Why so many threads/posts about Muslims or Islam?

[Aquitaine]

Ok, so you can not build a sufficient argument so don't wan ta discussion. Fair enough, that's a common occurrence here.

No, I was looking forward to one. But after looking at your responses, it's clear you're wearing rose-tinted glasses with regards to your religion. To put it simply, I am not going to bother debating someone who actually believes Islamic society is more egalitarian than "western" secular society.

This is the sort of stuff one hears from those (usually white) overzealous islamic converts, born and raised in a western country. Out of curiosity. . . . .?

 

[Aquitaine]

First point, the original person I quoted said that Muslims did have to accept certain things in the UK.

If they want to be seen as compatible with social progressivism. . .

 

[Yerda]

You're understanding is exceptionally wrong. I won't go into the nuances of so called secular societies which have oppressed individuals on the basis of religion, colour, social status and so on, a simple history lesson via google would probably help.

Yes, even secular societies are imperfect. Unless you are willing to argue that secularism was the cause of the oppression then this isn't relevant to the point I, or you, made.

If that is what you are suggesting I am happy to look at your sources.

In terms of Sharia law, there is literally nothing stopping an individual from practicing religion other than Islam. You have simply been duped by a media that has fed lies into your brain.

Yes, they can practise another religion but if you lived in a society governed by Sharia how would you avoid having to follow the dictates of the Koran or Hadith? If the system of law is in itself Islamic then all are governed by Islam whether they choose Islam or not.

 

[First Baseman]

Yes, they can practise another religion but if you lived in a society governed by Sharia how would you avoid having to follow the dictates of the Koran or Hadith? If the system of law is in itself Islamic then all are governed by Islam whether they choose Islam or not.

Exactly. Some of the nations currently under Islamic Sharia law are jailing, torturing and killing (and even crucifying!) people of other than Islamic faith.

 

[Aquitaine]

Exactly. Some of the nations currently under Islamic Sharia law are jailing, torturing and killing (and even crucifying!) people of other than Islamic faith.

B-b-b-but they're not real Muslims, and they're not practicing true Sharia, our Sharia will be different!

 

[paarsurrey]

Hi paarsurrey, But isn't it the case that most of the world's Muslims rely on Imams' interpretations of scripture for their understanding?

They don't have any authority from Quran/Islam/Muhammad, they are just doing politics.
Regards

 

[YmirGF]

They don't have any authority from Quran/Islam/Muhammad, they are just doing politics.
Regards

That is simply not true, paarsurrey. Their followers give them all the authority they need and will often cede to their perspectives as you do with your illustrious leader.

 

[paarsurrey]

That is simply not true, paarsurrey. Their followers give them all the authority they need and will often cede to their perspectives as you do with your illustrious leader.

True authority in religion comes from G-d or His prophet.
Regards

 

[YmirGF]

True authority in religion comes from G-d or His prophet.
Regards

Oh, I see, now you are rambling on about supposedly "true" authority. No doubt the leader of your infinitesimally small sect, the Amadhiya, is a "true" authority.

 

[Shad]

If they want to be seen as compatible with social progressivism. . .

Everyone must accept the law of land if they become a citizen, or even a tourist, of a nation not following their cultural and/or religious norms which govern said society. Many people are unaware of this then cry foul due to their own limited awareness and ignorance.

 

[Aquitaine]

Everyone must accept the law of land if they become a citizen, or even a tourist, of a nation not following their cultural and/or religious norms which govern said society. Many people are unaware of this then cry foul due to their own limited awareness and ignorance.

tru dat

 

[Shad]

tru dat

I was reminded of some trips across the board to America in which no one mentioned anything about laws, customs, etc. There is an unspoken assumption that people realize that laws of land X maybe not be the same as land Y and all that goes with it. Yet this assumption is shown to be false when I see people attempt to bring weapons across the border that are legal in say Texas but not in Canada. These people hold some sort of assumption that either the laws are similar or that one's rights in nation X can be carried over to nation Y.

 

[Aquitaine]

I was reminded of some trips across the board to America in which no one mentioned anything about laws, customs, etc. There is an unspoken assumption that people realize that laws of land X maybe not be the same as land Y and all that goes with it. Yet this assumption is shown to be false when I see people attempt to bring weapons across the border that are legal in say Texas but not in Canada. These people hold some sort of assumption that either the laws are similar or that one's rights in nation X can be carried over to nation Y.

It can get especially sticky when some of these "laws" are religiously inspired. I know of one poster on RF who openly admits to wanting to break certain laws of his country because the Sharia is above the man-made laws of his current country of residence.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

In terms of Sharia law, there is literally nothing stopping an individual from practicing religion other than Islam. You have simply been duped by a media that has fed lies into your brain.

Aside from the fact you can be punished for leaving Islam with anything up to and including death.

 

[paarsurrey]

The clergy are not part of Islam/Quran/Muhammad that they can make any Sharia outside of Quran.
Regards

 

[lewisnotmiller]

The clergy are not part of Islam/Quran/Muhammad that they can make any Sharia outside of Quran.
Regards

I understand your views, but you can't expect the world to see Islam as Quranism. Equally, when the world discusses Christianity, they are not generally talking about sola scriptura.