And as usual you are selectively citing. What about the Upanishads that say "Then Brahman will that he shall be many, then Brahman thought, Brahman is the Lord, Worship Brahman the creator etc
Verily in the beginning, All this was Atman, one only, there was nothing else blinking whatsorever. He thought "Shal I send forth worlds" He send forth these worldsSummary of the words used to describe Brahman
Aitareya Upanishad
He the knower of Self, knows the highest home of Brahman, in which all is contained and shines brightly. The wise one without desiring happiness, worship that person, transcend this seed and are not born again.
Mundaka Upanishad
He who knows the Brahman attains the highest Brahman. On this the following verse is recorded: He who knows Brahman, which is the cause and not the effect, which is conscious which is without end, as hidden in the depths of the heart, in highest ether, enjoys all blessings, at one with omniscient Brahman
He wished, may I be many, may I grow forth. He brooded over himself, like a man performing penance. After he had thus brooded, he created all, whatever there is
Taitttriya Upanishad
But what is praised in the Upanishads is the highest Brahman, and in it there is the triad. The highest Brahman is the safe support, it is imperishable. The Brahma-students, when they have known what is within this world, are devoted and merges into Brahman, free from birth. The Lord supports all this together, the perishable and the imperishable, the developed and the undeveloped. The living Self, not being a lord, is bound, because he has to enjoy the fruits of his works, but when he has known God, he is freed from all fetters.
This whole universe is filled by this person, to whom there is nothing superior, from whom there is nothing different, than whom there is nothing smaller or larger, who stands alone, fixed like a tree in the sky. That which is beyond this world is without form and without suffering. They, who know it, become immortal, but others suffer in pain. That Bhagvat exists in the faces, the heads and necks of all, he swells in the cave of the heart of all beings, he is all pervading, therefore he is the omnipresent Shiva. That person is the great lord; he is the mover of existence; he possesses the purest power of reaching everything, he is light, he is undecaying
He is the creator and supporter of the gods, Rudra, the great seer, the lord of all, who saw Hiryangarbh(primordial womb of the universe), may he endow us with good thoughts. He who is the sovereign of gods, he in whom all the worlds rest, he who rules over all two footed and four-footed beings, to that god let us sacrifice our oblation
He being one, rules over all and everything, so that the universal germ ripens its nature, diversifies all nature that can be ripened and determines all qualities.
Some wise men deluded, speak of nature, and others of time as the cause for everything; but it is the greatness of the God by which this Brahma-wheel is made to turn. It is at the command of him who always covers this world, the knower, the time of time, who assumes qualities and all knowledge, it as his command, that this work, creation unfolds itself, which is called earth, water, fire, air and ether. He who, after he has done that work, rested again.
He is the One God, hidden in all beings, all pervading, the Self within all beings, watching over all works, dwelling in all beings, the witness, the perceiver, the only one, free from all qualities
Shvetasvatara Upanishad
"He thought"
"Worship that person"
"He created all"
"Conscious"
"Omnscient Lord"
"He is the One God"
"Rules over all beings"
"Omnipresent"
It will therefore become clear to the readers that "Brahman" was Sayak is passing off here as "ur-field" as the basis of all laws of physics, chemistry biology and consciousness etc, is none other than the Hindu concept of God. Not only is what Sayak presenting pseudoscience(dressing up Hindu god in fancy scientific words) it is pseudo-Hinduism too(misrepresenting the Hindu god as some abstract field)
Let me repeat
Verse 3.8.8 BHU by Yajnavalkya
sa hovāca, etadvai tadakśaraḥ, gārgi brāhmaṇā abhivadanti, asthūlamanaṇvahrasvamadīrghamalohitamasnehamacchāyamatamo'-vāyvanākāśamasaṅgamacakśuṣkamaśrotramavāgamano'-tejaskamaprāṇamamukhamamātramanantaramabāhyam, na tadaśnāti kiṃcana, na tadaśnāti kaścana
IT is neither coarse or fine; neither short or long; IT has neither blood or fat; IT is without shadow or darkness; IT is without air or space; IT is without contact, taste or smell; it is without sight or hearing; IT is without speech or mind; IT is without energy, life force or speech; IT is beyond measure; it has nothing within it or outside of it; it does not eat anything, nor does anyone eat it.
etasya vā akśarasya praśāsane gārgi sūryācandramasau vidhṛtau tiṣṭhataḥ, etasya vā akśarasya praśāsane gārgi dyāvāpṛthivyau vidhṛte tiṣṭhataḥ, etasya vā akśarasya praśāsane gārgi nimeṣā muhūrtā ahorātrāṇyardhamāsā māsā ṛtavaḥ saṃvatsarā iti vidhṛtāstiṣṭhanti; etasya vā akśarasya praśāsane gārgi prācyo'nyā nadyaḥ syandante śvetebhyaḥ parvatebhyaḥ, pratīcyo'nyāḥ, yāṃ yāṃ ca diśamanu; etasya vā akśarasya praśāsane gārgi dadato manuṣyāḥ praśaṃsanti, yajamānaṃ devāḥ, darvīṃ pitaro'nvāyattāḥ || 9 ||
9. Under the mighty rule of this Imperishable, O Gārgī, the sun and moon are held in their positions; under the mighty rule of this Imperishable, O Gārgī, heaven and earth maintain their positions; under the mighty rule of this Imperishable, O Gārgī, moments, Muhūrtas,[2]days and nights, fortnights, months, seasons and years are held in their respective places; under the mighty rule of this Imperishable, O Gārgī, some rivers flow eastward from the White Mountains, others flowing westward continue in that direction, [Page 520] and still others keep to their respective courses; under the mighty rule of this Imperishable, O Gārgī, men praise those that give, the gods depend on the sacrificer, and the Manes on independent offerings (Darvīhoma).[3]
yo vā etadakśaraṃ gārgyaviditvāsmiṃlloke juhoti yajate tapastapyate bahūni varṣasahasrāṇi, antavadevāsya tadbhavati; yo vā etadakśaraṃ gārgyaviditvāsmāllokātpraiti sa kṛpaṇaḥ; atha ya etadakśaraṃ gārgi viditvāsmāllokātpraiti sa brāhmaṇaḥ ॥ 10 ॥
10. He, O Gārgī, who in this world, without knowing this Immutable, offers oblations in the fire, performs sacrifices and undergoes austerities even for many thousand years, finds all such acts but perishable; he, O Gārgī, who departs from this world without knowing this Immutable, is miserable. But he, O Gārgī, who departs from this world after knowing this Immutable, is a knower of Brahman (Brahmana).
tadvā etadakśaraṃ gārgyadṛṣṭaṃ draṣṭṛ, aśrutaṃ śrottṛ, amataṃ mantṛ, avijñātaṃ vijñātṛ; nānyadato'sti draṣṭṛ, nānyadato'sti śrotṛ, nānyadato'sti mantṛ, nānyadato'sti vijñātṛ; etasminnu khalvakśare gārgyākāśa otaśca protaśceti || 11 ||
This is the imperishable Gargi, that sees but can't be seen; that hears but can't be heard; that thinks but can't be thought of; that perceives but can't be perceived. Besides this imperishable there is none that sees, none that hears, none that thinks and none that perceives. On this very Imperishable Gargi, is space woven back and forth.
You also forget that Brahman, in its plural manifestation as the Atman and Purusha in everything does think, do and know everything (all actions, all phenomena, all consciousness, all knowledge is ultimately Its manifestation), but IT itself is none of that. As Yajnavalkya tells Maitreyi,
For when there is a duality of some kind, then one can smell the other, one can hear the other, one can see the other, one can greet the other, and the one can perceive the other.
When, however, the Whole has become one's very self, then who is there for one to smell and by what means? Who is there for one to hear and by what means? Who is there for one to see and by what means? Who is there for one to see and by what means? Who is there for one to greet and by what means? Who is there for one to think and by what means? Who is there for one to perceive and by what means?By what means can one perceive the him by means of whom one perceives this whole world? Look - by what means can one perceive the perceiver?
I think the upanisad is quite clear as to who among the rishi-s has the most authoritative and victorious view of Brahman. I am going by the unambiguous pronouncement of Yajnavalkya on this matter. Every thing else is mere elaboration using metaphors, poetry etc. Various models to make it more easily understandable to students. Surely you understand the difference between a debate among Brahmajnani-s (BHU debate) and a simpler easy to digest version provided for the benefit of students (Chandayoga, Katha) or somewhat less enlightened Kshatriya (Arjuna in Gita).
In conclusion:- Spiritwarrior is like a person who, after seeing examples of flat world-maps made by cartographers for convenience of use, has mistakenly come to the conclusion that geologists think the world is indeed flat and is accusing everyone who says its a spherical world to be pseudo-scientist!
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