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Why isnt Harris president right now? Biden is completely cooked in the brain. We have no real president.

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Well maybe if Trump wanders around too much and needs physical help off the stage then we might get to that point.
How would that be a sign of his cognitive decline, exactly?

I'm thinking more about his long rambling gibberish responses to questions that don't make any sense and his outright delusional claims about winning the 2020 election and Haitians eating peoples' pets. That's more in the "cognitive decline" arena than your example, I'd say.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Latest from the mindless puppet.


Is Harris afraid to take over , or will any early presidential run ruin her election chances if people really find out how she leads the country?

Clearly Biden is not running things.
And Trump is diagnosed as having Narcissistic Personality Disorder. 70,000 mental health professionals have signed a document stating he is dangerous and unfit to hold office. But I bet you'll vote for him anyhow.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
And Trump is diagnosed as having Narcissistic Personality Disorder. 70,000 mental health professionals have signed a document stating he is dangerous and unfit to hold office. But I bet you'll vote for him anyhow.
I'm pretty sure a real professional wouldn't offically diagnose just by looking at a TV screen or hearing some audio.

If you want to believe some quack diagnosis that's up to you.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I'm pretty sure a real professional wouldn't offically diagnose just by looking at a TV screen or hearing some audio.

If you want to believe some quack diagnosis that's up to you.
A few, mostly exaggerated, reports come out of Biden having difficulty with memory and awareness
"I think Biden should be removed from office because I personally think his behaviour indicates he is mentally unable to perform his duties as president."

70,000 qualified medical professionals sign a statement that Trump is dangerous and unfit to hold office
"Oh yeah, like anyone can make that conclusion based just on some random reports. Those 70,000 medical professionals must be quacks!"

Starting to detect a slight lack of self-awareness, here.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I'm pretty sure a real professional wouldn't offically diagnose just by looking at a TV screen or hearing some audio.

If you want to believe some quack diagnosis that's up to you.
They diagnosed him based on his real life behavior, which is so much more accurate than an interview.

Here is the writeup on this topic by Dr Nigel Barber in Psychology Today: "Does Trump Suffer Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
" According to DSM criteria, Donald Trump suffers from narcissistic personality disorder."

 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
But a diagnosis of "mindless puppet" from an article by the New York Post is sufficient to wonder why a President should be replaced?
There is a diagnosis? I never called it a diagnosis nor anyone else to my recollection except you.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
They diagnosed him based on his real life behavior, which is so much more accurate than an interview.

Here is the writeup on this topic by Dr Nigel Barber in Psychology Today: "Does Trump Suffer Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
" According to DSM criteria, Donald Trump suffers from narcissistic personality disorder."

Maybe read the article again. At the start.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I did that before posting the link. If there is something you want to draw my attention to, you'll have to quote it, since I really stink at reading your mind.
I would say the first paragraphs where they say they would be loath to give a diagnosis without first consulting in person.

It's hardly a mind reading effort here.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I would say the first paragraphs where they say they would be loath to give a diagnosis without first consulting in person.

It's hardly a mind reading effort here.
Again, if you want to draw my attention to something specific, you need to quote it. I can't just read several paragraphs and be able to figure out what you want me to see.

If for some reason you can't or won't communicate this, no problem. I'll just move on.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Again, if you want to draw my attention to something specific, you need to quote it. I can't just read several paragraphs and be able to figure out what you want me to see.

If for some reason you can't or won't communicate this, no problem. I'll just move on.
I'm very sorry you can't even read your links but I'll accommodate you.

It's literally the 2nd paragraph.

Quote....

"Professional psychiatrists and psychotherapists are loath to go on record saying that Trump has a psychiatric disorder on the premise that one cannot give a diagnosis without an office visit and most narcissists are quite unlikely to recognize that they have a problem and to schedule an appointment".
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I'm very sorry you can't even read your links but I'll accommodate you.

It's literally the 2nd paragraph.

Quote....

"Professional psychiatrists and psychotherapists are loath to go on record saying that Trump has a psychiatric disorder on the premise that one cannot give a diagnosis without an office visit and most narcissists are quite unlikely to recognize that they have a problem and to schedule an appointment".
And??? You seem to think this is significant, but it's not.

It's merely the Psychologist acknowledging that the kind of diagnosing he is doing is unusual, and so many psychiatrists and psychologists are reluctant to do it. It doesn't imply that he is WRONG for doing it.

I dealt with this in my original post, where I mentioned that diagnosing from actual behavior is more reliable than from an interview. IOW, while interviews may be the standard operating procedure, this in no way undermines the legitimacy of diagnosing Trump from his real life behavior.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
And??? You seem to think this is significant, but it's not.

It's merely the Psychologist acknowledging that the kind of diagnosing he is doing is unusual, and so many psychiatrists and psychologists are reluctant to do it. It doesn't imply that he is WRONG for doing it.

I dealt with this in my original post, where I mentioned that diagnosing from actual behavior is more reliable than from an interview. IOW, while interviews may be the standard operating procedure, this in no way undermines the legitimacy of diagnosing Trump from his real life behavior.
Of course it's significant. Very significant.

It's completly irresponsible and unprofessional for a degreed medical professional to diagnose a person who isn't a patient with that doctor.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It's completly irresponsible and unprofessional for a degreed medical professional to diagnose a person who isn't a patient with that doctor.
No, it's not. As I said, diagnosing from real life behavior is far more accurate than diagnosing from an interview.

Medical and mental health professionals have a responsibility to the American public to let us know when someone is unfit for office. If a Psychologist or Psychiatrist know that a candidate has a serious mental problem, and doesn't inform us, THAT is irresponsible and unprofessional.

But let's get down to the nitty gritty here. The real issue is not whether it is responsible to diagnose based on behavior. The real issue here is that it really boils your blood that Trump has been diagnosed by legitimate mental health professionals as having Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
My mom died at 80 and her brain had been mush for YEARS. My dad died at 80 and his brain was great. It varies a lot by person. You couldn't tell my mom anything though, she would argue with you indefinitely, call you a liar, etc. It was terrible. That's one reason I appreciate George Clooney for finally stepping up to the plate.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No, it's not. As I said, diagnosing from real life behavior is far more accurate than diagnosing from an interview.

Medical and mental health professionals have a responsibility to the American public to let us know when someone is unfit for office. If a Psychologist or Psychiatrist know that a candidate has a serious mental problem, and doesn't inform us, THAT is irresponsible and unprofessional.

But let's get down to the nitty gritty here. The real issue is not whether it is responsible to diagnose based on behavior. The real issue here is that it really boils your blood that Trump has been diagnosed by legitimate mental health professionals as having Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Yes it is irresponsible. I think a number of professional licenses need to be suspended and fined.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
There is a diagnosis? I never called it a diagnosis nor anyone else to my recollection except you.

Your suggestion is that Biden is mentally unable to perform the duties of the Presidency. This is being supported by an article from a biased source. Your assertion is a little more suspect than a professional recognizing the symptoms of a condition in a media figure.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Your suggestion is that Biden is mentally unable to perform the duties of the Presidency. This is being supported by an article from a biased source. Your assertion is a little more suspect than a professional recognizing the symptoms of a condition in a media figure.
It's called an opinion and I still think the man is mindless and cooked royally.

Of course the left thinks there is nothing wrong with him so they removed him from the ticket. Am I right with that 'logic'?
 
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