very limited, and somewhat primitive when you compare it to modern civilisation.

But getting back to evolution. Evolution is science not theology or a religion. And it would be out of place in the Bible, wouldn't you think?

But you are probably thinking that since some religious folks say that God would be all-knowing and all-powerful than God would know all about evolution so it would have been written into the Bible. There is no evidence of such divine and superior being except from hearsay by those people who claim to be "prophet" or "priest" of God.

And like I've said before about the Israelites being like other people of their time, with regards to learning and to their religion, I would not think they could possibly know about evolution. Even then, there understanding of the human anatomy were no better than anyone else at that time, but you expect them to know the process or mechanism of evolution?
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
But getting back to evolution. Evolution is science not theology or a religion. And it would be out of place in the Bible, wouldn't you think?
It would be awesome if it were in the bible but then it may not have been very popular. Everyone knows creatures just pop out of the ground, dirt or clay!!! Even the indians knew that, duh!!!:)
 

DinChild

Member
It would be awesome if it were in the bible but then it may not have been very popular. Everyone knows creatures just pop out of the ground, dirt or clay!!! Even the indians knew that, duh!!!:)

It's true. I'm 61.8% dirt. I went to a doctor and everything.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
idav said:
Everyone knows creatures just pop out of the ground, dirt or clay!!! Even the indians knew that, duh!

What?

Do you just dig a hole in the ground, drop a seed or 2, cover it wIth dirt, water it every now and then, then out sprout a fully-grown human being?

The Sumerians covered this in the Song Of The Hoe.

Or mould the shape of humans out of clay and put a living soul in the clay vessel?

The Sumerians had also covered this in Enki And Ninmah, and in the Eridu Genesis. The Akkadians-Babylonians adapt the Sumerian stories with Epic of Atrahasis, Enuma Elish and in the Epic of Gilagmesh. The Egyptians have their own myth, like that of Khnum.

And the Egyptians have a god that created the world and humans, simply by speaking the words in the myth of Ptah.

All the myths I have mentioned are older than the Hebrew version (Genesis) by centuries.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
What?

Do you just dig a hole in the ground, drop a seed or 2, cover it wIth dirt, water it every now and then, then out sprout a fully-grown human being?

The Sumerians covered this in the Song Of The Hoe.

Or mould the shape of humans out of clay and put a living soul in the clay vessel?

The Sumerians had also covered this in Enki And Ninmah, and in the Eridu Genesis. The Akkadians-Babylonians adapt the Sumerian stories with Epic of Atrahasis, Enuma Elish and in the Epic of Gilagmesh. The Egyptians have their own myth, like that of Khnum.

And the Egyptians have a god that created the world and humans, simply by speaking the words in the myth of Ptah.

All the myths I have mentioned are older than the Hebrew version (Genesis) by centuries.
If your saying people don't just pop out of the ground I agree. I also agree that the hebrews borrowed the ideas from sumerians and egyptions and that is interesting that you would mention the egyptians story of speaking existince into being. I only have a rudimentary understanding of a creation myths and I know that they are similar in many aspects.
 
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