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Why Rich and Materialism Cannot Win

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It is illusion because the existence is a dream that is created by the God=Consciousness=Source. Again I am not talking about an angry man in the sky. God isn't an external thing like Santa Claus. It is your consciousness so it is you.
That's quite an ambitious claim.
How is it proven true?
We are creating/dreaming the universe within our consciousness but we have forgotten our true nature and now we are suffering (the Original Sin). In a way we got trapped in our own monstrous creation away from the God's glory.



Now things may be going well in one's life and when that happens one tends to think itself as strong and as some kind of genius but think about dying and getting reincarnated as a disabled person.



So in order to end suffering we have to connect with the source again. Although on the surface enjoying the material world is considered "healthy" if you got lost in the illusion you will get devoured by it.
More ambitious claims.
Evidence?
 

The Dreamer

Dreamer
That's quite an ambitious claim.
How is it proven true?

More ambitious claims.
Evidence?

The "scientific" evidence is within the quantum physics. There is no universe unless it is observed. We are creating and changing it as we observe it. This is also in line with most religions and ancient wisdom. In my previous post I quoted from the Bible and Quran but it is also in Dharmic religions and older teachings. It all comes together. The same Source manifested as different religions around the world.

But the most direct evidence would be to experience Enlightenment yourself.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The "scientific" evidence is within the quantum physics. There is no universe unless it is observed.
I never ran across that in any physics text.
Source?
We are creating and changing it as we observe it. This is also in line with most religions and ancient wisdom. In my previous post I quoted from the Bible and Quran but it is also in Dharmic religions and older teachings. It all comes together. The same Source manifested as different religions around the world.

But the most direct evidence would be to experience Enlightenment yourself.
Your illusions aren't supported
to any greater extent than mine.
The difference...
I make fewer claims.
 

The Dreamer

Dreamer
I never ran across that in any physics text.
Source?

Your illusions aren't supported
to any greater extent than mine.
The difference...
I make fewer claims.
You can search Bell's theorem and there are a lot of stuff on quantum physics and spirituality.

This isn't a science forum so I don't have to back everything I say with scientific evidence. I made a pretty strong case from a theological standpoint.

The experience of Enlightenment isn't just something I came up with but it is mentioned through out most religions. Also I am not just talking about abstract ideas. I actually came close to Enlightenment myself several times. Enlightenment is seeing through the illusion. You are either enlightened or you are in illusion. You yourself told "everyone is suffering" well it is because they cannot see the truth and got separated from the Source. Their suffering isn't the norm it is a symptom of their error.

The materialistic people look down on Enlightenment and say those who had these experiences were "high" (disconnected from reality) all the while taking pills or drugs trying to get high themselves to stop their suffering.
 
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