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Why science might be useless...

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Why are you assuming science will never help us liver forever? It can already cure some blindness, replace someone's hand, take us to other cosmic bodies, help us live an extra 40 years, etc. I see no reason to believe we won't someday be able to live forever.

Actually I can't cite the study off hand, but it may have been an interview on NPR, that said will all our advances the average lifespan hasn't increased that much at all over a long period of time.

I'm sure we can cherry pick parts of Africa that suggest lifespans are shorter, bu overall around the globe and over the last few centuries our ability to live longer has only increased a couple years according the that study.

I was actually quite surprised at hearing that.
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
In fact, science will make us so smart, but will never figure out how to help us live forever. It will be so angry it can't achieve this, it will try to convince us that this notion of eternity is evil and God concepts are distracting to real work men must do, science.
We know how to clone. If we could clone our own body, and have the ability to transfer our current thoughts, experiences and knowledge to our clone brain, then we could essentially live forever.
 
It is true without reason, logic, and science, we would probably not have toilets, bridges, vaccines, and a whole host of other things.
If we were to refuse all of this to remain faithful to a God we follow, to remain filthy, diseased and underdeveloped (remind you of any place ;)) and then die which then we receive eternal paradise, then science is utterly useless.

It is useless, arrogant, mischievous, a distraction, evil, and one of the most powerful forces that has taken peoples eyes away from God.

Let us go back to the stone age and live in the dirt, die young, and enjoy our God in peace and underdevelopment.

Any wisdom in this post? :D

Plenty of wisdom. It elucidates how Christianiaty and other such religions demean the human experience by relegating it to a insignificant period in the journey of an imaginary soul.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
It is true without reason, logic, and science, we would probably not have toilets, bridges, vaccines, and a whole host of other things.
If we were to refuse all of this to remain faithful to a God we follow, to remain filthy, diseased and underdeveloped (remind you of any place ;)) and then die which then we receive eternal paradise, then science is utterly useless.

It is useless, arrogant, mischievous, a distraction, evil, and one of the most powerful forces that has taken peoples eyes away from God.

Let us go back to the stone age and live in the dirt, die young, and enjoy our God in peace and underdevelopment.

Any wisdom in this post? :D

Or this would mean that you live your one short life in lieu of all the advancements science and technology have to offer to increase your quality of life, therefore wasting the one immeasurably lucky opportunity to experience anything at all.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Actually I can't cite the study off hand, but it may have been an interview on NPR, that said will all our advances the average lifespan hasn't increased that much at all over a long period of time.

I'm sure we can cherry pick parts of Africa that suggest lifespans are shorter, bu overall around the globe and over the last few centuries our ability to live longer has only increased a couple years according the that study.

I was actually quite surprised at hearing that.
Don't know what kind of a time span "long period of time" covers, but according to the following it appears there's been a significant increase going back quite a way.
210 YEAR SPAN
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100 YEAR SPAN
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78 YEAR SPAN
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44 YEAR SPAN
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zenzero

Its only a Label
Friends,
Science is mind matter and so limited as transcending the mind is religion.
Religion helps in understanding/realizing the oneness of existence whereas mind perceives in dualities only and so science will always remain limited.
Every thing that exists are there for some use and so everything is useful even poison, death etc. but understanding it is the key.

Love & rgds
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Actually I can't cite the study off hand, but it may have been an interview on NPR, that said will all our advances the average lifespan hasn't increased that much at all over a long period of time.

I'm sure we can cherry pick parts of Africa that suggest lifespans are shorter, bu overall around the globe and over the last few centuries our ability to live longer has only increased a couple years according the that study.

I was actually quite surprised at hearing that.

As Skwim pointed out, the average lifespan has changed dramatically, even in the last 200 years. But even regardless of that, we're making crazy advances nowadays. Research is being done with Jellyfish that could go a long way towards helping us become immortal. There is plenty of other research being done that could result in something like that. It could be that after having the average life expectancy go up 8 years over the course of a few decades, over the next few decades we see it shoot up 50-100 years.

I'm not saying this is going to happen, or that it's going to happen that quickly. I'm just saying that it's entirely possible. Ruling out the possibility of science making us immortal or practically immortal ignores the advances science makes.
 

Silver

Just maybe
So the ability of science to progress was put there for the same reasons why the dinosaurs bones were put there. To confuse and tempt!
 
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David M

Well-Known Member
Actually I can't cite the study off hand, but it may have been an interview on NPR, that said will all our advances the average lifespan hasn't increased that much at all over a long period of time.

I'm sure we can cherry pick parts of Africa that suggest lifespans are shorter, bu overall around the globe and over the last few centuries our ability to live longer has only increased a couple years according the that study.

I was actually quite surprised at hearing that.

I think you do need to cite a study because for the industrialised nations life expectancy has increased markedly compared to about 200 years ago (41 in 1841) to the 67.2 years it is now as a global average. That is the figure that is affected by science up until now as it takes into account mortality rates.

Yes, lifespan has not changed much because that is driven by the maximum age to which anyone lives and that is controlled by the aging process, some people have always lived pretty much as long as their body allowed. Some (a very few) Romans are known to have lived into their 90s.

Life expectancy is how long people live on average before they die and that has gone up a lot, in some countries it is double the value that it was in 1841.
 
Friends,
Science is mind matter and so limited as transcending the mind is religion.
Religion helps in understanding/realizing the oneness of existence whereas mind perceives in dualities only and so science will always remain limited.
Every thing that exists are there for some use and so everything is useful even poison, death etc. but understanding it is the key.

Love & rgds

Religion as a tool for exploring ourselves is limited by its metaphyical baggage. Unrestricted philosophy is a far better tool than religion in this respect as it grants more flexibility and frees us to explore other concepts which are otherwise neglected in favour of religious beliefs such as Gods existance or life after death.

Science will no doubt contribute to this as it helps us understand how our minds work and the origins of our morality.
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
Friends,
Science is mind matter and so limited as transcending the mind is religion.
Religion helps in understanding/realizing the oneness of existence whereas mind perceives in dualities only and so science will always remain limited.
Every thing that exists are there for some use and so everything is useful even poison, death etc. but understanding it is the key.

Love & rgds
Totally disagree. Religion has been around for eons and back in the day people had NO IDEA how human reproduction actually worked and blamed deformities, still born death, etc. to how they were religiously with their deity. They didn't know about genes, or predispositions to diseases, etc.
It's ignorant to think that people who don't have religion in their lives lack understanding on why life is and why we are here. Religion gives their "version", but it doesn't hold any more evidence than science does.
 

lunamoth

Will to love
Friends,
Science is mind matter and so limited as transcending the mind is religion.
Religion helps in understanding/realizing the oneness of existence whereas mind perceives in dualities only and so science will always remain limited.
Every thing that exists are there for some use and so everything is useful even poison, death etc. but understanding it is the key.

Love & rgds

Nice. :yes:


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