Why leftist revisionism is garbage, and even leftists should be against it.

[Falvlun]

Yes, I'd already indicated that it's not mainstream.

Grrrr. That's no fun!

I've called for the same.
I just don't agree with removing statues, which is more the silencing of history.

This stance doesn't really make sense. How is history being silenced by removing a statue from a place of honor, after it's been determined that the honor should no longer be bestowed?

I don't see statues as having some sacred right to always remain in their original place.

I don't disagree.

Awesome!

 

[Revoltingest]

This stance doesn't really make sense. How is history being silenced by removing a statue from a place of honor, after it's been determined that the honor should no longer be bestowed?

I don't see statues as having some sacred right to always remain in their original place.

I've been advocating changing it from a place of honor to a place of education by changing
the context, ie, additional displays about the person's ignominious place in history.
But that's just my preference.
Those are statues I never see in places I never go, so I'll survive if they're removed.

 

[The magical volleyball]

I've always felt that the quality of a person is reflected in the sum total of their actions, not merely one vice or disagreeable position. Tucker brings up exactly my point, in that we cannot place our views into the context of the past and end up with a valid equation. I ran into this video, and it really good at expressing the problem with the revisionism philosophy. Please view, and discuss.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1870088473255525

I wonder if the Germans had this same fight when deciding to remove statues of Hitler and Nazi symbols from their society.

 

[Notanumber]

These men have some interesting opinions on this subject (and others) (starting 5 minutes from the start of the podcast) - Antifa tearing down Confederate statues are as bad as ISIS!

 

[Falvlun]

I've been advocating changing it from a place of honor to a place of education by changing
the context, ie, additional displays about the person's ignominious place in history.
But that's just my preference.
Those are statues I never see in places I never go, so I'll survive if they're removed.

I was thinking too, for statues or monuments with greater historical or artistic merit, that an educational plaque or other context could work as well.

I think it was @esmith who mentioned Stone Mountain. I recoil at the thought of something that impressive and beautiful being destroyed.

 

[SkepticThinker]

These men have some interesting opinions on this subject (and others) (starting 5 minutes from the start of the podcast) - Antifa tearing down Confederate statues are as bad as ISIS!

Say the people using ISIS-style tactics where they drive cars into crowds of people.

 

[Notanumber]

Say the people using ISIS-style tactics where they drive cars into crowds of people.

It was only one person and I heard that he might have been trying to escape the area because he feared he might be lynched. We will find out more when he has appeared in court.

This is how Islam does it, but the left defends their actions.

Using vehicles as weapons of terror

 

[SkepticThinker]

It was only one person and I heard that he might have been trying to escape the area because he feared he might be lynched. We will find out more when he has appeared in court.

You're kidding, right?

This is how Islam does it, but the left defends their actions.

Using vehicles as weapons of terror

Nope.

 

[Revoltingest]

I was thinking too, for statues or monuments with greater historical or artistic merit, that an educational plaque or other context could work as well.

I think it was @esmith who mentioned Stone Mountain. I recoil at the thought of something that impressive and beautiful being destroyed.

I think it's hideous, but should be preserved.

 

[garden47]

Most of the statutes "honouring" Confederate military heroes were erected during the "Jim Crow" period of American history

They served as a visible act of defiance against the North, and sent a not so subtle message that "whites" were back in power in the South!

 

[tytlyf]

I think it's hideous, but should be preserved.

Depends if it's on tax payer land or not. If it's on private land then there is no issue.