Why Son of Man?

[Dimi95]

Jesus was taught by God: The Father. There is no better teacher than He for all He teaches is truth:

• “It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’…”
• ‘And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.’ (Luke 2:52)
• So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but [ I ] speak just what the Father has taught me.” (John 8:28) … and the Father speaks only truth!!

‘The Last Adam’ means ‘The Last Human Being to be created wholly by the Spirit of God: Sinless and righteous and thus Holy’.

So Jesus is both the SECOND and THE LAST ‘Adam’:

• “So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.” (1 Cor 15:45)
• “The first man [Adam] was of the dust of the earth; the second man [Adam] is of heaven.” (1 Cor 15:47)

One Adam sinned and brought Death to all mankind… The Second/Last Adam died to destroy the death that was brought Bible Hub the first Adam… THE SECOND/LAST ADAM was THE MAN, Jesus Christ.

again , False.
Corinthians 11:3
"But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God."

Woman was created from man , so woman is in mankind.

-By "head of every man is Christ" it means mind - knowledge and life,guidence threw God.

-By "head of a wife is her husbund" refers to:
The Parable of the Ten Virgins
Matthew 25:1-13
"At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.Five of them were foolish and five were wise.The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them.The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
“At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’
“Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps.The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’
“‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’
“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
“Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’
“But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’
“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour."

*In John 2-4 Jesus is described as a bridegroom by means of narratival (John 2:1-11; 4:1-42) and metaphorical (John 3:28-30) devices.

By "head of Christ is God" refers to knowing God threw Christ.

“My Father has entrusted everything to me. No one truly knows the Son except the Father, and no one truly knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”

*To entrust is to give someone a responsibility you assume he/she will fullfill.To entrust is to let someone take care of something for you because you believe she will protect it.

Here is a link to the 19 verses refered to Jesus as the Judge

19 Bible verses about Jesus Christ, Judge

A topical Bible which shows the most relevant Bible verse for each topic

bible.knowing-jesus.com

Christ is God.
Mathematically in counting order it's incorrect to go from 1 to 3 , if you were paying atention you would notice what i wrote about Abel in my previous reply to @dymbh.

 

[Soapy]

again , False.
Corinthians 11:3
"But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God."

Christ is God.
Mathematically in counting order it's incorrect to go from 1 to 3 , if you were paying atention you would notice what i wrote about Abel in my previous reply to @dymbh.

Ha ha ha… that’s a good one … that’s a real good one!!!

• Jesus is the head of man … and God is the head of Jesus …. Therefore Jesus is God??

Ah! Now I see why you think truth is relative!!!
The Man, Jesus Christ, is almighty God…

The man, Jesus Christ, who is in Heaven and will be coming with God’s angels - even though he is God… !!?

You write a load of nonsense!! Why do you suppose I’m supposed to have read the rubbish that you wrote to someone else.

 

[Dimi95]

Ha ha ha… that’s a good one … that’s a real good one!!!

• Jesus is the head of man … and God is the head of Jesus …. Therefore Jesus is God??

Ah! Now I see why you think truth is relative!!!
The Man, Jesus Christ, is almighty God…

The man, Jesus Christ, who is in Heaven and will be coming with God’s angels - even though he is God… !!?

You write a load of nonsense!! Why do you suppose I’m supposed to have read the rubbish that you wrote to someone else.

I have edited my reply while you responded

 

[Dimi95]

Ha ha ha… that’s a good one … that’s a real good one!!!

• Jesus is the head of man … and God is the head of Jesus …. Therefore Jesus is God??

Ah! Now I see why you think truth is relative!!!
The Man, Jesus Christ, is almighty God…

The man, Jesus Christ, who is in Heaven and will be coming with God’s angels - even though he is God… !!?

You write a load of nonsense!! Why do you suppose I’m supposed to have read the rubbish that you wrote to someone else.

You don't study enough pattern , that's why it's all simple for you..

Have you ever heard of Reverse psychology?

According to Cambridge English Dictionary, reverse psychology is “a method of trying to make someone do what you want by asking them to do the opposite and expecting them to disagree with you.” Reverse psychology is a strategy for getting what you want by demanding or suggesting what you don't want.

So Almighty God,Jesus Christ is the Man?

Educate yourself:

God's Great Reversal: Key to the Gospel of Luke | Franciscan Media

The Gospel of Luke, read at Mass on most Sundays this year, affirms that God values each of us regardless of age, wealth, health or gender.

www.franciscanmedia.org

 

[InChrist]

Actually, that is not accurate.

I think it’s accurate, but you’re welcome to share your thoughts.
Here are some further thoughts/points I agree with:

“What is interesting about the way Jesus uses the term is that he does not use it in a general form but as a specific description of who he is. He is not just a son of man, which is generally pointing to our humanity. He is the Son of Man, which is specific. What is also interesting is that he uses the term Son of Man in the same breath or statement that he refers to his deity. He does it when he forgives sin because only God can forgive sin. He does it when he asks the blind man that he healed to believe in him because you cannot put your faith in anyone else but God. So this dichotomy exists between the use of the term Son of Man and the reality of Jesus' divine nature. What we still must consider is the why. Why is this term Son of Man so important that Jesus would use it to describe himself? I believe there are three critical reasons why this definition of Jesus is so important”….

1. It Is a Reminder of His Humanity
2. It Allowed Him to Be Our Substitute
3. It Allowed Him to Be the Last Adam

Who Is the Son of Man in the Bible?

One man, the Son of Man, Jesus, is the bridge between the Father and all humanity. There are so many titles that have been given to Jesus in the Bible. Each one of them reveals another aspect of Jesus' character and helps us better understand who...

www.crosswalk.com

 

[Soapy]

I have edited my reply while you responded

“What I have said, I have said”

“What I have written [about you], I have written [about you]”

 

[Soapy]

I think it’s accurate, but you’re welcome to share your thoughts.
Here are some further thoughts/points I agree with:

“What is interesting about the way Jesus uses the term is that he does not use it in a general form but as a specific description of who he is. He is not just a son of man, which is generally pointing to our humanity. He is the Son of Man, which is specific. What is also interesting is that he uses the term Son of Man in the same breath or statement that he refers to his deity. He does it when he forgives sin because only God can forgive sin. He does it when he asks the blind man that he healed to believe in him because you cannot put your faith in anyone else but God. So this dichotomy exists between the use of the term Son of Man and the reality of Jesus' divine nature. What we still must consider is the why. Why is this term Son of Man so important that Jesus would use it to describe himself? I believe there are three critical reasons why this definition of Jesus is so important”….

1. It Is a Reminder of His Humanity
2. It Allowed Him to Be Our Substitute
3. It Allowed Him to Be the Last Adam

Who Is the Son of Man in the Bible?

One man, the Son of Man, Jesus, is the bridge between the Father and all humanity. There are so many titles that have been given to Jesus in the Bible. Each one of them reveals another aspect of Jesus' character and helps us better understand who...

www.crosswalk.com

Again, God called to Ezekiel calling him, ‘Son of Man’

In your belief, please explain this ‘Son of Man’.

 

[metis]

I think it’s accurate, but you’re welcome to share your thoughts.
Here are some further thoughts/points I agree with:

“What is interesting about the way Jesus uses the term is that he does not use it in a general form but as a specific description of who he is. He is not just a son of man, which is generally pointing to our humanity. He is the Son of Man, which is specific. What is also interesting is that he uses the term Son of Man in the same breath or statement that he refers to his deity. He does it when he forgives sin because only God can forgive sin. He does it when he asks the blind man that he healed to believe in him because you cannot put your faith in anyone else but God. So this dichotomy exists between the use of the term Son of Man and the reality of Jesus' divine nature. What we still must consider is the why. Why is this term Son of Man so important that Jesus would use it to describe himself? I believe there are three critical reasons why this definition of Jesus is so important”….

1. It Is a Reminder of His Humanity
2. It Allowed Him to Be Our Substitute
3. It Allowed Him to Be the Last Adam

Who Is the Son of Man in the Bible?

One man, the Son of Man, Jesus, is the bridge between the Father and all humanity. There are so many titles that have been given to Jesus in the Bible. Each one of them reveals another aspect of Jesus' character and helps us better understand who...

www.crosswalk.com

Again, "son of man" precedes Jesus, thus is a more generic reference.

 

[Dimi95]

Again, "son of man" precedes Jesus, thus is a more generic reference.

John 8:58
"Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."

Greek :

"εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὁ Ἰησοῦς· Ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν, πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί."

I agree about generic reference , but i don't think "Son of Man" precedes Jesus literally.

 

[Will Due]

Jesus , Son of Man , why?
Why specifically "Son of Man" would be my question.
Where does that come from , to what purpose to be presented like that?

Perhaps since Jesus was the incarnate Creator, he wanted to emphasize that he was living a life that was 100% human. Experiencing everything that each and every one of us must experience completely. From beginning to end.

 

[Ebionite]

Why specifically "Son of Man" would be my question.

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Matthew 4:17

El [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

 

[metis]

John 8:58
"Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."

Greek :

"εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὁ Ἰησοῦς· Ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν, πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί."

I agree about generic reference , but i don't think "Son of Man" precedes Jesus literally.

That's not the point, as what you're doing is applying an interpretation of "son of man" as used in Christian theology, not Jewish theology.

 

[Dimi95]

That's not the point, as what you're doing is applying an interpretation of "son of man" as used in Christian theology, not Jewish theology.

Don't assume please , my understanding of "Son of Man" is not in any Christian interpretation.
But that does not mean that i am less Christian because of that.

I see the orign of the term "Son of Man" in Abel , the first who did not sin , but died[unwillingly] or was killed, because he put life to death(fat portions of the newborns of his flock), and gave it as offering.
He was killed by his brother

So Jesus came as one without sin , and died willingly(was killed , crucified) and gave that as offering to salvation.
Hy was killed by his own.

What did Jesus say about his own death?
The second warning appears in Mark 9:30–32 (and also in Matthew 17:22–23) as follows: He said to them, "The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise." But they did not understand what he meant and were afraid to ask him about it.

 

[Ebionite]

I see the orign of the term "Son of Man" in Abel , the first who did not sin , but died[unwillingly] or was killed, because he put life to death(fat portions of the newborns of his flock), and gave it as offering.

Abel didn't kill the animals, just like Abraham was not told to kill the animals in Genesis 15:9.

What did Jesus say about his own death?

"Son of man" isn't an exclusive title. The prophetic texts that relate to the crucifixion are not about the righteous servant of Isaiah 53 and Psalm 35.

 

[Dimi95]

Abel didn't kill the animals, just like Abraham was not told to kill the animals in Genesis 15:9.

But he offered them and was killed for that.Even worse..
And he was not instructed to offer , so Abel did that on his own.
And God chose him over Cain

"Son of man" isn't an exclusive title. The prophetic texts that relate to the crucifixion are not about the righteous servant of Isaiah 53 and Psalm 35.

It's exclusive for Jesus as i showed in the previous answer.

J. Barton Payne, has found as many as 574 verses in the Old Testament that somehow point to or describe or reference the coming Messiah.
Alfred Edersheim found 456 Old Testament verses referring to the Messiah or His times. Conservatively, Jesus fulfilled at least 300 prophecies in His earthly ministry.

 

[Ebionite]

But he offered them and was killed for that.Even worse..

The death of Abel had nothing to do with the Christian doctrine of blood sacrifice.

It's exclusive for Jesus as i showed in the previous answer.

No, Judas repented.

Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
Matthew 27:3

El [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

Judas was the crucified man:

They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, [being] mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored [that] which I took not away.
Psalms 69:4

 

[Dimi95]

The death of Abel had nothing to do with the Christian doctrine of blood sacrifice.


No, Judas repented.

Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
Matthew 27:3

El [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

Judas was the crucified man:

They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, [being] mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored [that] which I took not away.
Psalms 69:4

I take guidence only from the Bible.
The Bible is the eternal word of God , the doctorine can be upgraded.
We are all equal in God's eyes.


Did Jesus ever repent?
Find me a verse except the baptizing, i want to see it.
Just take notes of the baptizing..

Matthew 3:13-17
Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John.But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?”Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented.As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

Judas was never the crucified man.

Jesus restored life , life that he never took away!

 

[The Hammer]

Jesus , Son of Man , why?
Why specifically "Son of Man" would be my question.
Where does that come from , to what purpose to be presented like that?

It was a play on the very common theme at the time of the Rebirth of the Sun (Son).

 

[Dimi95]

The death of Abel had nothing to do with the Christian doctrine of blood sacrifice.

In countrary , i think that it has to do with what God said to Cain in Genesis 4:10

The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground

And i want to adress this separately , i think that no one cares for Abel , no one even finds a reason in the first death(biblically) in humankind - Abel.
No one cares that he didn't deserve to die.
Nobody cares about Abel , except God!

 

[Ebionite]

I take guidence only from the Bible.

What this typically means is that you only take guidance from the traditional interpretation of the Bible.

The Bible is the eternal word of God , the doctorine can be upgraded.

No, it's the canonical text of the the Christian Church. The true word is spoken, not written.

As for me, this [is] my covenant with them, saith YHWH; My spirit that [is] upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith YHWH, from henceforth and for ever.
Isaiah 59:21

Did Jesus ever repent?

That implies an argument from absence.

Judas was never the crucified man.

Would a righteous servant describe himself as a worm and acknowledge his sin?

Jesus restored life , life that he never took away!

That's not part of the prophetic text. It was about knowledge.

He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Isaiah 53:11

The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground

It was simple murder, not a sacrifice.